2022-23 English Premier League Discussion Thread

[MetalFingaz]

Southgate if you know what’s good for England then Maddison should be on that plane to Qatar.

Southgate manages England to protect his position. The English media has decided that it's okay to lose low-scoring games, especially if you can blame (and then rally behind) the kids for missing penalties. England will have another unceremonious major tournament, squandering their elite attacking talent. Which is fine, as an American.

[HIF]

I lowkey cheer for Forest just because they have no ad on their jersey, it is such a weird look, like you watching team from the 50s.

What a mess Niakhate signed up for.

And got injured early. Shame.

I guess that's what happens when you chase the money sometimes.

[Foye]

I lowkey cheer for Forest just because they have no ad on their jersey, it is such a weird look, like you watching team from the 50s.

What a mess Niakhate signed up for.

And got injured early. Shame.

I guess that's what happens when you chase the money sometimes.

I don’t think he was chasing the money, though.
Probably just saw this as a team where it was going to be relatively easy to get a foot in the door in the Premier League and become starting CB.

He has direct example from Mateta how you can bury your career if you choose the wrong team.

[HIF]

What a mess Niakhate signed up for.

And got injured early. Shame.

I guess that's what happens when you chase the money sometimes.

I don’t think he was chasing the money, though.
Probably just saw this as a team where it was going to be relatively easy to get a foot in the door in the Premier League and become starting CB.

He has direct example from Mateta how you can bury your career if you choose the wrong team.

Anyone who knows football who thought that Forest were not very,very,very likely to be relegated after 1 season must be crazy. He'll be getting experience in the championship next season.

[wco81]

BHA trailing 0-1 most of the game, gets it into the box often but they keep doing these little passes and never get a shot off.

For all the possession, 59%, they generate only a few more shots, 14 to 58and 4 to 3 on target.

[Baphomet]

Really good win. Brighton away is probably in the top 10 toughest fixtures of the season, and we looked defensively solid and dangerous going forward. Needed that after the NLD loss.

[HIF]

1 up lose 2-1.

Is Rodgers still here?

[wco81]

Arsenal keeps winning but they keep conceding.

I don't see how they don't concede at least 3 against City.

Pool dominated possession vs. Arsenal, probably not common for Arsenal's opponents so far.

[Shaazzam]

Man U made a bunch of mistakes but started to look a bit more fluid. Casemiro got burned on the goal but he and Eriksen look like they could be a good midfield pair. I was ok with Ten Hag keeping McTominay in until we had a bad game because it's tough to drop a guy when he is playing well.

**** Martial, always hurt. Useless.

[LDNMagic90]

Steven Gerrard is hands down the worst manager I’ve ever experienced at Villa. He literally has no plan and he pretty much admitted yesterday, by saying he expects moments of magic from our attacking players.

How about not selling all of our wingers if you want us to put crosses into the box, which by the way we only had one successful cross into the box in our game yesterday out of 18.

How about not stripping Mings of the captaincy and giving it to John McGinn.

How about changing your tactics that have not worked for 30 odd games now, the fact his former assistant Michael Beale who is now the manager of QPR came out and said Gerrard still calls him 3 times a week min for tactical advice says it all.

Gerrard needs to be a director of football or a pundit because this coaching thing is not working. Clearly Beale was the brains behind Gerrard and it’s evident. QPR look like they’ll get promoted this season and Villa look like they’ll get relegated.

There’s no excuse, we are against a 10 man Leeds and didn’t threaten them at all. Southampton we got a lucky goal, Nottingham Forest who are the worst team in the league currently we looked toothless. The same Nottingham Forest who have been conceding goals for fun we struggled to break down.

We are easy to play against, just get a goal and sit back because you know we aren’t doing ****.

Not long now before I can see the back of Gerrard.

[Shaazzam]

Steven Gerrard is hands down the worst manager I’ve ever experienced at Villa. He literally has no plan and he pretty much admitted yesterday, by saying he expects moments of magic from our attacking players.

How about not selling all of our wingers if you want us to put crosses into the box, which by the way we only had one successful cross into the box in our game yesterday out of 18.

How about not stripping Mings of the captaincy and giving it to John McGinn.

How about changing your tactics that have not worked for 30 odd games now, the fact his former assistant Michael Beale who is now the manager of QPR came out and said Gerrard still calls him 3 times a week min for tactical advice says it all.

Gerrard needs to be a director of football or a pundit because this coaching thing is not working. Clearly Beale was the brains behind Gerrard and it’s evident. QPR look like they’ll get promoted this season and Villa look like they’ll get relegated.

There’s no excuse, we are against a 10 man Leeds and didn’t threaten them at all. Southampton we got a lucky goal, Nottingham Forest who are the worst team in the league currently we looked toothless. The same Nottingham Forest who have been conceding goals for fun we struggled to break down.

We are easy to play against, just get a goal and sit back because you know we aren’t doing ****.

Not long now before I can see the back of Gerrard.

