Greatest Peaks Project (2022): #40 - 2015-16 Draymond Green

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Re: Greatest Peaks Project (2022): #40 

Post#21 » by falcolombardi » Fri Oct 14, 2022 10:24 pm

Right now i am actually thinkinh ginobili 2005 > reggie 95 due to defense, which i didnt expect to think

I would need to refresh my ginobili memories but i remember him as a plus defender and i love his offense too
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Re: Greatest Peaks Project (2022): #40 

Post#22 » by LA Bird » Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:41 pm

Here are the results for round 40

Winner: 16 Green

There were 8 voters in this round: Proxy, Samurai, AEnigma, trelos6, homecourtloss, falcolombardi, CharityStripe34, 70sFan

A total of 31 seasons received at least 1 vote: 00 Mourning, 15 Green, 16 Green, 17 Green, 20 Butler, 20 Doncic, 22 Butler, 22 Doncic, 67 Barry, 67 Thurmond, 68 Hawkins, 69 Barry, 69 Thurmond, 71 Frazier, 72 Frazier, 73 Frazier, 74 Lanier, 74 McAdoo, 75 Barry, 75 Gilmore, 75 Lanier, 75 McAdoo, 76 Gilmore, 76 McAdoo, 82 Moncrief, 83 Moncrief, 84 Moncrief, 94 Miller, 94 Mutombo, 95 Miller, 97 Hill

Top 10 seasons: 16 Green, 74 Lanier, 75 Gilmore, 22 Butler, 72 Frazier, 20 Butler, 71 Frazier, 73 Frazier, 94 Miller, 00 Mourning

H2H record (1 season per player)
16 Green: 0.630 (17-10)
74 Lanier: 0.613 (19-12)
75 Gilmore: 0.500 (12-12)
22 Butler: 0.478 (11-12)
72 Frazier: 0.458 (11-13)
00 Mourning: 0.400 (10-15)
94 Miller: 0.375 (9-15)
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Re: Greatest Peaks Project (2022): #40 

Post#23 » by AEnigma » Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:19 am

falcolombardi wrote:Right now i am actually thinkinh ginobili 2005 > reggie 95 due to defense, which i didnt expect to think

I would need to refresh my ginobili memories but i remember him as a plus defender and i love his offense too

I definitely take Manu per minute and per possession… but minutes are always what hold him back for me. Reggie was a 40 minutes a game postseason player in his prime. Manu’s highest minute averages for a series are 38.7 (2010 Suns), 36.5 (2005 Suns), and 36 (2005 Pistons). No other series crossing the 35-minute mark. He averages under 33 minutes a game in his postseason prime. Is he worth that much more then Reggie? I mean, maybe, but it makes it a much tougher question. I guess 2005 helps a little with him at least showing he could hit 36 minutes a game against tough teams, but that is still a fair bit shy of Reggie.

EDIT — In the event anyone in the future is reading this specific thread and feeling confused by the Draymond pick, I am including a link to reasoning that could have been used to justify the vote:
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=2231758&p=101543086#p101543086
MyUniBroDavis wrote:Some people are clearly far too overreliant on data without context and look at good all in one or impact numbers and get wowed by that rather than looking at how a roster is actually built around a player

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