Is Facu Campazzo the worst player in the NBA?

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Re: Is Facu Campazzo the worst player in the NBA? 

Post#81 » by eathb_au » Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:47 am

AleksandarN wrote:Here is another breakdown. Of all of the players on Denver only Facu is a minus with Jokic. Minus 35 that's crazy. Why does he get minutes and holy crap Jokic makes others better

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I did my own table where I removed Jokic completely from the conversation and it still doesn't look good for Facu. Like yes the Nuggets bench are still bad but it is historically bad when Facu is on the court with them.

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Re: Is Facu Campazzo the worst player in the NBA? 

Post#82 » by Maf » Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:49 pm

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Sharkboy242 wrote:Malone is absolutely obsessed with this man

it's funny because argentinians keep hating malone because campazzo is not playing enough minutes :lol:

He's had the longest leash of any bench player on the team. Its absolutely ridiculous to try and make an argument that he needs more minutes. He's been given the benefit of the doubt time and time again this season and at this point people are calling on Malone to stop.

Maf wrote:Yep, those are my fellow Nuggets fans.

I admit he is terrible shooter. Almost all his shots are couple of feets wide open and he can't hit anything (37.6% FG, 31% 3pt). He is pass-first PG with very nice 3.3 A/TO ratio. He is also 2nd on Nuggets in total assists, 2nd in total steals and guess what, 4th in total blocks.

We have Austin Rivers on our bench who... does nothing. He can't shoot, can't pass, can't play defense can't... Whatever you name Austin can't do it. Rest of our bench is terrible, too. Like most reliable back up is second rounder who was three years out of the league. Yet somehow it is all Facu's fault.

But hey, not that long ago it was all about Will Barton who by those posters was the worst player in NBA and should be traded for future second rounder or waived.


Its wrong to try and frame the Nuggets as sucking because of Facu. While that's true, its also true that Facu as sucked this season. I dislike Rivers and even then its incredibly hard to try and argue he's been worse than Facu.



Can't see how it could be hard. Name me one thing you like about Austin and he does well.
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Re: Is Facu Campazzo the worst player in the NBA? 

Post#83 » by Maf » Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:02 pm

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Maf wrote:Yep, those are my fellow Nuggets fans.

I admit he is terrible shooter. Almost all his shots are couple of feets wide open and he can't hit anything (37.6% FG, 31% 3pt). He is pass-first PG with very nice 3.3 A/TO ratio. He is also 2nd on Nuggets in total assists, 2nd in total steals and guess what, 4th in total blocks.

We have Austin Rivers on our bench who... does nothing. He can't shoot, can't pass, can't play defense can't... Whatever you name Austin can't do it. Rest of our bench is terrible, too. Like most reliable back up is second rounder who was three years out of the league. Yet somehow it is all Facu's fault.

But hey, not that long ago it was all about Will Barton who by those posters was the worst player in NBA and should be traded for future second rounder or waived.


Your right, I mean how could all of us Nuggets fans miss all those championship banners we have hanging from the last few years. Of course none of your stats show how the defense and the bench is better with Campazzo on the bench, while it actually gets better with Rivers on the court. I know you are a European fan, but that does not make the truth go away.

I like how you bring up Barton, are you going to try to argue that he is a good fit with Murray? Are you going to argue that his hero ball has not cost the team dozens of games over the years? Or are you just going to be a European homer and attack Nuggets fans?



Oh yeah. There are many many stats. Those usual like DPM, DBPM, WS, DWS, PER, VORP, DRtg, each of them shows Austin as the worst and Facu in 4th-6th on our roster. I am sure you'll find some that say otherwise. That's fun the stats. You can always find some that support you.

There is a lot in your post that amazes me. Like dozens games that Barton lost. Dozens? Thousands! (For others reading this. This is excactly what I wrote about. Those posters needs their scapegoat to blame.) I will be satisfied if you can answer me just one, ONE question. Please. What do you mean by that European homer and what has it common with Facu? I am sure you've heard he is Argentinian. That means from country Argentina. Have you ever seen World map?
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Re: Is Facu Campazzo the worst player in the NBA? 

Post#84 » by DrCoach » Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:24 pm

according to PER of players 20 mins or more

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Post#85 » by JJ_PR » Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:50 pm

eathb_au wrote:Is Facu Campazzo the worst player in the NBA?


Judging by those numbers you posted, he's without a doubt the worst player in the NBA. He's not the first, or even second option on offense. He should be putting better percentages than that.
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Re: Is Facu Campazzo the worst player in the NBA? 

Post#86 » by Calvin Klein » Sat Feb 5, 2022 2:48 am

So is he out of the rotation for good now?
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Post#87 » by JRoy » Sat Feb 5, 2022 2:49 am

Hezonja is out of the league so the worst player slot is open.
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Re: Is Facu Campazzo the worst player in the NBA? 