[LDNMagic90]

Steven Gerrard is hands down the worst manager I’ve ever experienced at Villa. He literally has no plan and he pretty much admitted yesterday, by saying he expects moments of magic from our attacking players.

How about not selling all of our wingers if you want us to put crosses into the box, which by the way we only had one successful cross into the box in our game yesterday out of 18.

How about not stripping Mings of the captaincy and giving it to John McGinn.

How about changing your tactics that have not worked for 30 odd games now, the fact his former assistant Michael Beale who is now the manager of QPR came out and said Gerrard still calls him 3 times a week min for tactical advice says it all.

Gerrard needs to be a director of football or a pundit because this coaching thing is not working. Clearly Beale was the brains behind Gerrard and it’s evident. QPR look like they’ll get promoted this season and Villa look like they’ll get relegated.

There’s no excuse, we are against a 10 man Leeds and didn’t threaten them at all. Southampton we got a lucky goal, Nottingham Forest who are the worst team in the league currently we looked toothless. The same Nottingham Forest who have been conceding goals for fun we struggled to break down.

We are easy to play against, just get a goal and sit back because you know we aren’t doing ****.

Not long now before I can see the back of Gerrard.

Ah man but I was told about his ‘aura’ and that’s why he’d be a good manager. Sigh.

[wco81]

Is that the manager or the director who makes decisions on which players to sell and which players to buy?

[LDNMagic90]

Is that the manager or the director who makes decisions on which players to sell and which players to buy?

Varies from club to club, but generally the modern football structure has a director of football that makes the signings. Similar to I guess a GM in basketball, most directors of football will come together with the manager and chief scouts/analysts and sound out players they would like and you meet in the middle. Some clubs solely leave the director of football to deal with it, others you get a mix of opinions.

However it’s key that both the manager and the director of football are on the same page, as the director of football makes the signings happen for the managers philosophy of what they want from the team.

[wco81]

Is that the manager or the director who makes decisions on which players to sell and which players to buy?

Varies from club to club, but generally the modern football structure has a director of football that makes the signings. Similar to I guess a GM in basketball, most directors of football will come together with the manager and chief scouts/analysts and sound out players they would like and you meet in the middle. Some clubs solely leave the director of football to deal with it, others you get a mix of opinions.

However it’s key that both the manager and the director of football are on the same page, as the director of football makes the signings happen for the managers philosophy of what they want from the team.

I would think a big name manager would have more say than say a first-time manager.

Plus you only ever see managers representing the club. The director is more behind the scenes.

The All or Nothing series do show directors working behind the scenes to make big personnel moves and such but they also feature the manager a lot more.

Then of course there's the owner, who has to be willing to sign the checks, especially clubs which have a big payroll and pay a lot of big transfer fees.

Someone like Pep has a bigger say than someone like the new guy at Chelsea. He's going to have to show improvement during the rest of the season for the club to probably listen to his ideas for the summer transfers.

Though there's no great genius in City's signings, just sign the best players every summer, outspend everyone.

[LDNMagic90]

Is that the manager or the director who makes decisions on which players to sell and which players to buy?

Varies from club to club, but generally the modern football structure has a director of football that makes the signings. Similar to I guess a GM in basketball, most directors of football will come together with the manager and chief scouts/analysts and sound out players they would like and you meet in the middle. Some clubs solely leave the director of football to deal with it, others you get a mix of opinions.

However it’s key that both the manager and the director of football are on the same page, as the director of football makes the signings happen for the managers philosophy of what they want from the team.

I would think a big name manager would have more say than say a first-time manager.

Plus you only ever see managers representing the club. The director is more behind the scenes.

The All or Nothing series do show directors working behind the scenes to make big personnel moves and such but they also feature the manager a lot more.

Then of course there's the owner, who has to be willing to sign the checks, especially clubs which have a big payroll and pay a lot of big transfer fees.

Someone like Pep has a bigger say than someone like the new guy at Chelsea. He's going to have to show improvement during the rest of the season for the club to probably listen to his ideas for the summer transfers.

Though there's no great genius in City's signings, just sign the best players every summer, outspend everyone.

I might be a bit wrong on this but I don’t think a Director of Football really impact things on a board level per say, again depending on the club and their structure. However you bringing up City makes a good point, City have a Director of Football however when you have a manager like Pep they’ll more likely listen to what Pep has to say over whoever their DoF is.

Director of Football generally do operate behind the scenes as they are the ones in contact with agents, scouts, analysts, the board, the manager and even players.

If you look at PSGs current structure in theory they have your ideal structure (Chelsea as well). Where you have your first team coach/manager/head coach (Potter and Galtier) and they 70% of the time will focus in what’s happening on the pitch. Instilling philosophies, working with the youth teams so they follow the same philosophies etc. Then a DoF like Luis Campos (in psgs case) will be the one relaying a concern from the manager, whether that be improvements on a position etc to the board and recruitment team. Then DoF will present names and come together with the manager to decide on a target.

