Draymond Green striking Jordan Poole at practice

[Old_Blue]

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[SFrush]

One game suspension. I'm a little disappointed Myers and Kerr were going to give Draymond a slap on the wrist. But I think the league steps in now.

[TB]

I find all the "press charges" stuff funny. Why is it now a days everyone just wants to sue or press charges for everything?

Poole aint a punk, he's not pressing charges. Relax. lol

[sonnyhill]

Dray for simmons, who says no now?

Interesting. For contracts to work may need to do something like:

Simmons and Cam Thomas or Dray and Wiseman.

I understand the need to match salaries...but...Cam Thomas?

[TB]

Dray for simmons, who says no now?

Interesting. For contracts to work may need to do something like:

Simmons and Cam Thomas or Dray and Wiseman.

I understand the need to match salaries...but...Cam Thomas?

I mean you gotta match salaries. There are plenty other options to get there too. I just don't see the point in saying Simmons for Dray when its not a legal trade. Wasn't saying I'd do the trade, just that If we are asking if we'd take Simmons, we'd have to agree to something like that with additional players added on both sides.

[Old_Blue]

I find all the "press charges" stuff funny. Why is it now a days everyone just wants to sue or press charges for everything? Poole aint a punk, he's not pressing charges. Relax. lol

Two thoughts...

(1) I haven't read anyone here (other than you) saying anything about "pressing charges."

(2) I've never once seen a plaintiff take offense to someone being dragged into court for committing a tort. It's always the defendants putting up the fuss. Moral of the story...Don't do things that make you a defendant.

[sonnyhill]

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Damn

This is actually worse than I imagined. Draymond could have seriously hurt Poole, not just with the sucker punch but also with the way Poole's head flew back and connected with the wall/floor. The punch itself was capable of causing both a concussion and whiplash. Then, the force of Poole's head hitting the wall/floor could have resulted in a quick second concussion. There's actually a term for the resulting injuries...Coup-Contrecoup

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_contrecoup_injury

In addition to the "What the hell was Draymond thinking?" question, why Poole would not have been checked out by the team's medical staff afterwards needs also to be questioned.

Yes, the optics of this video clip looks bad.

Some things to think about:
1. Other than Green, who else on the Warriors can stand up to opposing teams' enforcers?

2. Poole did make contact with his two-handed shove of Green;

3. Lacob, Myers, and Kerr and the Warrior org should be able to navigate through this ugly incident;

4. Much of Green's approach to basketball was "set" playing for Tom Izzo at Michigan State (https://travisdaugherty.com/tom-izzo-and-tough-coaching);

5. On a positive note, after winning a championship, perhaps having some drama, some edginess, and some internal conflict may be a good thing...Compare what is currently going on with the Warriors to the Rams (NFL). The Rams still look like they are in a "slumber" after celebrating-and-partying during the whole offseason after winning their Super Bowl championship.

[TB]

I find all the "press charges" stuff funny. Why is it now a days everyone just wants to sue or press charges for everything? Poole aint a punk, he's not pressing charges. Relax. lol

Two thoughts...

(1) I haven't read anyone here (other than you) saying anything about "pressing charges."

(2) I've never once seen a plaintiff take offense to someone being dragged into court for committing a tort. It's always the defendants putting up the fuss. Moral of the story...Don't do things that make you a defendant.

well said lol

[HiRez]

Yes, the optics of this video clip looks bad.

Some things to think about:
1. Other than Green, who else on the Warriors can stand up to opposing teams' enforcers?

2. Poole did make contact with his two-handed shove of Green;

3. Lacob, Myers, and Kerr and the Warrior org should be able to navigate through this ugly incident;

4. Much of Green's approach to basketball was "set" playing for Tom Izzo at Michigan State (https://travisdaugherty.com/tom-izzo-and-tough-coaching);

Man, that is a terrible take on the situation. It sounds like you're saying:

1. Let it go because we need Draymond's physicality in the game.

2. Might have been Poole's fault.

3. It's no big deal.

4. Not Draymond's fault because he was taught to be that way.

I mean come on, you're defending the indefensible. Poole clearly is just reacting to Draymond getting in his grille, which is understandable. Draymond is @#*% 32 years old and he's being treating like a 4 year old who didn't really know what he was doing. I've been a Draymond fan since he got here but I can't get past this and I doubt Poole ever will forgive him either. Even if they manage to cool off and play on the same team, that's never going away and will bubble up again at some point. He's destabilizing the team and needs to go.

[oaktownwarriors87]

Dray for simmons, who says no now?

Can't have Wiggins and Simmons on the same team. Both received max rookie extensions. Teams can't have two of those on the same team (via trade).

[oaktownwarriors87]

Yes, the optics of this video clip looks bad.

Some things to think about:
1. Other than Green, who else on the Warriors can stand up to opposing teams' enforcers?

2. Poole did make contact with his two-handed shove of Green;

3. Lacob, Myers, and Kerr and the Warrior org should be able to navigate through this ugly incident;

4. Much of Green's approach to basketball was "set" playing for Tom Izzo at Michigan State (https://travisdaugherty.com/tom-izzo-and-tough-coaching);

Man, that is a terrible take on the situation. It sounds like you're saying:

1. Let it go because we need Draymond's physicality in the game.

2. Might have been Poole's fault.

3. It's no big deal.

4. Not Draymond's fault because he was taught to be that way.

I mean come on, you're defending the indefensible. Poole clearly is just reacting to Draymond getting in his grille, which is understandable. Draymond is @#*% 32 years old and he's being treating like a 4 year old who didn't really know what he was doing. I've been a Draymond fan since he got here but I can't get past this and I doubt Poole ever will forgive him either. Even if they manage to cool off and play on the same team, that's never going away and will bubble up again at some point. He's destabilizing the team and needs to go.

