Offseason thread vol 9 - RUN IT BYK

[AirP.]

after refusing to do that for now 4 offseasons since acquiring Butler.

The tax is expected to be 162 million.
Miami has to have a minimum of 14 players on your active roster.
Going over the tax means no extra money ~10 million for being a non tax payer.
Is the tax 1:1 dollars for every dollar over? I'm not sure where it starts at.

If we keep everyone, we are $15.4 over cap and a $30m bill with 10 players.

Golden State pays tax every season for a while now. Miami can do it once, but if we don't get a chip or at least look competitive, Miami can waive Lowry and stretch him at $9.8 per 3 seasons. With Oladipo certainly opting out (unless he's injured again), Miami cuts payroll by $38m. Dedmon is also not guaranteed, but he's a bargain at his price. Likewise Haysmith. It's horrid, but this season is probably our best chance with Jimmy, and it's worth a lean year.

They could, but why not before now, they made the finals 3 seasons ago, got to game 7 of the Conference finals last year, so why not then? It would have been nice to go into the season with Tucker at PF and even signed at 3 years you could trade him as an expiring that 3rd year. I guess if they were a strong contender they would, but Miami isn't that you need an MVP caliber player to do that, and they don't have one (a top 5 if not top 3 player in the NBA).

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after refusing to do that for now 4 offseasons since acquiring Butler.

The tax is expected to be 162 million.
Miami has to have a minimum of 14 players on your active roster.
Going over the tax means no extra money ~10 million for being a non tax payer.
Is the tax 1:1 dollars for every dollar over? I'm not sure where it starts at.

If we keep everyone, we are $15.4 over cap and a $30m bill with 10 players.

Golden State pays tax every season for a while now. Miami can do it once, but if we don't get a chip or at least look competitive, Miami can waive Lowry and stretch him at $9.8 per 3 seasons. With Oladipo certainly opting out (unless he's injured again), Miami cuts payroll by $38m. Dedmon is also not guaranteed, but he's a bargain at his price. Likewise Haysmith. It's horrid, but this season is probably our best chance with Jimmy, and it's worth a lean year.

They could, but why not before now, they made the finals 3 seasons ago, got to game 7 of the Conference finals last year, so why not then? It would have been nice to go into the season with Tucker at PF and even signed at 3 years you could trade him as an expiring that 3rd year.

Were'nt we just one made shot away from the NBA Finals?

It's sad to lose PJ Tucker, but Miami made a fair offer for him. He left the team to play for the 76ers. Before he left the Bucks to play for us. There is a pattern. Let him go.

I'm going to cheer for the players who stayed.

[AirP.]

I'm going to cheer for the players who stayed.

You mean, you're going to cheer for the players Miami decided to pay. Weird how a top player for Miami last year wasn't worth what Philly gave him, the owner just wouldn't be making as much money this year. Deciding to stay under the tax vs keep their team intact isn't what I expected Miami to continue to do as deep as they had been getting in the playoffs. Sadly, the NBA has given big money teams a real advantage of retaining talent while going over the tax that they can afford.

Were'nt we just one made shot away from the NBA Finals?

Which makes not going into the tax even worse, that close but... the tax!

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Carnival Cruise stock is tanking, Micky doesn’t want that tax bill going forward lol

[gom]

I'm going to cheer for the players who stayed.

You mean, you're going to cheer for the players Miami decided to pay. Weird how a top player for Miami last year wasn't worth what Philly gave him, the owner just wouldn't be making as much money this year. Deciding to stay under the tax vs keep their team intact isn't what I expected Miami to continue to do as deep as they had been getting in the playoffs. Sadly, the NBA has given big money teams a real advantage of retaining talent while going over the tax that they can afford.

Were'nt we just one made shot away from the NBA Finals?

Which makes not going into the tax even worse, that close but... the tax!

