Grant Williams Thread

[Parliament10]

The Celtics continue to have discussions with fourth-year forward Grant Williams’s camp about a contract extension ahead of Monday’s deadline, but nothing appears imminent. As of Thursday afternoon the two sides were essentially at a stalemate, a league source said, but that’s fairly common at this stage. Williams is believed to be seeking a four-year deal with an average annual salary of around $14 to 16 million, but the Celtics’ offers have fallen short.
Regardless, the source stressed Williams will remain an important part of the Celtics’ future whether he signs an extension now or becomes a restricted free agent next summer.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/10/13/sports/celtics-roster-noah-vonleh-broderic-thomas/

Give him the 4 years, $14 mil a year and call it a day.

Agreed. I think that he's worth at least $12.5/yr.
I'd give him a Scale, Starting around $12-13 in year 1, and Ending around $15-16 in year 4.

Something like:
Year 1 = $12 - ($13 w/incentives)
Year 2 = $13 - ($14 w/incentives)
Year 3 = $14 - ($15 w/incentives)
Year 4 = $15 - ($16 w/incentives)

[Feed Your Head]

What I’ve heard for months is he wants 4/64, they want 4/48. Everyone assumed they’d meet in the middle, with incentives. But Celtics aren’t budging, for whatever reason. Maybe they want to see him stay in great shape for another season before committing?

I bet they get it done though.

[Bohemian]

What I’ve heard for months is he wants 4/64, they want 4/48. Everyone assumed they’d meet in the middle, with incentives. But Celtics aren’t budging, for whatever reason. Maybe they want to see him stay in great shape for another season before committing?

I bet they get it done though.

Yeah, hopefully Brad offers 56/4 and Grant takes it.

[zoyathedestroya]

Grant's getting a ton of playing time with the Rob and Gallo injuries. Likely starts in games where Horford rests. So good bet on his part. A dozen teams will have cap space and even teams without cap space find a way to open up some. I think whatever Cs are offering now will still be there in the summer.

Unpopular opinion but I also wanted Horford extended for another two years. We still haven't found a replacement for him (it won't be easy to or it won't be the same without him).

[GoCeltics123]

What I’ve heard for months is he wants 4/64, they want 4/48. Everyone assumed they’d meet in the middle, with incentives. But Celtics aren’t budging, for whatever reason. Maybe they want to see him stay in great shape for another season before committing?

I bet they get it done though.

That makes sense, it could just be that Brad is taking the Ainge strategy here and is hardballing like hell to get what he wants. We saw Danny do the hard ball strategy with both Smart and Avery in the past and it pretty much worked out for him.

The thing that surprised me is B Robb and Jake Fischer acting like the deal had no shot of happening. Himmelsbach didn't sound like that (and he's probably the best source) but it was just kinda weird.

[zoyathedestroya]

4/48 is close to NT-MLE money in the summer. So yeah, Grant doesn't even need a team with cap space to give him what Cs are offering now.

It doesn't make sense for Cs to offer him something that low. He's well-worth keeping on slightly higher than MLE money but longer-term.

[Feed Your Head]

4/48 is close to NT-MLE money in the summer. So yeah, Grant doesn't even need a team with cap space to give him what Cs are offering now.

It doesn't make sense for Cs to offer him something that low. He's well-worth keeping on slightly higher than MLE money but longer-term.

It’s because analytics hate Grant!

Seriously though, I still think they settle on 4/54 or 55 with some incentives to get a bit higher.

[zoyathedestroya]

Grant's agent will just need to point to Larry Nance's extension and say Grant's not even in his mid-20s vs Nance being in his 30s when the extension kicks in. Grant also has a more reliable outside shot and his game is still expanding. He's also been a part of a Finals run including two game 7s where he was a key rotation player. Not to mention the positive vibes he brings in the locker room and support he gives the Boston community. Pay up, Wyc.

