2022-2023 Preseason Game 3: Orlando Magic (1-1) at Dallas Mavericks (0-1) - 8:30pm

[pepe1991]

Dude blindside hit someone with his shoulder. I think this is actually dirtier than the play that got Allen suspended. He was at least making a play for the ball in the loosest sense.

Oh come on man. Caruso was pushed with force in mid air . He went for ball and ended up pulling both of Carusos arms down.

Dinwiddie bumped player on the floor with his shoulder .

It's just Jalen who happened to be mid step and landed super awkwardlly ( probably tried to avoid falling on other Mavs player) .

Bumps like this happen after every screen.

If you say so.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

I just saw the Suggs injury and wow that was a helluva dirty play by Dinwiddie.

Wasn't remotely a basketball play, he just pushed him for pushing sake, off guard too. During preseason on top of it all.

I'm pretty disappointed no Orlando Magic players ran up and confronted him/got physical with him immediately. We can't let players from other teams even think of trying some like that. This is where having an enforcer is helpful on an intangible level.

To be honest, I didn’t notice Dimwiddie pushed him until I watched the clip. I wonder if the team realized it as well.

[Audi]

Oh find it on youtube

It didn't really looked dirty to me, push was done, for sure, but Jalen landed awkwardly

btw why da *** nobody of teammates helped him walk out?

Dude blindside hit someone with his shoulder. I think this is actually dirtier than the play that got Allen suspended. He was at least making a play for the ball in the loosest sense.

Oh come on man. Caruso was pushed with force in mid air . He went for ball and ended up pulling both of Carusos arms down.

Dinwiddie bumped player on the floor with his shoulder .

It's just Jalen who happened to be mid step and landed super awkwardlly ( probably tried to avoid falling on other Mavs player) .

Bumps like this happen after every screen.

What screen? I agree you see bumps like this after screens...but there’s no screen here. The element of surprise is what made this bump/push so neglectful.

[pepe1991]

Dude blindside hit someone with his shoulder. I think this is actually dirtier than the play that got Allen suspended. He was at least making a play for the ball in the loosest sense.

Oh come on man. Caruso was pushed with force in mid air . He went for ball and ended up pulling both of Carusos arms down.

Dinwiddie bumped player on the floor with his shoulder .

It's just Jalen who happened to be mid step and landed super awkwardlly ( probably tried to avoid falling on other Mavs player) .

Bumps like this happen after every screen.

What screen? I agree you see bumps like this after screens...but there’s no screen here. The element of surprise is what made this bump/push so neglectful.

I said those type of contacts happend after every screen. Suggs just landed poorly as bump happend in between steps. He probably didn't expect any contact, Dinwiddie used shoulder & elevated elbow slightly, but "dirty" play would be player wanting to do something that isn't normal. This ain't it. It's unlucky injury.

[BlueBalls]

We’re cursed. Fultz out indefinitely. Suggs out indefinitely. No idea when or if Isaac is coming back.

But hey, lotto again? Wenbanyana?

[PrimeThyme]

Injuries have completely derailed Suggs career so far.

I can’t even give a fair assessment on him knowing the difficult learning curve of young guards in this league and how important it is for them to get reps on the court.

While it’s tragic, I think it’s going to be a good development for Wagner/Paolo. They will be handling the bulk of the ball handling/playmaking duties this year and it will result in meaningful reps for both.

Im looking at scoot as much as anybody in this draft. He may not be generational like Vic, but he’s a 1st team all nba talent who would elevate this roster to future contending status.

[VFX]

Injuries have completely derailed Suggs career so far.

I can’t even give a fair assessment on him knowing the difficult learning curve of young guards in this league and how important it is for them to get reps on the court.

While it’s tragic, I think it’s going to be a good development for Wagner/Paolo. They will be handling the bulk of the ball handling/playmaking duties this year and it will result in meaningful reps for both.

Im looking at scoot as much as anybody in this draft. He may not be generational like Vic, but he’s a 1st team all nba talent who would elevate this roster to future contending status.

Don’t worry. He’ll be labeled a bust until he returns. Can’t say he’s showed much so far this preseason when he’s been able to play.

I’m not willing to eat crow on him yet until the season is over.

[basketballRob]

Injuries have completely derailed Suggs career so far.

I can’t even give a fair assessment on him knowing the difficult learning curve of young guards in this league and how important it is for them to get reps on the court.

While it’s tragic, I think it’s going to be a good development for Wagner/Paolo. They will be handling the bulk of the ball handling/playmaking duties this year and it will result in meaningful reps for both.