PJ opted out and took the 76ers offer. It's a free market. Had Miami given the MLE to Tucker, we would have lost Martin. Martin is a better player now and (especially) two years from now.

https://heavy.com/sports/miami-heat/pj-tucker-contract-offer/

Miami Herald’s Anthony Chiang reported on Wednesday, June 30 that the Heat’s “front office has drawn a line” as to how far they’ll go to keep Tucker:

According to multiple sources close to the situation, the Heat is willing to offer Tucker a fully guaranteed contract for the maximum-allowable three years using the non-Bird exception. The deal would include a starting salary of $8.4 million and be worth about $26.5 million through three seasons. But the Heat is not currently willing to use the $10.5 million non-taxpayer midlevel exception to re-sign Tucker, according to sources, which would allow Miami to offer him a three-year contract worth about $33 million.

Chiang also clarified that the Heat’s not limiting themselves with Tucker’s offer merely to avoid the luxury tax. “The punitive repeater tax is not a looming threat for the franchise right now,” he tweeted. “It’s the fact that the hard cap would limit the team’s flexibility in the trade market during the NBA’s 2022-23 calendar.”

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I really hope shooting a 3 translate into more shot attempts by Bam. Watch the first half this morning, I wouldn't read into anything about how the Heat will play or how Yurt and Bam will play off each other. That was a classic 1st preseason game where plays didn't matter, they were just unorganized running

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

I really hope shooting a 3 translate into more shot attempts by Bam. Watch the first half this morning, I wouldn't read into anything about how the Heat will play or how Yurt and Bam will play off each other. That was a classic 1st preseason game where plays didn't matter, they were just unorganized running

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Give me 17 shots. 1/3 from 3 a game and 8/14 from 2 is 19 points without factoring in free throws, he’s going to shoot anywhere from 7-8 free throws a game on this increased aggressiveness

[3ammy3uck3ts]

We’ll Maxey and Mitchell have both looked amazing so far.

Our young core should be Bam Maxey and Herro right now smh

[IceColdCubano]

I really hope shooting a 3 translate into more shot attempts by Bam. Watch the first half this morning, I wouldn't read into anything about how the Heat will play or how Yurt and Bam will play off each other. That was a classic 1st preseason game where plays didn't matter, they were just unorganized running

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Give me 17 shots. 1/3 from 3 a game and 8/14 from 2 is 19 points without factoring in free throws, he’s going to shoot anywhere from 7-8 free throws a game on this increased aggressiveness

Once his 3pt shots starts hitting and teams start to play him close, his free throw rate is gonna sky rocket. He will be blowing by his defender alot more often, and he is a great passer so its gonna open up the court for the rest of the team.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I really hope shooting a 3 translate into more shot attempts by Bam. Watch the first half this morning, I wouldn't read into anything about how the Heat will play or how Yurt and Bam will play off each other. That was a classic 1st preseason game where plays didn't matter, they were just unorganized running

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Give me 17 shots. 1/3 from 3 a game and 8/14 from 2 is 19 points without factoring in free throws, he’s going to shoot anywhere from 7-8 free throws a game on this increased aggressiveness

Once his 3pt shots starts hitting and teams start to play him close, his free throw rate is gonna sky rocket. He will be blowing by his defender alot more often, and he is a great passer so its gonna open up the court for the rest of the team.

The more I think about it the more I’m starting to think 23-25 a night is very doable

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In Donkey's defense, Poole does seem like the type of dude who'll get on a high horse after being carried to a chip. Lol

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In Donkey's defense, Poole does seem like the type of dude who'll get on a high horse after being carried to a chip. Lol

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Punches and altercation in practice? #heatculture

[AirP.]

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In Donkey's defense, Poole does seem like the type of dude who'll get on a high horse after being carried to a chip. Lol

Draymond has a player's option next year; he's looking for an extension while Poole is looking for big money himself, at some point Golden State can't keep paying everyone, especially a soon to be 33-year-old defensive specialist.

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In Donkey's defense, Poole does seem like the type of dude who'll get on a high horse after being carried to a chip. Lol

Draymond has a player's option next year; he's looking for an extension while Poole is looking for big money himself, at some point Golden State can't keep paying everyone, especially a soon to be 33-year-old defensive specialist.

Sounds like Draymond was talking down to Poole trying to humble him because he really hasn't earned bragging rights as of yet, and like the comment of him being on a high horse perhaps too much swag with little substance and then you have Draymond on the other end also feeling a bit afraid that the young scoring guard will most likely get the big payday before he will because, well Draymond is on his way down, and Poole on his way up. Ownership will always do what's best for the team and perhaps cut him out on getting a payday himself. At some point something is gonna give, if Poole gets his extension first you could see a trade happening for Draymond heading somewhere else.

