Potential destinations for Dame if our season should falter?

[PDXKnight]

Just think what could have been with this last draft class and probably next year's. This kind of reminds me of the Russell Wilson trade with the Seahawks...I think we might have missed our window.

Knicks haven't dealt away capital they're quite possibly a team that will pay too much here. Dolan always seems to take over

[Village Idiot]

What if things don't work out so well for LeBron and the Fakers around mid January... Sticking to the topic:

Davis / Westbrook --- FOR --- Lillard / Nurkic / Hart

Picks could be added or whatever. Works on the checker... Pretty sure I hate it.

No to this package that's garbage

I would assume we would be rebuilding under this scenario and hence Davis should be routed elsewhere for picks and young players.

If the Lakers should struggle but we are playing well a January and Ant and Keon are looking good something like Ant, Keon, Hart and Nas for Davis might be possible. I expect both of us to struggle though.

[BlazersBroncos]

What if things don't work out so well for LeBron and the Fakers around mid January... Sticking to the topic:

Davis / Westbrook --- FOR --- Lillard / Nurkic / Hart

Picks could be added or whatever. Works on the checker... Pretty sure I hate it.

No to this package that's garbage

I would assume we would be rebuilding under this scenario and hence Davis should be routed elsewhere for picks and young players.

If the Lakers should struggle but we are playing well a January and Ant and Keon are looking good something like Ant, Keon, Hart and Nas for Davis might be possible. I expect both of us to struggle though.

That package is a Shadeon Sharpe away from LAL even picking up the phone IMO.

[wco81]

Kevin O'Connor suggests that if the Blazers don't start out well, they could tank for VW.

He's not even talking about trading Dame. Guess it would depend on how well he's recovered.

[Norm2953]

A 30-52 season might not get Portland into the top six of this draft for there will be real competition for
the top pick in the 2023 pick

[PDXKnight]

No to this package that's garbage

I would assume we would be rebuilding under this scenario and hence Davis should be routed elsewhere for picks and young players.

If the Lakers should struggle but we are playing well a January and Ant and Keon are looking good something like Ant, Keon, Hart and Nas for Davis might be possible. I expect both of us to struggle though.

That package is a Shadeon Sharpe away from LAL even picking up the phone IMO.

Depends how you regard Westbrook. Most teams see him as a negative currently

[wco81]

I would assume we would be rebuilding under this scenario and hence Davis should be routed elsewhere for picks and young players.

If the Lakers should struggle but we are playing well a January and Ant and Keon are looking good something like Ant, Keon, Hart and Nas for Davis might be possible. I expect both of us to struggle though.

That package is a Shadeon Sharpe away from LAL even picking up the phone IMO.

Depends how you regard Westbrook. Most teams see him as a negative currently

But if the Blazers struggle, it would be a way for the team to get out from under huge long-term financial obligations if they want to move Lillard.

It would be difficult of course to do a salary dump of the face of the franchise and one of the franchise GOATS, even if it did lead to the Blazers drafting VW.

[BlazersBroncos]

That package is a Shadeon Sharpe away from LAL even picking up the phone IMO.

Depends how you regard Westbrook. Most teams see him as a negative currently

But if the Blazers struggle, it would be a way for the team to get out from under huge long-term financial obligations if they want to move Lillard.

It would be difficult of course to do a salary dump of the face of the franchise and one of the franchise GOATS, even if it did lead to the Blazers drafting VW.

Even if we went 0 wins this year our chances of winning the lotto for VW stand at 14%. This isn’t the NFL.

Westy and 2 FRP 5 and 7 years out doesn’t get you Dame. I don’t care what the salary implications are. That’s an absurdly low return.

Even if LBJ retires a Dame / AD duo is getting you to the POs in 5 years IMO. Those picks are long off and likely end up meh.

[m0ng0]

Davis and Westbrook do not make us any better at all and Lakers picks in 2050 don't really help much either. That's absolute nonsense

[Wizenheimer]

IMO, Dame's extension was a pretty big signal that both Dame and Cronin believe Dame will be going nowhere

I don't think any team would agree to trade for a PG who will be making 59M when he's 36, and 63M when he's 37. Dame is special to Portland...he won't be to any other team

the player the Blazers should consider trading is Simons

[m0ng0]

I respect your knowledge on all things Blazers but what could we possibly get that makes us better as this would be a win now scenario? Draft picks are going to take to much time, who could we get that moves the needle asap and is it good enough to trade a potential chip for the teams long term future?

[Dame Lizard]

IMO, Dame's extension was a pretty big signal that both Dame and Cronin believe Dame will be going nowhere

I don't think any team would agree to trade for a PG who will be making 59M when he's 36, and 63M when he's 37. Dame is special to Portland...he won't be to any other team

the player the Blazers should consider trading is Simons

just reflecting on your statement that Dame is special to Portland.