Im looking at scoot as much as anybody in this draft. He may not be generational like Vic, but he’s a 1st team all nba talent who would elevate this roster to future contending status.

Don’t worry. He’ll be labeled a bust until he returns. Can’t say he’s showed much so far this preseason when he’s been able to play.

I’m not willing to eat crow on him yet until the season is over.

His leg was wrapped before the injury. He might've been playing with an injury.

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[ORLMagicGirl15]

Injuries have completely derailed Suggs career so far.

I can’t even give a fair assessment on him knowing the difficult learning curve of young guards in this league and how important it is for them to get reps on the court.

While it’s tragic, I think it’s going to be a good development for Wagner/Paolo. They will be handling the bulk of the ball handling/playmaking duties this year and it will result in meaningful reps for both.

Im looking at scoot as much as anybody in this draft. He may not be generational like Vic, but he’s a 1st team all nba talent who would elevate this roster to future contending status.

Don’t worry. He’ll be labeled a bust until he returns. Can’t say he’s showed much so far this preseason when he’s been able to play.

I’m not willing to eat crow on him yet until the season is over.

His leg was wrapped before the injury. He might've been playing with an injury.

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Orlando won’t let Fultz play on a broken toe, I cannot see them letting Suggs play with any type of knee injury.

[Blue_and_Whte]

Injuries have completely derailed Suggs career so far.

I can’t even give a fair assessment on him knowing the difficult learning curve of young guards in this league and how important it is for them to get reps on the court.

While it’s tragic, I think it’s going to be a good development for Wagner/Paolo. They will be handling the bulk of the ball handling/playmaking duties this year and it will result in meaningful reps for both.

Im looking at scoot as much as anybody in this draft. He may not be generational like Vic, but he’s a 1st team all nba talent who would elevate this roster to future contending status.

Don’t worry. He’ll be labeled a bust until he returns. Can’t say he’s showed much so far this preseason when he’s been able to play.

I’m not willing to eat crow on him yet until the season is over.

There’s no way to fully assess him as a player right now. I really hope this doesn’t derail his career more than it has.
EDIT: I also think the form On Houstan’s shot will give him an opportunity play well off of PB5/Franz/WCJ assuming he fills in the gap left behind by Suggs and Harris. We’ll see.

[JTG_92940618]

The medical casually walks out after a minute.

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That kinda pissed me off. A lot of medical teams sprint the second they see someone grabbing a leg. Not the magic staff…

Do you know how tired they'd get from all the running?

[basketballRob]

The medical casually walks out after a minute.

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That kinda pissed me off. A lot of medical teams sprint the second they see someone grabbing a leg. Not the magic staff…

Do you know how tired they'd get from all the running?

The medical staff going out to check on an injury.

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[JTG_92940618]

I'm up to date with all the pre-season games now so just a few notes which I don't think have been touched on:

- Firstly, although it's too early to call, WCJ's passing seems to have made a jump. I swear he's gotten better at finding open guys with passes that aren't elementary. Or rather with vision that isn't elementary.

- Okeke is struggling to get skinny around screens. I don't remember what he did last season but we need him to be that defender again. Right now if he's not defending at a high level, he's not adding too much. I wonder if Paolo is taking the defensive matchups that Okeke took last year and now Chuma is defending the perimeter more, which isn't his perfect situation?

- If Bol Bol makes the roster, he's going to chop up garbage time when/if both teams make it a track meet. He can rebound well enough and then start a fast break himself, which should lead to shots for him because passing isn't his first thought. I'm not sure it's a winning formula but I expect he'll have several games of like 10 points, 6 rebounds, 2 blocks in 12 minutes. Shame he's not worth much in the half-court yet.

- Our defensive intensity goes through the roof once we play our no-names (i.e. several of Harris, Cannady, Simpson, Houstan and Ford). Obviously, all of them have more riding on pre-season games than guys with contracts. It's just funny to see our better players get absolutely slaughtered, even guys like Bamba and Ross who have something to prove, and then we bring in a bunch of nobodies who move on a string, close out perfectly etc. etc.

- I'm pleased for RJ. I suspect he's played himself off the chopping block.

[pepe1991]

I'm up to date with all the pre-season games now so just a few notes which I don't think have been touched on:

- Firstly, although it's too early to call, WCJ's passing seems to have made a jump. I swear he's gotten better at finding open guys with passes that aren't elementary. Or rather with vision that isn't elementary.

- Okeke is struggling to get skinny around screens. I don't remember what he did last season but we need him to be that defender again. Right now if he's not defending at a high level, he's not adding too much. I wonder if Paolo is taking the defensive matchups that Okeke took last year and now Chuma is defending the perimeter more, which isn't his perfect situation?

