Draymond Green striking Jordan Poole at practice

[HiRez]

After watching the video, I can't see how you don't suspend Draymond. 1 game 2 games etc whatever.

Should be 25+ games for something that vicious. 1 or 2 regular season games? What kind of punishment is that? In terms of basketball, Draymond's not even going to start waking up until March.

There's punishment for the act itself, but the bigger problems with a light punishment is 1) It enables Draymond even more, and 2) It sends a message to Poole and everyone else on the team, especially the younger guys, that they're not important and that the team is not going to have their back when things get bad. I seriously wonder if Poole even wants to play for this team anymore, if they give Draymond a slap on the wrist and sweep it under the rug. Does Poole really want to play (and practice, and travel) with this guy for 88+ games this year? I wouldn't.

There was reason enough to start thinking about moving on from Draymond before this ugly incident (max contract demand, age, injuries, KD, 2016 Finals, repeated various infractions) and now they're not going to get a better opportunity and justification than this. They're going to have to figure out how to play without Draymond pretty soon one way or another anyway. I admit it's not an ideal transition, but Draymond is kind of forcing their hand. They can't keep coddling this guy, first it was a constant circus of distractions, now it's actual physical violence. Don't think this incident isn't going to come back during the season if they both stay on the team.

[Chupchup]

After watching the video, I can't see how you don't suspend Draymond. 1 game 2 games etc whatever.

Should be 25+ games for something that vicious. 1 or 2 regular season games? What kind of punishment is that? Draymond's not even going to start waking up until March.

There's punishment for the act itself, but the bigger problems with a light punishment is 1) It enables Draymond even more, and 2) It sends a message to Poole and everyone else on the team, especially the younger guys, that they're not important and that the team is not going to have their back when things get bad. I seriously wonder if Poole even wants to play for this team anymore, if they give Draymond a slap on the wrist and sweep it under the rug. Does Poole really want to play (and practice, and travel) with this guy for 98+ games this year? I wouldn't.

There was reason enough to start thinking about moving on from Draymond before this ugly incident (max contract demand, age, injuries, KD, 2016 Finals, repeated various infractions) and now they're not going to get a better opportunity and justification than this. They're going to have to figure out how to play without Draymond pretty soon one way or another anyway. I admit it's not an ideal transition, but Draymond is kind of forcing their hand. They can't keep coddling this guy, first it was a constant circus of distractions, now it's actual physical violence. Don't think this incident isn't going to come back during the season if they both stay on the team.

I agree that's why I said some kind of suspension or punishment versus none. 25+ seems excessive. Anyone remember Bobby Portis and Nikola Mirotic incident with the Bulls a few years back? I think Portis got 8 games while Mirotic was out for half the season in the hospital.

[Onus]

David West chiming in, sounding like a Republican senator defending January 6 insurrectionists...

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I actually a gree with West here. Who ever leaked the video needs to be fired.

This is also why you need vets that have built up equity on the team because you see Ron Adams walking with draymond, because he knew something was going to go down. But wtf is Ron Adams going to do. Jamychal Green is probably the only one that could've stepped inbetween them and he should've been walking with them but he's so new on the team and fighting for a playing time that he wasn't paying attention. Iguodala should've been there as well. I do believe West would've stopped Draymond.

[WESCO]

Warriors FO is REALLY good for how everyone (players included) downplayed this.

If this video doesn't come out they weren't gonna suspend him?

I know JP pushed him however that punch from dray is assault and battery.

It will be so interesting to hear the interviews now the footage has dropped.

I wonder how much the leaker got for the vid. $250k? 1milli?

[GQ Hot Dog]

Man... the thread has really gone over the hill, no? So many overreactions.

What Dray did was bad and injustifiable obviously, but some of you guys are about to call for his hanging on a public square in the next few days.

From my point of view, in the long term this incident will serve to make the team unite even more... on the way to a tighter group and a repeat.

Fully agree.

Can we please have cooler heads prevail? So many pathetic, triggered individuals here.

Bob and Steve need to learn from the Draymond/KD incident, avoid getting involved and let these dudes patch it up between themselves.

Draymond messed up. He owned that. He and JP need to sit down, possibly with Andre and Steph to mediate, and find a way forward. This is an internal matter and it needs to be handled as such. They can talk this out, nothing else is necessary unless JP is out for blood. If he is, trade his ass no matter how the optics look.

Team camaraderie is built on a foundation of personal relationships and trust, as long as both parties are willing to reestablish that, this rift can be healed. Succumbing to optics and political correctness would put the team in the fast lane to self-destruction.

[Old_Blue]

I wonder how much the leaker got for the vid. $250k? 1milli?

You might be surprised to know just how little Harvey Levin typically pays for this sort of video. I would be surprised if it topped $50K. Harvey has eyes and ears EVERYWHERE.

https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2016/02/103270/tmz-new-yorker-dirty-dealings

The magazine found that TMZ reportedly paid $5,000 for footage of Drake accidentally dropping thousands of dollars outside a Washington strip club. The surveillance footage of Solange attacking Jay Z inside an elevator after the 2014 Met Gala was also reportedly bought for $5,000.

TMZ was the first outlet to post footage from inside the elevator during Ray Rice's attack of his then-fiancée, Janay Palmer, which showed him punching her unconscious. Up until then, only the footage of Rice dragging Palmer's body out of the elevator had been revealed. The second Rice video — reportedly obtained by an employee of the Revel casino who recorded the footage from the original video with his phone — resulted in the Baltimore Ravens player's suspension from the NFL. TMZ reportedly paid $90,000 for the clip, which was proof of what really happened, and led to some established journalists praising the website. Levin — who declined The New Yorker's requests for an interview — has defended the way he finds his news, telling a radio station in 2013, "You could take me, put me in Afghanistan, and I'll use the same principles I'd use with Britney Spears."

