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[BurrellFor3]

Most of my draft opinions are meh, but I did a ton of research on the 2021 draft and I felt really confident about my takes that year.

I thought Bouknight was similar as a prospect to Monk, but not as good. Hes a little bigger and I think he might have a slightly better 1st step, but also has worse feel, worse handle, and has never actually been a reliable outside shooter at any level (whereas Monk was a sniper in HS and college). He definitely has talent, but he was two years older than one and done guys and the only thing he was really effective at in his two years of college was driving layups. I think he was more of a guy you take in the 15-25 range where his upside really starts to outweigh the negatives. I think he was a pretty big reach at 11 in what is looking to be a historically good draft class.

I think JB was given a playoffs or fired mandate last season and thats why he suddenly shifted from a development focus to almost being Clifford'esque in his rotation decisions. Bouk wasn't ready last year and JB was possibly coaching for his job, so he didn't really get the developmental attention that he needed throughout the season and he didn't seem to take it well personally, to say the least.

I doubt he gets the proper attention this year, but the roster is set up so that Clifford might be forced to give him some minutes anyways. When fully healthy, I think he'll at best be 9th in the rotation. Martin and Oubre will be the first off the bench and very likely at least one big, just by virtue of how rosters work, and guys like McDaniels and Thor could easily end up ahead of him too and could push him out of the rotation, especially if he is unable to function as a pseudo backup PG (which isn't looking likely).

He could still be a useful player, but this seems like it might be a bad situation for him and the off the court red flags are a bit worrying as well.

Pretty well said. Can’t really argue with this. Only thing I would add as a bonus compared to Monk is that Bouk has alpha/all star potential, where as Monk will always be a solid role player. Could argue one is better than the other though, particularly if the potential all star never lives up to that potential.

[fatlever]

I don't watch college hopes. I base my opinions on what I see from these guys starting with summer league onward, minus some YouTube college highlights.

My first impressions of both monk and bouk were immediately "we done **** up"

That being said, monk, based on his time here, looked to be the far better prospect. Better shooter. Better passer, better getting to the rim, quicker decisions with the ball. Monk at least looked like he could thrive off the ball or on the ball in a 6th man type role.


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[amcoolio]

I mean… Monk was way ahead his second year to what Bouknight is now. Bouk can’t beat anyone off the dribble and can’t shoot. They both don’t play defense. Bouk can pass a little, I guess? I don’t know, just someone as painfully slow with the ball as Bouknight, who also can’t shoot or play defense, just seems out of the league to me. Hopefully he proves me wrong, but if Utah wanted him for Clarkson, or San Antonio for McDermott, I would do it in a nanosecond

[JDR720]

I liked the Monk pick because he was the falling knife who was a highly touted prospect who fell to us. He was mocked as a top 5 pick most of the time and was maybe the best player on UK, which is always notable.

He failed here not because of his talent, but because of his attitude and off-court issues. In hindsight, we shouldn't kept him. He's a good fit with Melo.

Bouknight.. I feel like players like him are a dime a dozen. Undersized SG's, not a great shooter like he supposedly was. 4 star on a bad UCONN team. Passive and generally not that athletic either. He's a late-first round player top teams draft and turn into a 12-15 ppg guy off the bench everyone thinks is a steal.

I think Mark will be fine. All he needs to do is set screens, rebound and defend. Melo will make him a serviceable offensive player with lobs. Assuming Clifford ever plays him.

And if Plumlee actually takes shots like he did in that video in the regular season. Somebody gauge my eyes out.

[Braggins]

Obviously super small sample, but in the preseason so far they are tied for 27th in ppg and are 27th in points allowed with the 2nd worst point differential.

[Liver_Pooty]

I liked the Monk pick because he was the falling knife who was a highly touted prospect who fell to us. He was mocked as a top 5 pick most of the time and was maybe the best player on UK, which is always notable.

He failed here not because of his talent, but because of his attitude and off-court issues. In hindsight, we shouldn't kept him. He's a good fit with Melo.

Bouknight.. I feel like players like him are a dime a dozen. Undersized SG's, not a great shooter like he supposedly was. 4 star on a bad UCONN team. Passive and generally not that athletic either. He's a late-first round player top teams draft and turn into a 12-15 ppg guy off the bench everyone thinks is a steal.

I think Mark will be fine. All he needs to do is set screens, rebound and defend. Melo will make him a serviceable offensive player with lobs. Assuming Clifford ever plays him.

And if Plumlee actually takes shots like he did in that video in the regular season. Somebody gauge my eyes out.

We always pick the "falling knife". Vonleh fell and we picked him. Monk fell and we picked him. Bouknight was suppose to go top 6 to 8ish and fell, and we picked him.

Bouknight may or may not end up being better than Monk, but to be honest im glad Monk is gone. His attitude here, and even after he left was dog water.

[fatlever]

No one should be surprised if Bryce is ahead of Bouk at this same time next year, if not a lot sooner.

If you told me today I could only keep one of the two players, I would take bryce.

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[Liver_Pooty]

No one should be surprised if Bryce is ahead of Bouk at this same time next year, if not a lot sooner.

If you told me today I could only keep one of the two players, I would take bryce.

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Yeah I like Bryce. Hes got this smoothness about him.

[fatlever]

he's already a better shooter. he's got better ability to draw fouls. probably better at getting to rim. more effort. better size.

[Benjamin Linus]

I liked the Monk pick because he was the falling knife who was a highly touted prospect who fell to us. He was mocked as a top 5 pick most of the time and was maybe the best player on UK, which is always notable.

He failed here not because of his talent, but because of his attitude and off-court issues. In hindsight, we shouldn't kept him. He's a good fit with Melo.

Bouknight.. I feel like players like him are a dime a dozen. Undersized SG's, not a great shooter like he supposedly was. 4 star on a bad UCONN team. Passive and generally not that athletic either. He's a late-first round player top teams draft and turn into a 12-15 ppg guy off the bench everyone thinks is a steal.

I think Mark will be fine. All he needs to do is set screens, rebound and defend. Melo will make him a serviceable offensive player with lobs. Assuming Clifford ever plays him.

And if Plumlee actually takes shots like he did in that video in the regular season. Somebody gauge my eyes out.

We always pick the "falling knife". Vonleh fell and we picked him. Monk fell and we picked him. Bouknight was suppose to go top 6 to 8ish and fell, and we picked him.

Bouknight may or may not end up being better than Monk, but to be honest im glad Monk is gone. His attitude here, and even after he left was dog water.

It's like ever since the 2008 draft when Brook Lopez fell to us a 9 and we passed on him for DJ Augustin, MJ has been trying to right that wrong. I know that was several GMs ago but I wouldn't be surprised if MJ had some influence on us taking all these guys that fall to us in the Mitch and Cho eras