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Are we done making moves?

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Re: Are we done making moves? 

Post#141 » by KGdaBom » Sat Oct 15, 2022 7:06 pm

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IceManBK1 wrote:Derrick Favors waived.. We should pick him up. In fact waive some players and sign both moe harkless and favors we need all the good defenders we can get.


Please finish the thought. You talked about who to pick up. Who do we cut to make it work?

Eric paschall? Josh Minott?

Cutting Minott would be flat out insanity.
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Re: Are we done making moves? 

Post#142 » by wolves_89 » Sun Oct 16, 2022 12:44 am

I wonder if the Wiggins extension makes a DLO extension more likely. I'm hoping DLO looks at the yearly number and realizes that his next contract (or extension) is likely to be fairly similar.
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Re: Are we done making moves? 

Post#143 » by winforlose » Sun Oct 16, 2022 1:16 am

wolves_89 wrote:I wonder if the Wiggins extension makes a DLO extension more likely. I'm hoping DLO looks at the yearly number and realizes that his next contract (or extension) is likely to be fairly similar.


Dlo needs to look in the mirror and ask himself “who am I really?” I mean, he hasn’t been an all star since his Nets days (even then he was a reserve.) He has never been all NBA. His shooting and defense are far from elite. All of this does not make him bad, but it does mean he is not a good max candidate. He is right around the value of guys like FVV and Brunson. He might be able to squeeze out a little more, but that will also raise expectations and increase criticism of his game. I think Dlo will probably make around 30 because we are desperate, but he is probably worth no more than 25-26.
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Re: Are we done making moves? 

Post#144 » by fattymcgee » Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:56 am

KGdaBom wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Please finish the thought. You talked about who to pick up. Who do we cut to make it work?

Eric paschall? Josh Minott?

Cutting Minott would be flat out insanity.


I agree.
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Re: Are we done making moves? 

Post#145 » by Neeva » Sun Oct 16, 2022 4:51 am

wolves_89 wrote:I wonder if the Wiggins extension makes a DLO extension more likely. I'm hoping DLO looks at the yearly number and realizes that his next contract (or extension) is likely to be fairly similar.


It should be significantly less.
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Re: Are we done making moves? 

Post#146 » by winforlose » Sun Oct 16, 2022 4:57 am

Neeva wrote:
wolves_89 wrote:I wonder if the Wiggins extension makes a DLO extension more likely. I'm hoping DLO looks at the yearly number and realizes that his next contract (or extension) is likely to be fairly similar.


It should be significantly less.


Define significantly less?
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Re: Are we done making moves? 

Post#147 » by karch34 » Sun Oct 16, 2022 6:00 am

winforlose wrote:
wolves_89 wrote:I wonder if the Wiggins extension makes a DLO extension more likely. I'm hoping DLO looks at the yearly number and realizes that his next contract (or extension) is likely to be fairly similar.


Dlo needs to look in the mirror and ask himself “who am I really?” I mean, he hasn’t been an all star since his Nets days (even then he was a reserve.) He has never been all NBA. His shooting and defense are far from elite. All of this does not make him bad, but it does mean he is not a good max candidate. He is right around the value of guys like FVV and Brunson. He might be able to squeeze out a little more, but that will also raise expectations and increase criticism of his game. I think Dlo will probably make around 30 because we are desperate, but he is probably worth no more than 25-26.


I want 20-22 but think it will be 25-27 on a 3-4 year. Neither side is totally happy so probably good deal.
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Re: Are we done making moves? 

Post#148 » by Nick K » Sun Oct 16, 2022 1:30 pm

By Chris Hine Star Tribune OCTOBER 15, 2022 — 4:02PM

The Timberwolves roster appears set after a series of moves on Saturday.

Placed on waivers were forward C.J. Elleby and guards A.J. Lawson and P.J. Dozier.

Elleby was signed as a free agent after playing the past two seasons with Portland. Dozier was with Denver the past three seasons, playing in 97 games with six starts. Lawson had been signed to a two-way deal after playing for Dallas' summer league team.

The Wolves confirmed former Iowa center Luka Garza, who was with Detroit last season, had his Exhibit 10 contract converted to a two-way deal after a strong preseason. Teams are allowed two players on two-way deals; Eric Paschall is the other Wolf on a two-way.

The team also signed three players — forward Philip Wheeler and guards Emmanuel Mudiay and Matt Lewis — then waived them. Assuming they clear waivers, they will likely be assigned to Iowa of the G League.

Mudiay has played in six NBA seasons with the Nuggets, Knicks, Jazz and Kings. He was on the NBA all-rookie second team in 2015-16 after averaging 12.8 points with Denver. He spent part of last season playing in Lithuania.

Wheeler was in the G League with Rio Grande Valley last season. Lewis played in Iowa last year, averaging 11.1 points in 32 games.

All that means the Wolves' 15-man roster should be set for Wednesday's season opener. The roster includes guards Anthony Edwards, Bryn Forbes, Jordan McLaughlin, D'Angelo Russell, Wendell Moore, Austin Rivers and Jaylen Nowell; forwards Kyle Anderson, Taurean Prince, Jaden McDaniels, Nathan Knight and Josh Minott; and centers Karl-Anthony Towns, Naz Reid and Rudy Gobert.

In expected moves, the Wolves exercised fourth-year options on Edwards and McDaniels.

Chris Hine is the Timberwolves reporter at the Star Tribune.
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I think they made all the right moves. I liked PJ Dozier. He was my only regret. We are loaded with G-League talent. Mudiay must have something left for us to give him a look. Let's hope we start better than the MN Wild.
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Re: Are we done making moves? 