In theory it seems fun but I can only imagine what it’s like especially during the transfer windows, they probably barely sleep.

[wco81]

Sometimes on TV you can kind of see the influence directors have. Actually it seems a lot of clubs have technical and general directors.

Technical guys are pure player personnel and general directors seem to be the one who deals with the business side, like contracts, transfer fees.

A few years ago, Roma hired a technical director who had been at Sevilla and I don't think he spoke Italian at first but he got them a couple of players whom he had been tracking when he was at Sevilla.

Similarly, the Arsenal technical director is Edu Gaspar, a former Brazilian footballer. He was shown a couple of times on the All or Nothing show. I wonder if he had some connections that helped them sign Martinelli.

So technical directors are pure talent evaluators and presumably work with managers to identify talent as well as fit for the manager's system.

[HIF]

Steven Gerrard is hands down the worst manager I’ve ever experienced at Villa. He literally has no plan and he pretty much admitted yesterday, by saying he expects moments of magic from our attacking players.

How about not selling all of our wingers if you want us to put crosses into the box, which by the way we only had one successful cross into the box in our game yesterday out of 18.

How about not stripping Mings of the captaincy and giving it to John McGinn.

How about changing your tactics that have not worked for 30 odd games now, the fact his former assistant Michael Beale who is now the manager of QPR came out and said Gerrard still calls him 3 times a week min for tactical advice says it all.

Gerrard needs to be a director of football or a pundit because this coaching thing is not working. Clearly Beale was the brains behind Gerrard and it’s evident. QPR look like they’ll get promoted this season and Villa look like they’ll get relegated.

There’s no excuse, we are against a 10 man Leeds and didn’t threaten them at all. Southampton we got a lucky goal, Nottingham Forest who are the worst team in the league currently we looked toothless. The same Nottingham Forest who have been conceding goals for fun we struggled to break down.

We are easy to play against, just get a goal and sit back because you know we aren’t doing ****.

Not long now before I can see the back of Gerrard.

You need to play us. We could go 2 goals up and you'd still win.

But not beating Forest is pretty low.

[LDNMagic90]

Steven Gerrard is hands down the worst manager I’ve ever experienced at Villa. He literally has no plan and he pretty much admitted yesterday, by saying he expects moments of magic from our attacking players.

How about not selling all of our wingers if you want us to put crosses into the box, which by the way we only had one successful cross into the box in our game yesterday out of 18.

How about not stripping Mings of the captaincy and giving it to John McGinn.

How about changing your tactics that have not worked for 30 odd games now, the fact his former assistant Michael Beale who is now the manager of QPR came out and said Gerrard still calls him 3 times a week min for tactical advice says it all.

Gerrard needs to be a director of football or a pundit because this coaching thing is not working. Clearly Beale was the brains behind Gerrard and it’s evident. QPR look like they’ll get promoted this season and Villa look like they’ll get relegated.

There’s no excuse, we are against a 10 man Leeds and didn’t threaten them at all. Southampton we got a lucky goal, Nottingham Forest who are the worst team in the league currently we looked toothless. The same Nottingham Forest who have been conceding goals for fun we struggled to break down.

We are easy to play against, just get a goal and sit back because you know we aren’t doing ****.

Not long now before I can see the back of Gerrard.

You need to play us. We could go 2 goals up and you'd still win.

But not beating Forest is pretty low.

We can’t even score a goal that isn’t a fluke or a wonder goal I’m sure you guys will be able to beat us pretty easily, Gerrard will set us up to get our guys to kick the **** out of your players though that’s the thing he likes to do with us. Considering when we had Smith we weren’t a particularly dirty team.

[Baphomet]

Steven Gerrard is hands down the worst manager I’ve ever experienced at Villa. He literally has no plan and he pretty much admitted yesterday, by saying he expects moments of magic from our attacking players.

How about not selling all of our wingers if you want us to put crosses into the box, which by the way we only had one successful cross into the box in our game yesterday out of 18.

How about not stripping Mings of the captaincy and giving it to John McGinn.

How about changing your tactics that have not worked for 30 odd games now, the fact his former assistant Michael Beale who is now the manager of QPR came out and said Gerrard still calls him 3 times a week min for tactical advice says it all.

Gerrard needs to be a director of football or a pundit because this coaching thing is not working. Clearly Beale was the brains behind Gerrard and it’s evident. QPR look like they’ll get promoted this season and Villa look like they’ll get relegated.

There’s no excuse, we are against a 10 man Leeds and didn’t threaten them at all. Southampton we got a lucky goal, Nottingham Forest who are the worst team in the league currently we looked toothless. The same Nottingham Forest who have been conceding goals for fun we struggled to break down.

We are easy to play against, just get a goal and sit back because you know we aren’t doing ****.

Not long now before I can see the back of Gerrard.

Amazing when you consider what a glittering career the man had at Liverpool, as far as much of the public is concerned all he's remembered for is this moment, the slip, and being a **** manager.