To flip it around, if Portland was so special to Dame, he shouldn't have needed $60m per annum to extend at age 36.

And I know the "don't hate the player, hate the game" quote, so the above is even more targeted at Cronin and the franchise than it is at Dame.

[tester551]

I don't think any team would agree to trade for a PG who will be making 59M when he's 36, and 63M when he's 37. Dame is special to Portland...he won't be to any other team

I don't buy that...

Look at CP3. At age 35 (while making $41M) the Suns gave up a 1st and 2 useful players (Rubio/Oubre).

From a percentage of cap standpoint, Dame's future salary may not be much different that what CP3's was.

I'll concede that the return in a Dame trade may not be large.... but I'm sure there will be a team willing to trade for him at that stage.

[Jsun947]

If we do nothing we’re likely the 12th worst team in the league. I we tank mid season we’re likely at best going to move up to the 8-9 spot, more likely 10-11.

8 9, 10 have the same odds at the #1 pick. There simply isn’t a ton of value in us excessively tanking to try and get victor. It certainly doesn’t make sense to trade our best players for a weaker return. We’d be better off sitting them, finishing with the 10th worst record, and if we get lucky we add Victor to our current mix.

[RoyceDa59]

Teams that would be heavily interested in acquiring Dame.

Miami Heat
Milwaukee Bucks
LA Lakers
Toronto Raptors
Boston Celtics
Denver Nuggets
Likely others.

Don’t kid yourself, there would still be a strong bidding war for a guy like Dame.

[Bigpoppapomp82]

If we get off to a slow start and Dame returns to his pre injury form. Once he breaks Drexler's scoring record and cements himself as the best Blazer of all time I could see him being traded like we did with Drexler to a contender to get him a ring. I think this would be the most logical thing and then trade Nurk, Grant, Ant, Hart, Winslow, GP2, Eubanks and keep Sharpe, Keon, Jabari. Anyone else can go. Chicago has some young guys that would interest me and we could get the pick back from them. Miami IF they were willing to give up Bam could be intruiging but thats a big IF. NY has some interesting pieces and picks we could get back. Ultimately if we get off to a slow start it is time to blow it up. Let Chauncey go and sell the damn team to Uncle Phil and build around Sharpe. If we are lucky enough to get a Victor W. or Scoot even better. Even someone like K. Ware or one of the Thompson Bros would be solid additions to pair with Sharpe. Trying to hope for the best and prepare for the worst as Blazers fans do not get nice things historically as Brandon Sprague says all the time!

[Wizenheimer]

I don't think any team would agree to trade for a PG who will be making 59M when he's 36, and 63M when he's 37. Dame is special to Portland...he won't be to any other team

I don't buy that...

Look at CP3. At age 35 (while making $41M) the Suns gave up a 1st and 2 useful players (Rubio/Oubre).

From a percentage of cap standpoint, Dame's future salary may not be much different that what CP3's was.

I'll concede that the return in a Dame trade may not be large.... but I'm sure there will be a team willing to trade for him at that stage.

the Suns traded Rubio, Oubre, and a 30th pick. That's two lower-level role players and the worst 1st round pick there is. So yeah, it's possible that Portland could trade Dame for a crappy return

[PDXKnight]

Man if we can get what we got for cj Dame definitely will garner more. 32 and 35 are a big difference in player years, at 35 maybe that's what Dame garners as far as the cp3 trade

[GEE]

Something to seriously consider for all... There is going to be plenty of teams that will gladly suck all of next season, with the hopes of winning the lottery. Those teams you can count out for sure, and I would imagine that those same teams are the ones holding most of the drafts future FRPs. So there's that.

Teams on the brink... Teams one move away from getting past team Z in the playoffs... Like someone suggested, the bigger fish teams. But when you look at the potential returns from these teams, it ain't good. I think the best we could hope for (and what nobody will like) is for Dame to stay in Portland, but realize it MIGHT be best for HIM to be the 6th man. I honestly think this is best, especially considering the KOBE-like retirement package contract extension he just got. It's entirely possible to think this very scenario could have been discussed amongst Cronin, Chauncey and Dame before he inked that extension. Still baffled by the motive for doing it (from Cronin's perspective) otherwise. Payed to play whatever role necessary to win it all... hopefully, but Dame peak (I think) HAS already hit, and he WILL start to decline over the length of his current contract. Play it out as our much needed 6th man and retire the best Blazer ever... This, I'd be most happy with.

[CDM_Stats]

I think that just based on this question, we should already be looking to move Dame as soon as health permits. I dont think the timelines match up anymore and unless we're talking about a team that comes out on fire and shocks the league, the main goal for this season should be to recoup value on Dame and lean into a rebuild, with Nurk Alert and Grant the next to pump and dump