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Preseason Game #5! Regular Season Dress Rehearsal vs Lowry’s Future Team?!

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Re: Preseason Game #5! Regular Season Dress Rehearsal vs Lowry’s Future Team?! 

Post#301 » by twix2500 » Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:42 am

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:The Yurt/Bam lineup was horrible lol


Gotta expect growing pains early. And Spo has never been able to coach big lineups.


I don't think Spo is comfortable reinventing much. The Y/B lineup is a changeup look, probably.

With Jovic emerging I can see Yurtseven being moved.

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Post#302 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:58 am

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Post#303 » by twix2500 » Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:13 am

Well ill make my next evaluation after the first 10 to 15 games.

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Post#304 » by oreon » Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:16 am

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ShulaDon92 wrote:
twix2500 wrote:
Gotta expect growing pains early. And Spo has never been able to coach big lineups.


I don't think Spo is comfortable reinventing much. The Y/B lineup is a changeup look, probably.

With Jovic emerging I can see Yurtseven being moved.

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Just because Spo doesn't play Yurt doesn't mean he's not versatile. Spo has changed this offense and defense plenty the past couple of seasons. We played 2 bigs when we had KO and Myers Leonard. Its not a mystery why he won't play two bigs. Bam is a non-shooter and Butler is a below average shooter. So, adding a 2nd big who kinda shoot kills the spacing. For the offense is better to have a wing who can shoot and also cut. Sure I'd like to Spo try Bam/Yur but if he doesn't, there are valid reasons as to why as rather than Spo isn't versatile. That makes no sense to considering how much this roster and offense has changed post big 3.
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Post#305 » by MorbidHEAT » Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:19 am

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twix2500 wrote:
ShulaDon92 wrote:
I don't think Spo is comfortable reinventing much. The Y/B lineup is a changeup look, probably.

With Jovic emerging I can see Yurtseven being moved.

It all depends on performance
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In Spo defense most coaches has a specialty. Few coaches are versatile. I mostly excepted with Spo who he is. I did have hope to see what happens if he has a full training camp with Bigs.

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Just because Spo doesn't play Yurt doesn't mean he's not versatile. Spo has changed this offense and defense plenty the past couple of seasons. We played 2 bigs when we had KO and Myers Leonard. Its not a mystery why he won't play two bigs. Bam is a non-shooter and Butler is a below average shooter. So, adding a 2nd big who kinda shoot kills the spacing. For the offense is better to have a wing who can shoot and also cut. Sure I'd like to Spo try Bam/Yur but if he doesn't, there are valid reasons as to why as rather than Spo isn't versatile. That makes no sense to considering how much this roster and offense has changed post big 3.


Makes more sense to run a big lineup with Jovic at the 4 and Bam at the 5.
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Post#306 » by oreon » Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:47 am

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twix2500 wrote:100%
In Spo defense most coaches has a specialty. Few coaches are versatile. I mostly excepted with Spo who he is. I did have hope to see what happens if he has a full training camp with Bigs.

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Just because Spo doesn't play Yurt doesn't mean he's not versatile. Spo has changed this offense and defense plenty the past couple of seasons. We played 2 bigs when we had KO and Myers Leonard. Its not a mystery why he won't play two bigs. Bam is a non-shooter and Butler is a below average shooter. So, adding a 2nd big who kinda shoot kills the spacing. For the offense is better to have a wing who can shoot and also cut. Sure I'd like to Spo try Bam/Yur but if he doesn't, there are valid reasons as to why as rather than Spo isn't versatile. That makes no sense to considering how much this roster and offense has changed post big 3.


Makes more sense to run a big lineup with Jovic at the 4 and Bam at the 5.


Yeah but I don't think Jovic starts this season. Eventually he will. I think next season for sure. Jovic and Bam duo is the future. But Spo generally doesn't give huge minutes to rookies in their first seasons. And with his conditioning, defense and other players needing minutes, I think Jovic will see limited game time to start. Hopefully Spo isn't too stubborn and plays him. For me I'd like to see him at at least 25 mins even it costs us some wins. As far I see Herro, Bam and Jovic have a lot of room to grow, if two or three of them can take massive leaps we can win a title even as Lowry/Butler decline. So the faster Jovic can develop the better
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Post#307 » by Wiltside » Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:51 am

Jovic will be on the outside looking in initially. Spo will go with vets early. I don’t expect to see a lot him unless we have injuries this year. I don’t agree with it, but that’s what I expect.

