AJ Lawson Thread

[KGdaBom]

I don't believe Moore had a bad/terrible SL. I think you're being hypercritical of him for little to no reason. I think he will make the team and stick with the team. Time will tell.

It should not surprise you some here have already given up on WMJ. They had already given up on Jaden McDaniels back in November 2021.

I didn’t say I gave up on him, and neither did So Money. It is worth noting that MCD didn’t have a summer league (there wasn’t one his rookie year,) and if he had he probably would have shined. In any event, Moore looked slow and displayed a poor handle. Does that mean his career is doomed, no. It was just how he looked.

I disagree with your assessment. He looked about how I expected him to look. Some good some bad. He's a swing guard/forward. Not a PG and his handle is as good or better than most of those. He was not slow. He also seemed like a leader on the court.

[winforlose]

It should not surprise you some here have already given up on WMJ. They had already given up on Jaden McDaniels back in November 2021.

I didn’t say I gave up on him, and neither did So Money. It is worth noting that MCD didn’t have a summer league (there wasn’t one his rookie year,) and if he had he probably would have shined. In any event, Moore looked slow and displayed a poor handle. Does that mean his career is doomed, no. It was just how he looked.

I disagree with your assessment. He looked about how I expected him to look. Some good some bad. He's a swing guard/forward. Not a PG and his handle is as good or better than most of those. He was not slow. He also seemed like a leader on the court.

There were multiple occasions where his handle wasn’t good enough for him to bring the ball up at full speed. In one instance he had to essentially jump stop to maintain control. Minott was rough at times, yet he displayed a better handle, especially in transition. You can say Moore is out of position, and I get that, but he is not yet ready to play PG and I question whether his current handle is sufficient for SG at the NBA level. That is not to say he won’t improve, but it is what he showed at SL. As for his being slow, how many times did defenders go around him. Dunking with wolves, CanisHoopus, and more saw the same thing. It is tough for a defensive specialist trying to guard 1-3 to lack foot speed or lateral quickness. I am not saying this to be a jerk, it was a legit concern. Now maybe some of that was nerves and some of it was trying to help to much, I don’t know. But it was evident and concerning.

[KGdaBom]

I didn’t say I gave up on him, and neither did So Money. It is worth noting that MCD didn’t have a summer league (there wasn’t one his rookie year,) and if he had he probably would have shined. In any event, Moore looked slow and displayed a poor handle. Does that mean his career is doomed, no. It was just how he looked.

I disagree with your assessment. He looked about how I expected him to look. Some good some bad. He's a swing guard/forward. Not a PG and his handle is as good or better than most of those. He was not slow. He also seemed like a leader on the court.

There were multiple occasions where his handle wasn’t good enough for him to bring the ball up at full speed. In one instance he had to essentially jump stop to maintain control. Minott was rough at times, yet he displayed a better handle, especially in transition. You can say Moore is out of position, and I get that, but he is not yet ready to play PG and I question whether his current handle is sufficient for SG at the NBA level. That is not to say he won’t improve, but it is what he showed at SL. As for his being slow, how many times did defenders go around him. Dunking with wolves, CanisHoopus, and more saw the same thing. It is tough for a defensive specialist trying to guard 1-3 to lack foot speed or lateral quickness. I am not saying this to be a jerk, it was a legit concern. Now maybe some of that was nerves and some of it was trying to help to much, I don’t know. But it was evident and concerning.

His handle is not good enough for PG and plenty good for SG. Other than those two points I simply disagree with your assessment. If Dunking with Wolves and CanisHoopus agree with your assessment I disagree with their assessment.

[SO_MONEY]

I disagree with your assessment. He looked about how I expected him to look. Some good some bad. He's a swing guard/forward. Not a PG and his handle is as good or better than most of those. He was not slow. He also seemed like a leader on the court.

There were multiple occasions where his handle wasn’t good enough for him to bring the ball up at full speed. In one instance he had to essentially jump stop to maintain control. Minott was rough at times, yet he displayed a better handle, especially in transition. You can say Moore is out of position, and I get that, but he is not yet ready to play PG and I question whether his current handle is sufficient for SG at the NBA level. That is not to say he won’t improve, but it is what he showed at SL. As for his being slow, how many times did defenders go around him. Dunking with wolves, CanisHoopus, and more saw the same thing. It is tough for a defensive specialist trying to guard 1-3 to lack foot speed or lateral quickness. I am not saying this to be a jerk, it was a legit concern. Now maybe some of that was nerves and some of it was trying to help to much, I don’t know. But it was evident and concerning.

His handle is not good enough for PG and plenty good for SG. Other than those two points I simply disagree with your assessment.

No it isn't. In the modern NBA his handles might sag below many PFs. I was shocked at how bad they were, it is junior high level stuff for a PG.

[winforlose]

I disagree with your assessment. He looked about how I expected him to look. Some good some bad. He's a swing guard/forward. Not a PG and his handle is as good or better than most of those. He was not slow. He also seemed like a leader on the court.

