Draymond Green striking Jordan Poole at practice

[cpower]

lol @ not punishing Draymond being 'good of the team'

if we win again this year yeah its good for the team..

and if we don't?

if we dont , is the problem on D or O? if our defense is solid but we cant get the offense going then its not Draymond's problem.

[clyde21]

if we win again this year yeah its good for the team..

and if we don't?

if we dont , is the problem on D or O? if our defense is solid but we cant get the offense going then its not Draymond's problem.

so if we lose, it has nothing to do with this, but if we win, it does? got it.

[cpower]

and if we don't?

if we dont , is the problem on D or O? if our defense is solid but we cant get the offense going then its not Draymond's problem.

so if we lose, it has nothing to do with this, but if we win, it does? got it.

you did not read my comment did you

[clyde21]

if we dont , is the problem on D or O? if our defense is solid but we cant get the offense going then its not Draymond's problem.

so if we lose, it has nothing to do with this, but if we win, it does? got it.

you did not read my comment did you

i just did for the 3rd time, still doesnt make sense.

[cpower]

so if we lose, it has nothing to do with this, but if we win, it does? got it.

you did not read my comment did you

i just did for the 3rd time, still doesnt make sense.

read it once every day until the season ends then

[a8bil]

I really don't care if he was suspended. If the team (notably Poole) is okay with it, I'm okay with it.

What I *do* think would be good is if he got some help. Even at this stage of his career he can't control his emotions, and it periodically hurts him, his teammates, or the team. That whole documentary "The Sessions" with Draymond was cute, but hard to see that it really reflected any growth or change. I'd like it if there was an after school special moment where Poole said, "Look, I was being a bit of a jerk. And I shouldn't have shoved you. But dude. You seriously punched me. Your teammate. I can try to put this behind us, but I'm worried about you. Get some help. Learn how to manage those emotions."

I agree, but because that is a mental health issue with Draymond, it is something private that the broader public will never know about (unless the same snitch breaches confidence), and should not know about unless Draymond chooses to disclose it. I hope Draymond does get help, because by his own actions he continues to tarnish a reputation that would otherwise be pretty stellar. But, I just don't get the feeling that Draymond could perceive his (overre-) actions are not justified.

[a8bil]

you did not read my comment did you

i just did for the 3rd time, still doesnt make sense.

read it once every day until the season ends then

That made me chuckle. You know, not that my opinion matters, but you have become a better poster over time. Kudos.

[Chris Porter's Hair]

I really don't care if he was suspended. If the team (notably Poole) is okay with it, I'm okay with it.

What I *do* think would be good is if he got some help. Even at this stage of his career he can't control his emotions, and it periodically hurts him, his teammates, or the team. That whole documentary "The Sessions" with Draymond was cute, but hard to see that it really reflected any growth or change. I'd like it if there was an after school special moment where Poole said, "Look, I was being a bit of a jerk. And I shouldn't have shoved you. But dude. You seriously punched me. Your teammate. I can try to put this behind us, but I'm worried about you. Get some help. Learn how to manage those emotions."

I agree, but because that is a mental health issue with Draymond, it is something private that the broader public will never know about (unless the same snitch breaches confidence), and should not know about unless Draymond chooses to disclose it. I hope Draymond does get help, because by his own actions he continues to tarnish a reputation that would otherwise be pretty stellar. But, I just don't get the feeling that Draymond could perceive his (overre-) actions are not justified.

Well, I said it would be good if it happened. Not necessarily, "It would be good if he got help and gave me regular progress updates."

[clyde21]

you did not read my comment did you

i just did for the 3rd time, still doesnt make sense.

read it once every day until the season ends then

and it'll still make no fkn sense.

[osx28]

At the end of the day though, all that matters is how JP feels. If he's ok to move forward, then who are any of us to disagree?

again, you have no idea if Jordan is actually okay with it or not. he could be saying all the right things just to seem like the bigger man or doesn't want to seem like a bitch if he asks for Dray to be punished in front of his teammates.

the people with the levers of power have to actually draw a line themselves. that shouldn't be up to Poole. because Poole, or any other man, will not run to Myers/Kerr in that scenario to get Dray suspended. he'll just pretend everything is good because that's the code.

