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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 27 Years Old 

Post#1501 » by CharityStripe34 » Thu Sep 29, 2022 3:11 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:I'd be stunned if he doesn't win another MVP. Going into his age-28 season with still probably at least a half decade of prime years left, it'd have to be some pretty extreme contrarian narrative group-think amongst the media and voters to deny him another trophy before his career is done. Even once he reaches his mid-30's, I think he's gonna be a Duncan/KG level defensive anchor and rack up another DPOTY or two.


I'm thinking even this season if the Bucks have a "bounce back" year in the rankings and finish as a Top Two seed, with Gianni putting up brilliant numbers and playing around 66-70 games he should be, at worst, a Top Three candidate if not the favorite. We know of course that narrative is a major factor, and some of the voters will want fresh blood (Luka, Embiid, Ja).
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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 27 Years Old 

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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 27 Years Old 

Post#1503 » by CharityStripe34 » Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:54 pm



DeRozan showing major respect. "He's a ****' killer!" A few players around the league (Trae Young) are starting to call him that.
"Wes, Hill, Ibaka, Allen, Nwora, Brook, Pat, Ingles, Khris are all slow-mo, injury prone ... a sandcastle waiting for playoff wave to get wrecked. A castle with no long-range archers... is destined to fall. That is all I have to say."-- FOTIS
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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 27 Years Old 

Post#1504 » by old skool » Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:35 pm

For me, Antetokounmpo is starting to reach the point where it is not necessarily reasonable to expect continual improvement year after year. Arguably, there has never been a NBA player who has improved so much every season in the league for 9 years. That has to slow and eventually stop at some point.

I think his future will be fascinating. Will his game improve or simply evolve? Will athletic physicality continue to be his primary attribute or will he transition to a game featuring more nuance and finesse? Will his body hold up?

It should be quite a ride and we should never fail to appreciate how incredible it is to be able to watch it all. Over time, Giannis will become a historical legend, viewed in a compressed time line similar to how fans today see Mikan, Wilt, Russel and Kareem. Over time, the true wonder of a superstar fades. The highlights are enshrined forever, but the details are lost. The cadence of the dominance is lost. We should never take for granted what we are able to watch up close. Ten years ago, who among us would have believed that the Milwaukee Bucks would one day soon have a player that could legitimately be considered as a top 15 player of all time? Appreciate it. Savor it. Embrace it.
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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 27 Years Old 

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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 27 Years Old 

Post#1506 » by HKPackFan » Fri Sep 30, 2022 1:09 am

I'm aware we are in the greatest Era of Milwaukee bucks history of all time.

Kareem was before I was born, but this is bigger, Giannis wants to be hear and is content in Milwaukee.

Kareem was already a somewhat finished product and had most of his success in LA, whereas we got to see baby Giannis grow into MVP Giannis grow into championship Giannis who now possibly could become top 10 Goat level over the next several years.


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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 27 Years Old 

Post#1507 » by CharityStripe34 » Fri Sep 30, 2022 1:00 pm

old skool wrote:For me, Antetokounmpo is starting to reach the point where it is not necessarily reasonable to expect continual improvement year after year. Arguably, there has never been a NBA player who has improved so much every season in the league for 9 years. That has to slow and eventually stop at some point.

I think his future will be fascinating. Will his game improve or simply evolve? Will athletic physicality continue to be his primary attribute or will he transition to a game featuring more nuance and finesse? Will his body hold up?

It should be quite a ride and we should never fail to appreciate how incredible it is to be able to watch it all. Over time, Giannis will become a historical legend, viewed in a compressed time line similar to how fans today see Mikan, Wilt, Russel and Kareem. Over time, the true wonder of a superstar fades. The highlights are enshrined forever, but the details are lost. The cadence of the dominance is lost. We should never take for granted what we are able to watch up close. Ten years ago, who among us would have believed that the Milwaukee Bucks would one day soon have a player that could legitimately be considered as a top 15 player of all time? Appreciate it. Savor it. Embrace it.