There were multiple occasions where his handle wasn’t good enough for him to bring the ball up at full speed. In one instance he had to essentially jump stop to maintain control. Minott was rough at times, yet he displayed a better handle, especially in transition. You can say Moore is out of position, and I get that, but he is not yet ready to play PG and I question whether his current handle is sufficient for SG at the NBA level. That is not to say he won’t improve, but it is what he showed at SL. As for his being slow, how many times did defenders go around him. Dunking with wolves, CanisHoopus, and more saw the same thing. It is tough for a defensive specialist trying to guard 1-3 to lack foot speed or lateral quickness. I am not saying this to be a jerk, it was a legit concern. Now maybe some of that was nerves and some of it was trying to help to much, I don’t know. But it was evident and concerning.

His handle is not good enough for PG and plenty good for SG. Other than those two points I simply disagree with your assessment. If Dunking with Wolves and CanisHoopus agree with your assessment I disagree with their assessment.

So just to be clear, everyone else is wrong because you and you alone are the authority? I suppose you think he should have gone higher in the draft then? I mean if he is an NBA ready shooting guard with no flaws in his game he should probably be a lottery pick, right? Maybe even top 5? Hell, who needs Chet when you have Moore?

I never said Moore shouldn’t make the team or cannot improve, or any other nonsense. But if you legitimately didn’t have concerns based on his summer league play you should go back and watch it again. You can probably find clips or even whole replays on YouTube.

[minimus]

loooooooool

Kevin Durant shot 5-17 in his first summer-league game. Michael Beasley scored 28 points against D-Rose who only scored 8. Trae Young was 4-20 from the field.

Let Moore take a rest and work on his game before preseason.

[KGdaBom]

There were multiple occasions where his handle wasn’t good enough for him to bring the ball up at full speed. In one instance he had to essentially jump stop to maintain control. Minott was rough at times, yet he displayed a better handle, especially in transition. You can say Moore is out of position, and I get that, but he is not yet ready to play PG and I question whether his current handle is sufficient for SG at the NBA level. That is not to say he won’t improve, but it is what he showed at SL. As for his being slow, how many times did defenders go around him. Dunking with wolves, CanisHoopus, and more saw the same thing. It is tough for a defensive specialist trying to guard 1-3 to lack foot speed or lateral quickness. I am not saying this to be a jerk, it was a legit concern. Now maybe some of that was nerves and some of it was trying to help to much, I don’t know. But it was evident and concerning.

His handle is not good enough for PG and plenty good for SG. Other than those two points I simply disagree with your assessment. If Dunking with Wolves and CanisHoopus agree with your assessment I disagree with their assessment.

So just to be clear, everyone else is wrong because you and you alone are the authority? I suppose you think he should have gone higher in the draft then? I mean if he is an NBA ready shooting guard with no flaws in his game he should probably be a lottery pick, right? Maybe even top 5? Hell, who needs Chet when you have Moore?

I never said Moore shouldn’t make the team or cannot improve, or any other nonsense. But if you legitimately didn’t have concerns based on his summer league play you should go back and watch it again. You can probably find clips or even whole replays on YouTube.

You're not making anything any clearer than mud. I didn't say I was the only authority. I didn't say he had no flaws. I did say I disagree with some of your criticism and obviously if somebody else agrees with those criticisms I'm going to have to disagree with them. We don't need to agree to disagree. We just disagree. No big deal.

[SO_MONEY]

His handle is not good enough for PG and plenty good for SG. Other than those two points I simply disagree with your assessment. If Dunking with Wolves and CanisHoopus agree with your assessment I disagree with their assessment.

So just to be clear, everyone else is wrong because you and you alone are the authority? I suppose you think he should have gone higher in the draft then? I mean if he is an NBA ready shooting guard with no flaws in his game he should probably be a lottery pick, right? Maybe even top 5? Hell, who needs Chet when you have Moore?

I never said Moore shouldn’t make the team or cannot improve, or any other nonsense. But if you legitimately didn’t have concerns based on his summer league play you should go back and watch it again. You can probably find clips or even whole replays on YouTube.

You're not making anything any clearer than mud. I didn't say I was the only authority. I didn't say he had no flaws. I did say I disagree with some of your criticism and obviously if somebody else agrees with those criticisms I'm going to have to disagree with them. We don't need to agree to disagree. We just disagree. No big deal.

You said he had sufficient ball-handling for a SG, he clearly, clearly doesn't. His handles are horrendous and are not position, age, experience appropriate. He is very far behind the curve and it is concerning that is the case at this stage of his development.

Any objective person understands the above. You continue to deny it, even when it is in your face... that is his point. It isn't an agree or disagree thing, it is a correct or incorrect thing. You are incorrect. That said maybe he improves, but he has ground to make up. Perhaps someday he will have sufficient ball-handling for a SG.

Defensively he was slow footed, and had bad weight distribution which could be related. At times it even looked like he gave up. . also not good. Again all of this was glaring and obvious, not a final grade, but its existence isn't in doubt. It is real. It is correct.

[thinktank]

Is this the Moore thread of the Lawson thread?

I love Lawson’s quick release. Great form. Looks like Beasley with better D. I doubt he has any handles.

[winforlose]

Is this the Moore thread of the Lawson thread?