- If Bol Bol makes the roster, he's going to chop up garbage time when/if both teams make it a track meet. He can rebound well enough and then start a fast break himself, which should lead to shots for him because passing isn't his first thought. I'm not sure it's a winning formula but I expect he'll have several games of like 10 points, 6 rebounds, 2 blocks in 12 minutes. Shame he's not worth much in the half-court yet.

- Our defensive intensity goes through the roof once we play our no-names (i.e. several of Harris, Cannady, Simpson, Houstan and Ford). Obviously, all of them have more riding on pre-season games than guys with contracts. It's just funny to see our better players get absolutely slaughtered, even guys like Bamba and Ross who have something to prove, and then we bring in a bunch of nobodies who move on a string, close out perfectly etc. etc.

- I'm pleased for RJ. I suspect he's played himself off the chopping block.

In order to stay competitive in games rotation should be ( assuming, Fultz, Isaac, Harris, Sugs aren't aveliable)

PG: Cole /Cannady
SG: Hampton/ Ross
SF: Wagner
PF Banchero/ Okeke
C: Wendell Carter / Bamba or Wagner

I would not even bother playing 10 men linup given lack of talent. 9 players sounds about right.

My personal biggest red flag about 3 games of preseason is complete lack of plan on both ends when we play against organized lineups. Offense in particular looked really bad.

[basketballRob]

I'm up to date with all the pre-season games now so just a few notes which I don't think have been touched on:

- Firstly, although it's too early to call, WCJ's passing seems to have made a jump. I swear he's gotten better at finding open guys with passes that aren't elementary. Or rather with vision that isn't elementary.

- Okeke is struggling to get skinny around screens. I don't remember what he did last season but we need him to be that defender again. Right now if he's not defending at a high level, he's not adding too much. I wonder if Paolo is taking the defensive matchups that Okeke took last year and now Chuma is defending the perimeter more, which isn't his perfect situation?

- If Bol Bol makes the roster, he's going to chop up garbage time when/if both teams make it a track meet. He can rebound well enough and then start a fast break himself, which should lead to shots for him because passing isn't his first thought. I'm not sure it's a winning formula but I expect he'll have several games of like 10 points, 6 rebounds, 2 blocks in 12 minutes. Shame he's not worth much in the half-court yet.

- Our defensive intensity goes through the roof once we play our no-names (i.e. several of Harris, Cannady, Simpson, Houstan and Ford). Obviously, all of them have more riding on pre-season games than guys with contracts. It's just funny to see our better players get absolutely slaughtered, even guys like Bamba and Ross who have something to prove, and then we bring in a bunch of nobodies who move on a string, close out perfectly etc. etc.

- I'm pleased for RJ. I suspect he's played himself off the chopping block.

In order to stay competitive in games rotation should be ( assuming, Fultz, Isaac, Harris, Sugs aren't aveliable)

PG: Cole /Cannady
SG: Hampton/ Ross
SF: Wagner
PF Banchero/ Okeke
C: Wendell Carter / Bamba or Wagner

I would not even bother playing 10 men linup given lack of talent. 9 players sounds about right.

My personal biggest red flag about 3 games of preseason is complete lack of plan on both ends when we play against organized lineups. Offense in particular looked really bad.

Cole and Hampton starting is the exact lineup that Kyrie dropped 60 on last season. I like Ross' size in the starting lineup. He plays well when Harris isn't playing. It also builds his value.

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[Skybox]

Watching the ball whip around the perimeter is a beautiful thing…would be nice to see ORL try it. Mosely seems like a great guy but if he can’t create an offensive game plan other than “give it to ________” (Cole, Franz, PB…), we’re dead in the water.

What’s Quin Snyder up to?

[Bergmaniac]

Cole and Hampton starting is the exact lineup that Kyrie dropped 60 on last season. I like Ross' size in the starting lineup. He plays well when Harris isn't playing. It also builds his value.

Ross hasn't tried on defense in years except in brief stints once every 10 games or so. His size is useless when he couldn't be bothered to move his feet at all on D.

[basketballRob]

Cole and Hampton starting is the exact lineup that Kyrie dropped 60 on last season. I like Ross' size in the starting lineup. He plays well when Harris isn't playing. It also builds his value.

Ross hasn't tried on defense in years except in brief stints once every 10 games or so. His size is useless when he couldn't be bothered to move his feet at all on D.

Ross just isn't as small and weak as the other two.

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