PG: Raptors give the Calves cramps on opening night

[rapsincr]

I'll believe it when I see it. Guys shouldn't be playing 39 minutes unless we are in the playoffs. Even against good teams it's just a regular season game.

Maxey, Harden, Embiid, Tatum and Brown all played 37-39 minutes in the PHI/BOS opener, Trae and Murray played 38 minutes against the Rockets, Bridges and Booker played 41 minutes against the Mavs, etc. This happens all the time in the NBA.

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I don't care how many minutes those people played. We already found out last year what happens when you play FVV heavy minutes in the regular season and everyone agreed that we shouldn't ride him like that. I'm not saying this is a done deal all I am saying is this is another game where what is suppose to happen didn't happen.

i honestly think the reason fred played extra minutes was the foul trouble scottie was in, i think scottie takes 2 or 3 minutes from fred if he didnt get into said foul trouble.

[lobosloboslobos]

Yes, they were hella mid

so you're saying it was our terrific bench that carried us to 48 wins last year?

besides i don't get it - you're talking 345 minutes over a whole season??? that's 4 mpg. that's your issue?

Hybrid lineups with Boucher and/or Precious carried us to wins

That group played 21 games last year, and was the 15th most played 5-man unit, plenty sample size.

If they only played 21 games out of 82 then that is an obvious sign that there were all kinds of other things going on, like injuries, experiments, matchups, etc.

anyway, i hope you will be as outspoken and happy about any success they have as you are down on their perceived failures, but to each his own

[Los_29]

so you're saying it was our terrific bench that carried us to 48 wins last year?

besides i don't get it - you're talking 345 minutes over a whole season??? that's 4 mpg. that's your issue?

Hybrid lineups with Boucher and/or Precious carried us to wins

That group played 21 games last year, and was the 15th most played 5-man unit, plenty sample size.

If they only played 21 games out of 82 then that is an obvious sign that there were all kinds of other things going on, like injuries, experiments, matchups, etc.

anyway, i hope you will be as outspoken and happy about any success they have as you are down on their perceived failures, but to each his own

Exactly, giving up on lineups that quickly never works out well. Patience is often always rewarded. They looked great last night, obviously just one game but they showed how dangerous they can be.

[Dennis 37]

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That picture reeks of entitlement. Scottie was pure joy.

[Dennis 37]

When has this board ever criticized how a team celebrates a game winning shot or game winning play? And there's been a lot of those against us over the years. CHA did it against us multiple times and fans weren't upset that they were jumping around and running around the court in celebration. Fans would get pissed if they were doing it mid way through the 3rd Q though.

I thought this was pertaining to the fanbase in general, not the just the board.

Which raises the question, how representative is this board of the wider fanbase

We are less wide.

I was wary of Scottie's celebration because, as a young player, I thought it might bring a tech. I would rather Scottie ensure the clock has run out before he does a happy.

[Dennis 37]

When has this board ever criticized how a team celebrates a game winning shot or game winning play? And there's been a lot of those against us over the years. CHA did it against us multiple times and fans weren't upset that they were jumping around and running around the court in celebration. Fans would get pissed if they were doing it mid way through the 3rd Q though.

Seriously. I don't know why it's so hard to grasp that the two things being compared aren't even close. Celebrating a game-sealing dunk with fractions of a second left? Perfectly acceptable. Bringing out the airplane in 30-point blowouts? Nah, that is unsportsmanlike.

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People complain about my ancient Bobby Orr stories, but nonetheless.
Orr scores while Boston already has a 2 goal lead, he doesn't even raise his stick in celebration. Not even a smile.
He scores the winning goal in overtime, he allows himself a happy moment.

Same with Kawhi. The only basket I remember him celebrating was the multi bounce.

[will]

When has this board ever criticized how a team celebrates a game winning shot or game winning play? And there's been a lot of those against us over the years. CHA did it against us multiple times and fans weren't upset that they were jumping around and running around the court in celebration. Fans would get pissed if they were doing it mid way through the 3rd Q though.

Seriously. I don't know why it's so hard to grasp that the two things being compared aren't even close. Celebrating a game-sealing dunk with fractions of a second left? Perfectly acceptable. Bringing out the airplane in 30-point blowouts? Nah, that is unsportsmanlike.

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People complain about my ancient Bobby Orr stories, but nonetheless.
Orr scores while Boston already has a 2 goal lead, he doesn't even raise his stick in celebration. Not even a smile.
He scores the winning goal in overtime, he allows himself a happy moment.

Same with Kawhi. The only basket I remember him celebrating was the multi bounce.

How is the back these days, Dennis?

[Dennis 37]

Seriously. I don't know why it's so hard to grasp that the two things being compared aren't even close. Celebrating a game-sealing dunk with fractions of a second left? Perfectly acceptable. Bringing out the airplane in 30-point blowouts? Nah, that is unsportsmanlike.

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People complain about my ancient Bobby Orr stories, but nonetheless.
Orr scores while Boston already has a 2 goal lead, he doesn't even raise his stick in celebration. Not even a smile.
He scores the winning goal in overtime, he allows himself a happy moment.

Same with Kawhi. The only basket I remember him celebrating was the multi bounce.

How is the back these days, Dennis?