I love Lawson’s quick release. Great form. Looks like Beasley with better D. I doubt he has any handles.

He played PG in college freshman year. His change of position indicates he isn’t an exceptional ball handler, but I do think he has a passable handle. I would target him as a SG who can play SF for depth. 6’6 with 6’7 wingspan is pretty good for SG.

[minimus]

I know I have strange habit to be very hyped about end of the bench young NBA players. But... After watching a few Lawson tapes I see a lot of potential in him. If he can improve footwork, he can become a catch and shoot guard who might thrive next to Gobert/Towns/Ant

[winforlose]

I know I have strange habit to be very hyped about end of the bench young NBA players. But... After watching a few Lawson tapes I see a lot of potential in him. If he can improve footwork, he can become a catch and shoot guard who might thrive next to Gobert/Towns/Ant

It is hard to put my finger on it, but I feel the same way. Watching some of his clips, listening to some pods where they talk about him (locked on Wolves yesterday was great for that, you can find it on YouTube,) and seeing his progress year to year, I suspect we got a steal. I could be wrong of course, but I have a good feeling about him.

Watch on YouTube

[Folklore]

I am FAR more confident that he has potential to be something than Moore, if I had any reservations about using Moore as an asset in a trade for an upgrade ...I don't now. Love this pickup, love it.

Are you rooting for OKC and not for MIN?!

I am rooting for both.

A player from my hometown is on the team. They just added another Minnesotan in Chet. I am throwing out my support to have a backup plan. I think we will be better, but let's face it what we did is high risk and if it doesn't work out I might be dead by the time we get out of it... seriously. I think we got about 3 to 4 years of maybe having a chance, but if we middle it will suck... and after that we might have 3-4 years of decline and few assets. Life is short man.

"we"? what are you talking about? I hope you aren't referring to us Wolve fans.

[winforlose]

Anyone heard anything about Lawson since we cut him? I wonder if he ends up with the Iowa Wolves, or some other G league team.

[Biff Cooper]

Anyone heard anything about Lawson since we cut him? I wonder if he ends up with the Iowa Wolves, or some other G league team.

I've done a google search on him pretty much every day since we waived him. Don't get anything. Seems a little weird that Lawson was waived in favor of Paschall and Garza, but then Paschall gets waived 3-4 days later. I guess possibly they are leaving a spot open for Dozier or whoever else.

[winforlose]

Anyone heard anything about Lawson since we cut him? I wonder if he ends up with the Iowa Wolves, or some other G league team.

I've done a google search on him pretty much every day since we waived him. Don't get anything. Seems a little weird that Lawson was waived in favor of Paschall and Garza, but then Paschall gets waived 3-4 days later. I guess possibly they are leaving a spot open for Dozier or whoever else.

Dozier cannot be signed to a two way. Not sure who we want, but keeping a two way open is definitely different. Probably gonna sign someone next week.

[Klomp]

Anyone heard anything about Lawson since we cut him? I wonder if he ends up with the Iowa Wolves, or some other G league team.

I've done a google search on him pretty much every day since we waived him. Don't get anything. Seems a little weird that Lawson was waived in favor of Paschall and Garza, but then Paschall gets waived 3-4 days later. I guess possibly they are leaving a spot open for Dozier or whoever else.

I'm guessing there was a reevaluation recently. They were hopeful that it was closer to being healed, but keeping him at this point ends up not giving us any value.

[wolves_89]

Anyone heard anything about Lawson since we cut him? I wonder if he ends up with the Iowa Wolves, or some other G league team.

I've done a google search on him pretty much every day since we waived him. Don't get anything. Seems a little weird that Lawson was waived in favor of Paschall and Garza, but then Paschall gets waived 3-4 days later. I guess possibly they are leaving a spot open for Dozier or whoever else.

I'm curious to see if Lawson gets re-signed to a two-way deal or if the team goes in a different direction. At the moment I believe the Wolves are the only team left with an open two-way spot.

[BlacJacMac]

Anyone heard anything about Lawson since we cut him? I wonder if he ends up with the Iowa Wolves, or some other G league team.

I've done a google search on him pretty much every day since we waived him. Don't get anything. Seems a little weird that Lawson was waived in favor of Paschall and Garza, but then Paschall gets waived 3-4 days later. I guess possibly they are leaving a spot open for Dozier or whoever else.

I'm curious to see if Lawson gets re-signed to a two-way deal or if the team goes in a different direction. At the moment I believe the Wolves are the only team left with an open two-way spot.

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[winforlose]

I've done a google search on him pretty much every day since we waived him. Don't get anything. Seems a little weird that Lawson was waived in favor of Paschall and Garza, but then Paschall gets waived 3-4 days later. I guess possibly they are leaving a spot open for Dozier or whoever else.

I'm curious to see if Lawson gets re-signed to a two-way deal or if the team goes in a different direction. At the moment I believe the Wolves are the only team left with an open two-way spot.

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What the hell good does an open 2 way spot do? You can always release the player without impact on the cap. The player not only can play for Iowa (immediate improvement to G league team,) but also for the main roster (emergency depth.) Finally, you get to use the guy in practice and get him used to your system more quickly so he can contribute.