[AirP.]

In Donkey's defense, Poole does seem like the type of dude who'll get on a high horse after being carried to a chip. Lol

Draymond has a player's option next year; he's looking for an extension while Poole is looking for big money himself, at some point Golden State can't keep paying everyone, especially a soon to be 33-year-old defensive specialist.

Sounds like Draymond was talking down to Poole trying to humble him because he really hasn't earned bragging rights as of yet, and like the comment of him being on a high horse perhaps too much swag with little substance and then you have Draymond on the other end also feeling a bit afraid that the young scoring guard will most likely get the big payday before he will because, well Draymond is on his way down, and Poole on his way up. Ownership will always do what's best for the team and perhaps cut him out on getting a payday himself. At some point something is gonna give, if Poole gets his extension first you could see a trade happening for Draymond heading somewhere else.

Right, Draymond has been the workhorse for Golden State, but his time is about up there, and I think he knows that but that doesn't mean it's 100% right. I'm sure he's trying to get an extension now (where he declines next year's option), but Golden State expects Wiseman and Kaminga to basically take over his defensive duties and Poole just happens to be the first younger guy getting what Draymond might believe is his part of the Golden State's money. Wiggins already makes a good amount of money so his possible extension probably doesn't feel like it's taking Draymond's money. It's a tough position for Draymond to be in, he probably has to go elsewhere for most of the rest of his career if he wants to keep making what he's worth.

[Hallstar]

Draymond has a player's option next year; he's looking for an extension while Poole is looking for big money himself, at some point Golden State can't keep paying everyone, especially a soon to be 33-year-old defensive specialist.

Sounds like Draymond was talking down to Poole trying to humble him because he really hasn't earned bragging rights as of yet, and like the comment of him being on a high horse perhaps too much swag with little substance and then you have Draymond on the other end also feeling a bit afraid that the young scoring guard will most likely get the big payday before he will because, well Draymond is on his way down, and Poole on his way up. Ownership will always do what's best for the team and perhaps cut him out on getting a payday himself. At some point something is gonna give, if Poole gets his extension first you could see a trade happening for Draymond heading somewhere else.

Right, Draymond has been the workhorse for Golden State but his time is about up there, and I think he knows that but that doesn't mean it's 100% right. I'm sure he's trying to get an extension now (where he declines next year's option) but Golden State expects Wiseman and Kaminga to basically take over his defensive duties and Poole just happens to be the first younger guy getting what Draymond might believe is his part of the Golden State's money. Wiggins already makes a good amount of money so his possible extension probably doesn't feel like it's taking Draymond's money. It's a tough position for Draymond to be in, he probably has to go elsewhere for most of the rest of his career if he wants to keep making what he's worth.

He's worth the most to GOlden State...no other team even entertains close to the money Draymond is talking about

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Elite Twitter thread here.

Notable players dunked on:

Giannis
KD
Myles Turner
Sabonis
Poetl
Gobert (literally bullied him and then went over top and banged on him)

Need this mindset all season. Kill these dudes

[AirP.]

Oladipo still not playing and it's also Herro's turn to take a game off, wonder if Bam ends up taking a game off.

“Just being cautious,” Oladipo said following Thursday’s morning shootaround ahead of the Heat’s preseason game against the Nets at Barclays Center. “But really, honestly, it’s just understanding that it’s a marathon and not a sprint and just making sure that I’m good and I feel great for when it starts rolling. It’s a mutual thing. But I’m here. I feel good. So I just got to continue to prepare myself mentally, physically and get as many reps as I can as far as practices and stuff like that.”

Oladipo, 30, insists he feels healthy after two surgeries on his right knee in the last three-plus years. But he’s still not sure if he will play this preseason, with three games remaining on the Heat’s preseason schedule following Thursday’s game in Brooklyn: Friday against the Memphis Grizzlies at FedExForum (8 p.m., Bally Sports and NBA TV), Monday against the Houston Rockets at FTX Arena and Wednesday against the New Orleans Pelicans at FTX Arena.

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