[SpreeS]

Now looking closely we could expect that Poole or Kuminga can have confict with Green

[GSWFan1994]

Fully agree.

Can we please have cooler heads prevail? So many pathetic, triggered individuals here.

Bob and Steve need to learn from the Draymond/KD incident, avoid getting involved and let these dudes patch it up between themselves.

Draymond messed up. He owned that. He and JP need to sit down, possibly with Andre and Steph to mediate, and find a way forward. This is an internal matter and it needs to be handled as such. They can talk this out, nothing else is necessary unless JP is out for blood. If he is, trade his ass no matter how the optics look.

Team camaraderie is built on a foundation of personal relationships and trust, as long as both parties are willing to reestablish that, this rift can be healed. Succumbing to optics and political correctness would put the team in the fast lane to self-destruction.

Thank you.

[GunnerWRX]

Man... the thread has really gone over the hill, no? So many overreactions.

What Dray did was bad and injustifiable obviously, but some of you guys are about to call for his hanging on a public square in the next few days.

From my point of view, in the long term this incident will serve to make the team unite even more... on the way to a tighter group and a repeat.

Fully agree.

Can we please have cooler heads prevail? So many pathetic, triggered individuals here.

Bob and Steve need to learn from the Draymond/KD incident, avoid getting involved and let these dudes patch it up between themselves.

Draymond messed up. He owned that. He and JP need to sit down, possibly with Andre and Steph to mediate, and find a way forward. This is an internal matter and it needs to be handled as such. They can talk this out, nothing else is necessary unless JP is out for blood. If he is, trade his ass no matter how the optics look.

Team camaraderie is built on a foundation of personal relationships and trust, as long as both parties are willing to reestablish that, this rift can be healed. Succumbing to optics and political correctness would put the team in the fast lane to self-destruction.

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If I were Poole or Steph it would be hard to go back to the old days if Haynes assaulted Poole's character at Klutch or Draymond's request. The stars all have the same reporters as channels to drive their own narratives, and it's easy to find out why Haynes wrote that.

The punching is really nothing. Draymond is Draymond, he (or his entourage) is going to be alleged to have assaulted someone from time to time, either a teammate or a random Joe who "offended" him on the street, or at a bar, whether you are a big guy or a woman. Everyone understands it comes with the package.

[xdrta+]

I agree that's why I said some kind of suspension or punishment versus none. 25+ seems excessive. Anyone remember Bobby Portis and Nikola Mirotic incident with the Bulls a few years back? I think Portis got 8 games while Mirotic was out for half the season in the hospital.

That's true, but one difference is that Mirotic charged Portis twice before Portis threw a punch. I do wonder what would be said now if Poole had broken bones in his face and a concussion like Mirotic did.

[Warriorfan]

Green just lost millions for his next contract.

[WarriorGM]

I thought when I heard the news it was maybe a little forceful shoving like what Poole did. I did not expect Draymond to clock Poole like that.

As a fan who wants to see the Warriors do well my initial reaction is to try and minimize it but if I'm being honest if taken out of that context I think it would be perfectly right to have Draymond charged with assault.

[thunderdunk]

Many years ago (more than 50) I got sucker punched like that by a kid on the playground. I've never forgotten it. And I also seriously thought about killing him. Just saying.

[DaHef]

Green just lost millions for his next contract.

Not to mention a studio career down the line.

[clyde21]

Video is out on twitter of Green 'sucker' punching Jordan Poole. Can't tell what was being said obviously, but Green throws a wild right punch and connects with Pooles chin and Poole goes down, but Green also charges him and looks to hold him from falling. Others come to break it up.

I dont know what was said, but throwing and connecting a punch and an unexpected punch and landing it on someones chin warrants suspension imo.

oh...is that what u think Dray was doing?

[Old_Blue]

The punching is really nothing. Draymond is Draymond, he (or his entourage) is going to be alleged to have assaulted someone from time to time, either a teammate or a random Joe who "offended" him on the street, or at a bar, whether you are a big guy or a woman. Everyone understands it comes with the package.

Sad but true. The stories of Draymond and, as you say, his "entourage" going after various people (including women) go back years. The only difference now is the video. But, even without video, the team has undoubtedly been aware of these various incidents.

[clyde21]

I find all the "press charges" stuff funny. Why is it now a days everyone just wants to sue or press charges for everything?

Poole aint a punk, he's not pressing charges. Relax. lol

Poole aint pressing chargers, who tf is talking about pressing charges? lmao

[Old_Blue]

One commonality between all these physical altercations/near altercations involving Draymond is that the target of his aggression invariably is a much younger athlete. Here's Draymond from only four weeks ago (September 10) at a Michigan State/Akron football game. Draymond and his crew are jawing with the Akron team, stepping onto the field, eventually needing to be asked to step back. These are guys in their late teens and early twenties that Draymond is going after. Akron was blown out 52-0. There was zero reason for Draymond to be doing anything other than having a good time at a college football game. Coupled with the 2016 Michigan State player choking incident, this has become a disturbing pattern with Draymond.

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[NRSV]

Draymond is trash.

[GswStorm3]

What is Myers thinking here? You were leaning towards not suspending Draymond for physically assaulting a teammate. But you suspended him one game for a verbal spat. The optics look terrible there.