What’s exciting is we have Bam, Herro and Jovic under contract for a long time. That’s our young core. 25, 22 and 19 respectively with skill sets that should mesh excellently.

Give Jovic a year or two to get his body to a good level of conditioning, he and Bam will be an excellent duo.

I do agree that it may make Yurt expendable at some stage this season, given he’s in a contract year. I can see him being a sweetener in a deal that accepts Robinson. Deal would have to bring back a 4 who can play some 5 if necessary though.
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Post#308 » by abark » Thu Oct 13, 2022 8:18 am

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KingDavid wrote:That's the rotation. Probably Duncan and Max most nights.

I think Spo showed you what he’s going with for the starting lineup tonight. He’s rolling with Martin out the gate. Yurtseven most likely is the backuo big and will only be played with Bam depending on matchups.

You are probably right. I don't trust Spo to play big. But Martin brings nothing to the offense with the starters. He will be left open and I don't think he can thrive as primarily a spot up shooter every night. Defense will sag off him.

He shot 41.3% from three last year on 2.4 attempts per game. Both numbers were basically identical to what PJ put up, and they had our two biggest shooting percentages from 3.
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Post#309 » by contract » Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:09 am

oreon wrote:
twix2500 wrote:
ShulaDon92 wrote:
I don't think Spo is comfortable reinventing much. The Y/B lineup is a changeup look, probably.

With Jovic emerging I can see Yurtseven being moved.

It all depends on performance
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In Spo defense most coaches has a specialty. Few coaches are versatile. I mostly excepted with Spo who he is. I did have hope to see what happens if he has a full training camp with Bigs.

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Just because Spo doesn't play Yurt doesn't mean he's not versatile. Spo has changed this offense and defense plenty the past couple of seasons. We played 2 bigs when we had KO and Myers Leonard. Its not a mystery why he won't play two bigs. Bam is a non-shooter and Butler is a below average shooter. So, adding a 2nd big who kinda shoot kills the spacing. For the offense is better to have a wing who can shoot and also cut. Sure I'd like to Spo try Bam/Yur but if he doesn't, there are valid reasons as to why as rather than Spo isn't versatile. That makes no sense to considering how much this roster and offense has changed post big 3.

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Post#310 » by twix2500 » Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:11 am

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:I think Spo showed you what he’s going with for the starting lineup tonight. He’s rolling with Martin out the gate. Yurtseven most likely is the backuo big and will only be played with Bam depending on matchups.

You are probably right. I don't trust Spo to play big. But Martin brings nothing to the offense with the starters. He will be left open and I don't think he can thrive as primarily a spot up shooter every night. Defense will sag off him.

He shot 41.3% from three last year on 2.4 attempts per game. Both numbers were basically identical to what PJ put up, and they had our two biggest shooting percentages from 3.
When you watch Caleb last year did you really think of him as a shooter? The percentage he was knocking down treys did you think it would last? And do you think its something he can hold up at a higher volume. Because the role he is playing he will be presented primarily with a high volume of treys. I don't see Martin shooting that well ever again especially in a bigger shooting role.

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Post#311 » by ShulaDon92 » Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:18 am

Caleb showed off some sweet new post moves last night. Very impressive. Let's see if he can keep them in his repertoire throughout the whole campaign
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Post#312 » by contract » Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:26 am

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oreon wrote:
twix2500 wrote:100%
In Spo defense most coaches has a specialty. Few coaches are versatile. I mostly excepted with Spo who he is. I did have hope to see what happens if he has a full training camp with Bigs.

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Just because Spo doesn't play Yurt doesn't mean he's not versatile. Spo has changed this offense and defense plenty the past couple of seasons. We played 2 bigs when we had KO and Myers Leonard. Its not a mystery why he won't play two bigs. Bam is a non-shooter and Butler is a below average shooter. So, adding a 2nd big who kinda shoot kills the spacing. For the offense is better to have a wing who can shoot and also cut. Sure I'd like to Spo try Bam/Yur but if he doesn't, there are valid reasons as to why as rather than Spo isn't versatile. That makes no sense to considering how much this roster and offense has changed post big 3.


Makes more sense to run a big lineup with Jovic at the 4 and Bam at the 5.

You can't tell if a guy can play in this league based off of a few games. Especially a few practice games.

I'm old enough to remember Willie Burton going for 20+ points 3 times + a 17 point game in his first 6 regular season NBA games. We were excited. It was NOT indicative of his future.