You are right, but they didn't do it before the leak so they missed their chance of suspending him without looking like fools when they're caving to public pressure. IMO FO had no choice but to stick to their guns and definitely hid behind JP. You are right about all of that.

However, you are also right that none of us have any idea of how Jordan truly feels. Not you nor I, no one except JP himself. However, Poole doesn't have to love draymond or be ok with him ever again at all to recognize that him missing games will impact their chances of repeating as champs. He also knows he's about to get a giant bag of cash from the FO and chances are he'll be a Warriors long after Draymond is gone.
He might not be ok with how the team handled the situation, but there's 130 million reasons he'd be willing to put this whole mess behind him.
So I can take him at his word that he's ready to move on because I think he is a very mature and intelligent young man who can see the bigger picture here. What were his options? Demand draymond get the suspension he deserves and risk losing multiple games, further poison the locker room and reduce their chances at another chip? Get mad at FO for not handling it themselves so he's not goint to sign his new deal? If I were him I wouldn't forgive or forget, but I would certainly do as he reportedly is doing and choose what's best for the team. Which means I put it all behind and move on

To be fair we haven't heard his actual words, we heard from Kerr, but if JP comes out and says the same thing. His word is more valuable than your or my speculation.

[Crazy-Canuck]

I dont think a suspension would work on draymond. It hasn't before, it's just rest days that he would look forward to. In his head, he probably prefers a suspension just so he can think he's been absolved because he paid the fine or took the suspension.

Now, he needs to deal with it. He needs to look into the eyes of his teammates every day and figure out how to make it better. He needs to regain the trust of his teammates, especially from steph. And that will take more time and work than an actual suspension.

[DevinVassell]

Draymond doesn't need help. He doesn't need to be saved. He doesn't have mental or emotional problems.

He is just a **** who put his ego before the team... and it's not the first time.

He couldn't handle someone younger than him questioning his authority. So he hit him. Just insecure and ego first and thinks he can get away with it because he has been on the team forever. And obviously he can get away with it. Imagine if Kuminga or Wiseman king hit someone like that out of the blue. Massive double standard.

Any self-respecting franchise would have suspended him 10 games, sent a message that it's not acceptable no matter who you are and moved on. Any self-respecting player would have accepted it.

But whatever... onwards. Draymond can still eff himself.

[Big J]

I don't think Draymond cares about the team anymore. He knows that this is his last chance for a payday in free agency, and to be honest he is probably secretly annoyed that Curry has the same amount of rings as Lebron as dumb as that sounds.

[cdubbz]

I don't think Draymond cares about the team anymore. He knows that this is his last chance for a payday in free agency, and to be honest he is probably secretly annoyed that Curry has the same amount of rings as Lebron as dumb as that sounds.

lol.

Draymond loving Lebron is a funny narrative. its so true

[SpreeS]

This is KD story again. Our FO kissed KD ass on every corner, now are kissing Green ass….

[tarantism]

I don't think Draymond cares about the team anymore. He knows that this is his last chance for a payday in free agency, and to be honest he is probably secretly annoyed that Curry has the same amount of rings as Lebron as dumb as that sounds.

If he knows it's his last chance at a payday, he'll want to perform. Hell, maybe he'll even try to be in shape for most of the season.

I don't see a scenario where that doesn't benefit GSW.

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[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

The fine should go from Draymond to Jordan Poole. The team can't give money to Jordan Poole because of the salary cap. But Draymond can give money to Jordan Poole.

[xdrta+]

The fine should go from Draymond to Jordan Poole. The team can't give money to Jordan Poole because of the salary cap. But Draymond can give money to Jordan Poole.

Fines go to charities, it's in the CBA.

[GQ Hot Dog]

I don't know why half this board is so cynical about Draymond. I take him at his word that he knows he ef'd up. I think he's capable of understanding that he can't live his life throwing punches in response to confrontation. I think the vast majority of people are capable of coming to that conclusion. If you don't think so, it says more about you and the personal limitations you put on yourself than it does about Draymond.

[Old_Blue]

I don't know why half this board is so cynical about Draymond. I take him at his word that he knows he ef'd up. I think he's capable of understanding that he can't live his life throwing punches in response to confrontation. I think the vast majority of people are capable of coming to that conclusion. If you don't think so, it says more about you and the personal limitations you put on yourself than it does about Draymond.