Post#88 » by Mavrelous » Wed Oct 12, 2022 1:15 am

There is 100% correlation between Campazzu being on a team and said team's best player winning MVP, oh, and teh Mavs are in advanced talks to sign this dirty mofo, be very afraid.
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Re: Is Facu Campazzo the worst player in the NBA? 

Post#89 » by HotRocks34 » Wed Oct 12, 2022 1:23 am

The Mavs passed up Dragic to get Facu.

Man, that hurts.

Facu is short and he can't shoot.

He can run a team, though. He can handle and play-make. He's good at that.

I guess the white flag has been waved on having Green or Frank be the third play-maker. That didn't take long.

Mavs, IMO, whiffed on Brunson and then Dragic. They need to get it together moving forward. I do think they got it right with Porzingis, though.
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Post#90 » by Exp0sed » Wed Oct 12, 2022 1:38 am

HotRocks34 wrote:The Mavs passed up Dragic to get Facu.

Man, that hurts.

Facu is short and he can't shoot.

He can run a team, though. He can handle and play-make. He's good at that.

I guess the white flag has been waved on having Green or Frank be the third play-maker. That didn't take long.

Mavs, IMO, whiffed on Brunson and then Dragic. They need to get it together moving forward. I do think they got it right with Porzingis, though.


Facu can't "play-make" srry to say
He can pass, that's def one aspect of play-making but that's it.

terrible signing really, there are no two ways about this - Facu isn't an NBA level player not even as a 3rd string PG

Mavs rly signed him? awful..
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Re: Is Facu Campazzo the worst player in the NBA? 

Post#91 » by TwitterFingers » Wed Oct 12, 2022 1:39 am

He’ll be ahead of Ntilikina in the rotation, and rightfully so
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Post#92 » by agentofatlas » Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:03 am

Mavs really dropped the ball on not getting Dragic or Scroder.
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Post#93 » by UcanUwill » Wed Oct 12, 2022 9:35 am

So much hate for my guy. Facu redemption season incoming, man is all time great Argentinian. Having Facundo as off ball 3 point spotter with Jokic on the court made as much sense as having prime Tim Duncan spotting at corner 3, yeah, he can sometimes hit it, but its the least efficient way to play the guy.
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Post#94 » by lambchop » Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:02 am

UcanUwill wrote:So much hate for my guy. Facu redemption season incoming, man is all time great Argentinian. Having Facundo as off ball 3 point spotter with Jokic on the court made as much sense as having prime Tim Duncan spotting at corner 3, yeah, he can sometimes hit it, but its the least efficient way to play the guy.


He's an all time great Argentinian because Argentina hasn't had that many good players in total. And he's still probably the worst out of that group, despite being the best Argentinian right now.
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Post#95 » by lambchop » Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:06 am

HotRocks34 wrote:The Mavs passed up Dragic to get Facu.

Man, that hurts.

Facu is short and he can't shoot.

He can run a team, though. He can handle and play-make. He's good at that.

I guess the white flag has been waved on having Green or Frank be the third play-maker. That didn't take long.

Mavs, IMO, whiffed on Brunson and then Dragic. They need to get it together moving forward. I do think they got it right with Porzingis, though.


This signing probably has more to do with keeping Luka happy. Dragic was gonna get picked up by a team anyway. But Luka and Campazzo played together for a couple of years so and know each other from when Luka was very very young.

Nowadays a lot of teams have those kind of "let me do you a favour" contracts:
Hornets - LiAngelo Ball
Bucks - Thanasis
Mavs - Campazzo
Heat - Udonis "still got 3-5 more years left in the tank" Haslem
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Post#96 » by lambchop » Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:15 am

UcanUwill wrote:By the way, if I know my Italian, I am pretty sure Campazzo is Italian name, so pronouncing it, there is no z sounds, most people just say his name with z, but those zz should make a ''ts' sounds, like in pizza for example.


Yea, but that's not how Argentinians pronounce his name. Many Argentinians have Italian great-grandparents, but using the Italian pronunciation is pretty uncommon in South America. Though they do make some exceptions with names like "Chiara" which they tend to pronounce the Italian way.
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Post#97 » by Calvin Klein » Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:56 am

We pronounce it “Campaso”
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Post#98 » by Monky15 » Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:07 am

How does he stack up vs 60yo Stockton?
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Post#99 » by Godymas » Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:40 am

Campazzo, he was an essential peace on the best team in Euroleague with a 16 year old Luka Doncic

in the NBA he's hardly a starter and pound for pound considered one of the worst in the NBA

the difference in talent level is staggerring
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Post#100 » by Gusto1903 » Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:08 pm

lambchop wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:By the way, if I know my Italian, I am pretty sure Campazzo is Italian name, so pronouncing it, there is no z sounds, most people just say his name with z, but those zz should make a ''ts' sounds, like in pizza for example.


Yea, but that's not how Argentinians pronounce his name. Many Argentinians have Italian great-grandparents, but using the Italian pronunciation is pretty uncommon in South America. Though they do make some exceptions with names like "Chiara" which they tend to pronounce the Italian way.


Ezequiel Lavezzi was pronounced Lavetsi aswell tho
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