And I shouldn't have to bring up the legend of James Ennis.

Lets wait and see if this kid can play when the real bullets start flying. And then lets wait to see if he can keep it up once defenses figure out his game.
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Post#313 » by ShulaDon92 » Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:42 am

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oreon wrote:
Just because Spo doesn't play Yurt doesn't mean he's not versatile. Spo has changed this offense and defense plenty the past couple of seasons. We played 2 bigs when we had KO and Myers Leonard. Its not a mystery why he won't play two bigs. Bam is a non-shooter and Butler is a below average shooter. So, adding a 2nd big who kinda shoot kills the spacing. For the offense is better to have a wing who can shoot and also cut. Sure I'd like to Spo try Bam/Yur but if he doesn't, there are valid reasons as to why as rather than Spo isn't versatile. That makes no sense to considering how much this roster and offense has changed post big 3.


Makes more sense to run a big lineup with Jovic at the 4 and Bam at the 5.

You can't tell if a guy can play in this league based off of a few games. Especially a few practice games.

I'm old enough to remember Willie Burton going for 20+ points 3 times + a 17 point game in his first 6 regular season NBA games. We were excited. It was NOT indicative of his future.

And I shouldn't have to bring up the legend of James Ennis.

Lets wait and see if this kid can play when the real bullets start flying. And then lets wait to see if he can keep it up once defenses figure out his game.


The difference with Jovic is that he's not just going off and scoring at will, trying to be an alpha. Burton was a guard and at the time we were mediocre and looking for a star. Any star.

Jovic is just big, passes well and is hitting deep open shots with gusto. At his height, he fits exactly with our group at a position of need. So it's exciting. Plus he has ample room to improve. His potential shines just by him being him.

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Post#314 » by ShulaDon92 » Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:44 am

I think Burton ended up scoring 50 points in a game for us before fading to obscurity, but he was not consistent.
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As expected. Knew Smith had the inside track for a 2-way when you heard Spo talking about how improved he was. He beat out the others - Bouyea would be the better scorer, but Smith looks more like a Heat player and what they want in their role playing guys.

Garrett and Bouyea should get plenty of burn in Sioux Falls to show their wares.
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Post#317 » by HeatFanLifer » Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:46 pm

Someone needs to make a regular season GT before Iggie steals it again. I would do it, but I used all my good GT gifs on the final two games as OP in the playoffs.
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Post#318 » by al bondiga » Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:56 pm

Yeah but I don't think Jovic starts this season. Eventually he will. I think next season for sure. Jovic and Bam duo is the future. But Spo generally doesn't give huge minutes to rookies in their first seasons. And with his conditioning, defense and other players needing minutes, I think Jovic will see limited game time to start. Hopefully Spo isn't too stubborn and plays him. For me I'd like to see him at at least 25 mins even it costs us some wins. As far I see Herro, Bam and Jovic have a lot of room to grow, if two or three of them can take massive leaps we can win a title even as Lowry/Butler decline. So the faster Jovic can develop the better[/quote]


Those 3 exactly... but I think we are giving jovic too much, he is a great pickup, a very good Prospect, but remember that he is only a prospect, he has only played preseason...Jovic has a long road ahead even to become an okay player in real time
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Post#319 » by al bondiga » Thu Oct 13, 2022 2:13 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:C Dedmon
PF Duncan
SF Strus
SG Oladipo
PG Vincent

This was by far the very worst lineup of the night.


A shame cause it has potential but Dipo is not on that level yet where he's like a Wade and can maximize the shooters by being completely dominant as a slasher
I have to say this...dipo doesn't have a chance to be even close to wade level, maybe he had some chances when he was 24, 25 or 26

And I'm not even the typical super Wade fan :D
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Post#320 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Oct 13, 2022 2:25 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:I think Spo showed you what he’s going with for the starting lineup tonight. He’s rolling with Martin out the gate. Yurtseven most likely is the backuo big and will only be played with Bam depending on matchups.

You are probably right. I don't trust Spo to play big. But Martin brings nothing to the offense with the starters. He will be left open and I don't think he can thrive as primarily a spot up shooter every night. Defense will sag off him.

He shot 41.3% from three last year on 2.4 attempts per game. Both numbers were basically identical to what PJ put up, and they had our two biggest shooting percentages from 3.


PLEASE leave Caleb open from 3 lol
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