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Re: Around The League: 2021-2022 Season 2.0 

Post#1001 » by GoSixersBro » Sun Oct 16, 2022 1:42 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Basketball contracts are just insane. Jordan Poole is an immensely skilled player, but does he have all the other things that the typical franchise player has, that make them worth the investment? Time will tell, I guess.


My guess: no. If Curry retired tomorrow he would be exposed this season. Still put up decent numbers, but not a player leading anyone to the Playoffs.
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Post#1002 » by Sixerscan » Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:31 pm

I remember in like 2014, before the new TV deal, people were debating whether Klay Thompson was worth the max contract he got.

That contract was for $17 million a year.

These deals just completely alter the financial landscape of the league.

That contract Poole got isn’t going to end up looking like a franchise player level contract.
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Post#1003 » by Jailblazers7 » Sun Oct 16, 2022 9:16 pm

Would we hesitate for even 1 second to sign Maxey to a 4/140 contract? No.

I think it’s a pretty easy deal to say yes to and the only reason to hesitate is that the Warriors luxury tax bill is insane.
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Post#1004 » by 76ciology » Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:15 am

Fans and MSM look at players’ contracts almost purely based on the talent of the player.

Teams value look at players’ contracts based on the overall situation of the team.

GSW is the favorites to win the title, how rare and sought after is that position? Being cute to risk letting Poole go and find after cheaper alternative does not make sense for them. And even if GSW has a max cap space, they will need to pay someone like Jordan Poole to around that much just to steal him from other teams.

As a CONTENDER, if you are going to be stingy and not overpay players, you either won’t win a championship or maybe just lucky to win a championship but wont be able to repeat.
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Post#1005 » by 76ciology » Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:23 am

2 of the many young players that stands out this preseason for me.

Joshua Primo
- 6’6 ht w/ 6’9 ws PG, who can shoot and has the skills to be a future star G in the league
- he only played in 2 preseason game but he looked very good against very good defenders by OKC like Dort

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Jalen Williams
- lowkey the most impressive rookie in this draft during PS.
- Jalen Williams preseason rookie ranks

#1 in assists
#6 in points (#4 for rookies playing more than 1 game)
#3 in steals
#1 in plus/minus
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Post#1006 » by 76ciology » Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:34 pm

BLOCKS PER GAME.

It started because im looking at blocks per game leader for fantasy purposes and i find that most of the guys just averages 1-1.5bpg.

Is blocks a stat that is slowly getting devalued?

Per 100 possession blocks per game dropped from 5.5 in 2011-2012 from to 4.8 in 2021-2028 season.

Last time it was this low in average blocks per game for the league was in 1978.

After 1978 it fluctuated from 5.0 to 5.7 (2000-2001) era.

I also wonder if steals do value more than blocks? Because steals would mean you secure a possession unlike blocks.

Steals is also easier to generate when average steals for a team can go to as high as to 9 per game (which is 50% more than blocks).

Because looking at our team, i’d guess that we’ll put a lot of emphasis on steals this season while I find us quite weak on rim protection. So maybe Morey has seen this trend.
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Post#1007 » by Stanford » Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:45 pm

76ciology wrote:Per 100 possession blocks per game dropped from 5.5 in 2011-2012 from to 4.8 in 2021-2028 season.

Last time it was this low in average blocks per game for the league was in 1978.

After 1978 it fluctuated from 5.0 to 5.7 (2000-2001) era.


Isn't it just because of spacing? Of course there will be less blocks per game when less shots go up around shot blockers.
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Post#1008 » by Jailblazers7 » Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:33 pm

It’s gotta be spacing and 3pt shooting driving blocks down. Fewer contested shots at the rim, more effort to remove shot blockers from the paint, and modern offense makes it really hard for true centers to find a place in the league.
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Post#1009 » by 76ciology » Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:58 am

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76ciology wrote:Per 100 possession blocks per game dropped from 5.5 in 2011-2012 from to 4.8 in 2021-2028 season.

Last time it was this low in average blocks per game for the league was in 1978.

After 1978 it fluctuated from 5.0 to 5.7 (2000-2001) era.


Isn't it just because of spacing? Of course there will be less blocks per game when less shots go up around shot blockers.


Oh yeah. This might be it.

League average is team attempts 35.6 3PTA per 100 in 2021-2022, its the highest ever. Which is 2x of what was average attempted per 100 in 2005-2006.

With that said.. what’s the ideal defense looks like in today’s NBA ?

Something like the Heat with an Adebayo type C who just averages barely 1bpg with a lot of switchable guys who can also rotate quick? Where there’s just OK rim protection but elite switching, trapping and rotating?

Looks a lot like our team.
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Post#1010 » by 76ciology » Tue Oct 18, 2022 4:39 am

538’s projection

4th best chance with Celtics as likely champions

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2023-nba-predictions/
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Post#1011 » by 76ciology » Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:57 am

Im watching some Celts preseason game and passed through their Raps game.

Raps 5 man unit of..

Barnes
OG
Achiuwa
Siakam
Boucher

Is probably the 5 man unit with most length that is functional in league history.

Achiuwa runs and finishes like a big wing like Jae Crowder btw.
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Post#1012 » by Jailblazers7 » Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:34 pm

76ciology wrote:538’s projection

4th best chance with Celtics as likely champions

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2023-nba-predictions/


Hawks/Mavs/Heat > Warriors is crazy
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Post#1013 » by Stanford » Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:45 pm

76ciology wrote:538’s projection

4th best chance with Celtics as likely champions

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2023-nba-predictions/


This doesn't bode well for the Celtics
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Post#1014 » by 76ciology » Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:49 pm

Stanford wrote:
76ciology wrote:538’s projection

4th best chance with Celtics as likely champions

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2023-nba-predictions/


This doesn't bode well for the Celtics


Hahaha true

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Post#1015 » by Jailblazers7 » Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:58 pm

I actually think the Celtics are in for a pretty disappointing season. Lots of drama surrounding the team and their frontcourt is questionable. Time lord will struggle to stay on the floor and Horford’s age will really start to show after that long finals run imo.
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Post#1016 » by Jailblazers7 » Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:36 pm

The more I think about GS the more I think the Draymond punch could be beneficial for them. They will probably get the most committed and locked in version of Draymond in his career. His ego started running out of control and he now needs to cut out his podcast BS, give max effort, and put his own personality aside to regain his teammates trust.
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Post#1017 » by Negrodamus » Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:46 pm

I think the Rockets are going to be a fringe playoff team and that'll be the last time they aren't competing in the West.

Jabari Smith and Eason are going to anchor that defense and KPjr, Green, and Christopher are going to crush teams with offense. That team is so stacked, it's unreal.
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Post#1018 » by Jailblazers7 » Wed Oct 19, 2022 4:06 pm

I’m excited to watch Rockets/Pistons/Magic this year. It feels like they could all be competing for a play in if their young stars show solid development.
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Post#1019 » by Jailblazers7 » Wed Oct 19, 2022 4:08 pm

Derozan should demand a trade once the Bulls implode. Lavine & Ball’s knees are gonna ruin any hope they have.
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Post#1020 » by Murray_17 » Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:57 am

Can we trade Monty for Doc? it works for both teams lol

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