That's why they need to suspend and shame Green.

[Old_Blue]

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[sonnyhill]

Yes, the optics of this video clip looks bad.

Some things to think about:
1. Other than Green, who else on the Warriors can stand up to opposing teams' enforcers?

2. Poole did make contact with his two-handed shove of Green;

3. Lacob, Myers, and Kerr and the Warrior org should be able to navigate through this ugly incident;

4. Much of Green's approach to basketball was "set" playing for Tom Izzo at Michigan State (https://travisdaugherty.com/tom-izzo-and-tough-coaching);

Man, that is a terrible take on the situation. It sounds like you're saying:

1. Let it go because we need Draymond's physicality in the game.

2. Might have been Poole's fault.

3. It's no big deal.

4. Not Draymond's fault because he was taught to be that way.

I mean come on, you're defending the indefensible. Poole clearly is just reacting to Draymond getting in his grille, which is understandable. Draymond is @#*% 32 years old and he's being treating like a 4 year old who didn't really know what he was doing. I've been a Draymond fan since he got here but I can't get past this and I doubt Poole ever will forgive him either. Even if they manage to cool off and play on the same team, that's never going away and will bubble up again at some point. He's destabilizing the team and needs to go.

I appreciate and agree with much of what you post.

1. If Poole cannot "forgive" Green, then Poole does not belong in the NBA. Kerr got an a$$ whipping from MJ, received an apology from MJ via a phone call, and continued on...

2. Poole put his hands on Green which triggered the punch-response;

3. It "may-or-may not" be a big deal;

4. This incident, while ugly, may be a good teaching (for Kerr) and learning (for Poole, Green, and the team) moment on better communication;

5. We need to stop infantilizing athletes, allow for them to make mistakes, take accountability for their mistakes, apologize, and move on. If Jordan Poole and Draymond Green cannot do this, then both have no business playing in the NBA.

Lastly, I have not heard of the Warriors fining nor suspending Green, which may mean that we fans and the media are making this out to be something bigger than it is.

[sonnyhill]

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LOL!!!

[Old_Blue]

Multiple present and former NBA players circling the wagons and taking offense to the video leaking. They all have a future in politics.

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[sonnyhill]

If Lacob, the Warriors, Green, and Poole manage this "crisis" correctly, we could possibly see this incident becoming the catalyst for Green and Poole, after finishing the season (with, hopefully, another Championship), becoming part of WWE's Summer Slam event. Maybe host it at Chase? Get Lacob in the ring as "special guest referee?"

[Old_Blue]

If Lacob, the Warriors, Green, and Poole manage this "crisis" correctly, we could possibly see this incident becoming the catalyst for Green and Poole, after finishing the season (with, hopefully, another Championship), becoming part of WWE's Summer Slam event. Maybe host it at Chase? Get Lacob in the ring as "special guest referee?"

Poole's a lover, not a fighter. Keep him out of the ring. But, I wouldn't mind seeing Draymond trying to go up against a legit professional boxer/MMA type. His reaction after getting his butt whipped would be worth the price of admission.

[Chupchup]

After watching the video, I can't see how you don't suspend Draymond. 1 game 2 games etc whatever.

[Chupchup]

Yes, the optics of this video clip looks bad.

Some things to think about:
1. Other than Green, who else on the Warriors can stand up to opposing teams' enforcers?

2. Poole did make contact with his two-handed shove of Green;

3. Lacob, Myers, and Kerr and the Warrior org should be able to navigate through this ugly incident;

4. Much of Green's approach to basketball was "set" playing for Tom Izzo at Michigan State (https://travisdaugherty.com/tom-izzo-and-tough-coaching);

Man, that is a terrible take on the situation. It sounds like you're saying:

1. Let it go because we need Draymond's physicality in the game.

2. Might have been Poole's fault.

3. It's no big deal.

4. Not Draymond's fault because he was taught to be that way.

I mean come on, you're defending the indefensible. Poole clearly is just reacting to Draymond getting in his grille, which is understandable. Draymond is @#*% 32 years old and he's being treating like a 4 year old who didn't really know what he was doing. I've been a Draymond fan since he got here but I can't get past this and I doubt Poole ever will forgive him either. Even if they manage to cool off and play on the same team, that's never going away and will bubble up again at some point. He's destabilizing the team and needs to go.

I appreciate and agree with much of what you post.

1. If Poole cannot "forgive" Green, then Poole does not belong in the NBA. Kerr got an a$$ whipping from MJ, received an apology from MJ via a phone call, and continued on...

2. Poole put his hands on Green which triggered the punch-response;

3. It "may-or-may not" be a big deal;

4. This incident, while ugly, may be a good teaching (for Kerr) and learning (for Poole, Green, and the team) moment on better communication;

5. We need to stop infantilizing athletes, allow for them to make mistakes, take accountability for their mistakes, apologize, and move on. If Jordan Poole and Draymond Green cannot do this, then both have no business playing in the NBA.

Lastly, I have not heard of the Warriors fining nor suspending Green, which may mean that we fans and the media are making this out to be something bigger than it is.

2 hand shove because a guy stepped to you doesn't mean you strike him. It's not Poole's issue. It's a Draymond issue. They not in the streets. This is a professional work environment.

Without a video, that's probably fine on no fine or suspension but now that the video is out, I don't see how they're not forced to do it.

[GSWFan1994]

Man... the thread has really gone over the hill, no? So many overreactions.

What Dray did was bad and injustifiable obviously, but some of you guys are about to call for his hanging on a public square in the next few days.

From my point of view, in the long term this incident will serve to make the team unite even more... on the way to a tighter group and a repeat.