Post#149 » by winforlose » Sun Oct 16, 2022 1:38 pm

Nick K wrote:By Chris Hine Star Tribune OCTOBER 15, 2022 — 4:02PM

The Timberwolves roster appears set after a series of moves on Saturday.

Placed on waivers were forward C.J. Elleby and guards A.J. Lawson and P.J. Dozier.

Elleby was signed as a free agent after playing the past two seasons with Portland. Dozier was with Denver the past three seasons, playing in 97 games with six starts. Lawson had been signed to a two-way deal after playing for Dallas' summer league team.

The Wolves confirmed former Iowa center Luka Garza, who was with Detroit last season, had his Exhibit 10 contract converted to a two-way deal after a strong preseason. Teams are allowed two players on two-way deals; Eric Paschall is the other Wolf on a two-way.

The team also signed three players — forward Philip Wheeler and guards Emmanuel Mudiay and Matt Lewis — then waived them. Assuming they clear waivers, they will likely be assigned to Iowa of the G League.

Mudiay has played in six NBA seasons with the Nuggets, Knicks, Jazz and Kings. He was on the NBA all-rookie second team in 2015-16 after averaging 12.8 points with Denver. He spent part of last season playing in Lithuania.

Wheeler was in the G League with Rio Grande Valley last season. Lewis played in Iowa last year, averaging 11.1 points in 32 games.

All that means the Wolves' 15-man roster should be set for Wednesday's season opener. The roster includes guards Anthony Edwards, Bryn Forbes, Jordan McLaughlin, D'Angelo Russell, Wendell Moore, Austin Rivers and Jaylen Nowell; forwards Kyle Anderson, Taurean Prince, Jaden McDaniels, Nathan Knight and Josh Minott; and centers Karl-Anthony Towns, Naz Reid and Rudy Gobert.

In expected moves, the Wolves exercised fourth-year options on Edwards and McDaniels.

Chris Hine is the Timberwolves reporter at the Star Tribune.
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I think they made all the right moves. I liked PJ Dozier. He was my only regret. We are loaded with G-League talent. Mudiay must have something left for us to give him a look. Let's hope we start better than the MN Wild.


I am pretty sure it was Klomp who pointed out that PJ can join later. I think the issue is he is not fully back from the ACL. If by December PJ is playing at his usual level in Iowa I could see us trading or cutting Rivers or Knight for him, (they are both partially guarenteed.)

I am also pretty sure we are not done making moves. I do think it could take a while for the next one. But I don’t see us keeping Naz past the trade deadline. I also think we could be active in the buyout market and get a significant upgrade over Knight. Now, for the Knight fans, we could cut Paschall if he doesn’t get back into shape and return Knight to a two way to keep him with the team. A lot depends on health, our record at the deadline, and the available talent.
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Re: Are we done making moves? 

Post#150 » by BlacJacMac » Sun Oct 16, 2022 4:28 pm

Nick K wrote:By Chris Hine Star Tribune OCTOBER 15, 2022 — 4:02PM

I think they made all the right moves. I liked PJ Dozier. He was my only regret. We are loaded with G-League talent. Mudiay must have something left for us to give him a look. Let's hope we start better than the MN Wild.


Could also be a familiarity thing. Connelly was in Denver for Mudiay's 3 seasons there.
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Re: Are we done making moves? 

Post#151 » by shrink » Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:15 pm

Nick K wrote:By Chris Hine Star Tribune OCTOBER 15, 2022 — 4:02PM

The Timberwolves roster appears set after a series of moves on Saturday.

Placed on waivers were forward C.J. Elleby and guards A.J. Lawson and P.J. Dozier.

Pay attention if you are thinking of having children and hope they make the NBA.

Give them a legitimate first name - don’t let them go by initials. They can earn full name initials later, like MJ and KG.

That is all
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Re: Are we done making moves? 

Post#152 » by Klomp » Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:21 pm

shrink wrote:Pay attention if you are thinking of having children and hope they make the NBA.

Give them a legitimate first name - don’t let them go by initials. They can earn full name initials later, like MJ and KG.

That is all

(They all have "legitimate" first names)
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Re: Are we done making moves? 

Post#153 » by winforlose » Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:31 pm

shrink wrote:
Nick K wrote:By Chris Hine Star Tribune OCTOBER 15, 2022 — 4:02PM

The Timberwolves roster appears set after a series of moves on Saturday.

Placed on waivers were forward C.J. Elleby and guards A.J. Lawson and P.J. Dozier.

Pay attention if you are thinking of having children and hope they make the NBA.

Give them a legitimate first name - don’t let them go by initials. They can earn full name initials later, like MJ and KG.

That is all


Yeah!!!!! What is wrong with people. Naming kids such awful things like Michael and Kevin. What will these ******* think of next. We might even get guys named Larry and Chris next.
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Re: Are we done making moves? 

Post#154 » by shrink » Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:44 pm

Klomp wrote:
shrink wrote:Pay attention if you are thinking of having children and hope they make the NBA.

Give them a legitimate first name - don’t let them go by initials. They can earn full name initials later, like MJ and KG.

That is all

(They all have "legitimate" first names)

“.. and don’t let them go by initials.” Charles Eleby, or better yet, Chuck Eleby, might have had a better fate. :wink:
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Re: Are we done making moves? 

Post#155 » by winforlose » Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:47 pm

shrink wrote:
Klomp wrote:
shrink wrote:Pay attention if you are thinking of having children and hope they make the NBA.

Give them a legitimate first name - don’t let them go by initials. They can earn full name initials later, like MJ and KG.

That is all

(They all have "legitimate" first names)

“.. and don’t let them go by initials.” Charles Eleby, or better yet, Chuck Eleby, might have had a better fate. :wink:


Just be glad guys like VW don’t have last names that start with D. Or any other unfortunate acronyms.

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