I don't ever expect him to suddenly become a 36% three-point shooter. I think he'll probably settle somewhere in the low 30's at best. But what I do expect to see is a gradual shift in his reliance on physicality to using more of his finesse. Hook shots, floaters, post-ups, fades, etc. I fully expect that 15-20FT mid-range to become one of his main go-to moves after he turns 30. Which is why I don't complain when he sometimes settles for them, because it's his best-looking shot. Basically, the stuff he's been adding the last 2-3 seasons, just more of that type of game and less straight-line drives and insane Euros. This will be his evolution and he'll settle into an old-man KG type of game once he approaches his mid-thirties, as an offensive hub with screens and ball-movement. As well as a defensive rim-protecting hub.
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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 27 Years Old 

Post#1508 » by LuessiT » Fri Sep 30, 2022 1:08 pm

I definitely expect Giannis to have a 36% year from 3. His shooting mechanics are at a level where it's reasonable to expect this assuming he keeps getting guarded the way he is. His C&S numbers are there already (34.5% on low volume). It's the premeditated pull ups that he's struggling with.
I feel like Giannis could be used as a pop threat on a low amount of possessions after setting a screen to keep the defense a bit more honest.
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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 27 Years Old 

Post#1510 » by Jez2983 » Mon Oct 3, 2022 5:18 am

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Ron Swanson wrote:For like, 3-5 year peaks, it's basically him, Lebron, Duncan, Curry, and Shaq in the post-Jordan era. Longevity is overrated. He's clearly already above dudes like Stockton and Malone who are basically the longevity gold standards.

I'm not a big rings guy*, but there is a big difference between 1 ring and multiple. Guys may luck into 1 ring or may have got unlucky missing a 3rd ring, but guys who have been holding the trophy multiple times are on a different level IMO.

Agree with everything else you said.

*I think guys like Kobe are a little overrated getting 3 rings with Shaq, AD with LBJ, or LBJ in general-from a rings standpoint.


Yep, probably what I should have said is longevity to really bump up his overall totals. He has what, 14k NBA points? I'm sure him having 20k looks better on his CV oh my god Antwan Jamison has 20,000 NBA points.
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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 27 Years Old 

Post#1512 » by CharityStripe34 » Tue Oct 4, 2022 12:33 pm

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Imagine if he actually starts to understand basketball.
"Wes, Hill, Ibaka, Allen, Nwora, Brook, Pat, Ingles, Khris are all slow-mo, injury prone ... a sandcastle waiting for playoff wave to get wrecked. A castle with no long-range archers... is destined to fall. That is all I have to say."-- FOTIS
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Post#1513 » by emunney » Tue Oct 4, 2022 2:10 pm

Not sure what it means for my fellow posters and me if Arenas can only be right about Giannis if he's better than him at basketball!
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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 27 Years Old 

Post#1514 » by Prez » Thu Oct 6, 2022 1:42 am

These clown ass former players can say what they want but deep down Giannis' contemporaries who actually have to face him know what's up.

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Post#1515 » by MikeIsGood » Sat Oct 8, 2022 12:15 am

For your viewing pleasure, here's Giannis learning a dance from a Bollywood actor.

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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 27 Years Old 

Post#1518 » by HKPackFan » Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:36 am

Big bro and mama getting a commercial spot makes me really happy.

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Post#1519 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:24 pm

HKPackFan wrote:Big bro and mama getting a commercial spot makes me really happy.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CjxyrWtOqKW/?igshid=ZjA0NjI3M2I=

For family entourage, Thanisis is pretty cool. Just seems like a great guy, does the dirty work (attends all the STH events and other BS), and somehow simultaneously takes 100% advantage of the spotlight without giving off a sense of entitlement. Just living his best life while also recognizing it's his bros ability that got him there.
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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 27 Years Old 

Post#1520 » by Iheartfootball » Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:15 am

Yes! And I love him EVEN more.

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