[Froob]

I don’t see the motive for Grant to take less than what he wants right now. His price tag should go up if he’s in shape and ready to go. And he probably won’t need to take incentives if he hits FA.

[Froob]

What I’ve heard for months is he wants 4/64, they want 4/48. Everyone assumed they’d meet in the middle, with incentives. But Celtics aren’t budging, for whatever reason. Maybe they want to see him stay in great shape for another season before committing?

I bet they get it done though.

How much in incentives can they do? I take it they’d want weight incentives? 235ish seems about where you want him. Maybe 240

[BK_2020]

I don’t see the motive for Grant to take less than what he wants right now. His price tag should go up if he’s in shape and ready to go. And he probably won’t need to take incentives if he hits FA.

Grant Williams in shape and ready to go is probably averaging about 8-4-1. He's also one of the worst defensive bigs in the league. I don't know if you guys know this, but Grant Williams isn't very good.

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I don’t see the motive for Grant to take less than what he wants right now. His price tag should go up if he’s in shape and ready to go. And he probably won’t need to take incentives if he hits FA.

Free insurance policy against drastic injury.

[Froob]

I don’t see the motive for Grant to take less than what he wants right now. His price tag should go up if he’s in shape and ready to go. And he probably won’t need to take incentives if he hits FA.

Free insurance policy against drastic injury.

Grant doesn't really get hurt, he's not really capable of doing anything athletic enough to result in a serious injury lol.

[Fencer reregistered]

I don’t see the motive for Grant to take less than what he wants right now. His price tag should go up if he’s in shape and ready to go. And he probably won’t need to take incentives if he hits FA.

Free insurance policy against drastic injury.

Grant doesn't really get hurt, he's not really capable of doing anything athletic enough to result in a serious injury lol.

Kendrick Perkins wasn't athletic either.

[jmr07019]

I don’t see the motive for Grant to take less than what he wants right now. His price tag should go up if he’s in shape and ready to go. And he probably won’t need to take incentives if he hits FA.

Grant Williams in shape and ready to go is probably averaging about 8-4-1. He's also one of the worst defensive bigs in the league. I don't know if you guys know this, but Grant Williams isn't very good.

How do the Celtics win with Jaylen and Grant stinking up the joint all the time?

[BK_2020]

I don’t see the motive for Grant to take less than what he wants right now. His price tag should go up if he’s in shape and ready to go. And he probably won’t need to take incentives if he hits FA.

Grant Williams in shape and ready to go is probably averaging about 8-4-1. He's also one of the worst defensive bigs in the league. I don't know if you guys know this, but Grant Williams isn't very good.

How do the Celtics win with Jaylen and Grant stinking up the joint all the time?

Tatum

[ballup]

I don’t see the motive for Grant to take less than what he wants right now. His price tag should go up if he’s in shape and ready to go. And he probably won’t need to take incentives if he hits FA.

Grant Williams in shape and ready to go is probably averaging about 8-4-1. He's also one of the worst defensive bigs in the league. I don't know if you guys know this, but Grant Williams isn't very good.

Grant would appreciate this kind of wrong confidence

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[Infinite Llamas]

The thing about Grant is that he needs to be surrounded by strong players around him if he’s going to make an impact. We saw him last night (preseason albeit) play at the end with the C-lineup against Toronto scrubs and he looked like the invisible man out there. He isn’t the kind of player that can dominate a game on either end, so he isn’t some role player that can take the next step if you put him on a bad team and hand him the keys. Teams know that he has potential to be an elite role player and not much more so that eliminates the bottom dwelling teams from looking to acquire him. We shouldn’t have too much trouble retaining him to be honest. I don’t see many teams lining up to throw money at him.

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[GoCeltics123]

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I'm not gonna lie, I'm really surprised the team is not budging on this and it could seriously backfire on them. All the reporters seem to indicate (outside of Himmelsbach) that it seems like the Celtics won't budge at all