Thanks for asking. 80% better and I've stopped the pain pills. Have to be really careful about how I move and what I lift.

[TheBoi10]

so you're saying it was our terrific bench that carried us to 48 wins last year?

besides i don't get it - you're talking 345 minutes over a whole season??? that's 4 mpg. that's your issue?

Hybrid lineups with Boucher and/or Precious carried us to wins

That group played 21 games last year, and was the 15th most played 5-man unit, plenty sample size.

If they only played 21 games out of 82 then that is an obvious sign that there were all kinds of other things going on, like injuries, experiments, matchups, etc.

anyway, i hope you will be as outspoken and happy about any success they have as you are down on their perceived failures, but to each his own

They were 15th in minutes played league wide, there was plenty of sample size. That cope is not valid.

Bizarre gripe when I praised them for performing better last night

[canada_dry]

Maxey, Harden, Embiid, Tatum and Brown all played 37-39 minutes in the PHI/BOS opener, Trae and Murray played 38 minutes against the Rockets, Bridges and Booker played 41 minutes against the Mavs, etc. This happens all the time in the NBA.

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I don't care how many minutes those people played. We already found out last year what happens when you play FVV heavy minutes in the regular season and everyone agreed that we shouldn't ride him like that. I'm not saying this is a done deal all I am saying is this is another game where what is suppose to happen didn't happen.

Fred’s injury wasn’t a result of the minutes he played though. According to him he suffered a bone bruise in early February.

Its all related. Fred himself has admitted to the minutes wearing him down last year. We can't just say the minutes werent a problem, thats blatantly false. They were. A necessary evil? Maybe, but problematic nonetheless.

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[canada_dry]

so you're saying it was our terrific bench that carried us to 48 wins last year?

besides i don't get it - you're talking 345 minutes over a whole season??? that's 4 mpg. that's your issue?

Hybrid lineups with Boucher and/or Precious carried us to wins

That group played 21 games last year, and was the 15th most played 5-man unit, plenty sample size.

If they only played 21 games out of 82 then that is an obvious sign that there were all kinds of other things going on, like injuries, experiments, matchups, etc.

anyway, i hope you will be as outspoken and happy about any success they have as you are down on their perceived failures, but to each his own

He wont. He's all about the "copes".

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[Los_29]

I don't care how many minutes those people played. We already found out last year what happens when you play FVV heavy minutes in the regular season and everyone agreed that we shouldn't ride him like that. I'm not saying this is a done deal all I am saying is this is another game where what is suppose to happen didn't happen.

Fred’s injury wasn’t a result of the minutes he played though. According to him he suffered a bone bruise in early February.

Its all related. Fred himself has admitted to the minutes wearing him down last year. We can't just say the minutes werent a problem, thats blatantly false. They were. A necessary evil? Maybe, but problematic nonetheless.

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A bone bruise isn’t a wear and tear related injury though. Unless he had other issues that we don’t know about.

[WaltFrazier]

When has this board ever criticized how a team celebrates a game winning shot or game winning play? And there's been a lot of those against us over the years. CHA did it against us multiple times and fans weren't upset that they were jumping around and running around the court in celebration. Fans would get pissed if they were doing it mid way through the 3rd Q though.

Seriously. I don't know why it's so hard to grasp that the two things being compared aren't even close. Celebrating a game-sealing dunk with fractions of a second left? Perfectly acceptable. Bringing out the airplane in 30-point blowouts? Nah, that is unsportsmanlike.

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People complain about my ancient Bobby Orr stories, but nonetheless.
Orr scores while Boston already has a 2 goal lead, he doesn't even raise his stick in celebration. Not even a smile.
He scores the winning goal in overtime, he allows himself a happy moment.

Same with Kawhi. The only basket I remember him celebrating was the multi bounce.

As they used to say about touchdowns in football - act like you've been there before. I like that. But I also had no issue with Jose Bautista's bat flip in 2015, that was appropriate imo.

[WaltFrazier]

Fred’s injury wasn’t a result of the minutes he played though. According to him he suffered a bone bruise in early February.

Its all related. Fred himself has admitted to the minutes wearing him down last year. We can't just say the minutes weren't a problem, thats blatantly false. They were. A necessary evil? Maybe, but problematic nonetheless.

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A bone bruise isn’t a wear and tear related injury though. Unless he had other issues that we don’t know about.

He does look a touch slower to me in running back on defense. Eye test only of course.

edit - someone else said in a recent preseason game thread, it looks like his hips are tight running. Just anecdotal so far, I know

[BlackThought]

Fred’s injury wasn’t a result of the minutes he played though. According to him he suffered a bone bruise in early February.

Its all related. Fred himself has admitted to the minutes wearing him down last year. We can't just say the minutes werent a problem, thats blatantly false. They were. A necessary evil? Maybe, but problematic nonetheless.

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A bone bruise isn’t a wear and tear related injury though. Unless he had other issues that we don’t know about.

He said he wasn't listening to his body because the teams needed him to win. Like I said, nobody likes to admit that they need to play less minutes but it's obviously better to conserve yourself in the regular season.

We need Fred to win and the only way to need him less is for our young guys to step up. It's hard for them to step up if they aren't given the opportunity to make mistakes.

[LastNameEver]

I thought this was pertaining to the fanbase in general, not the just the board.

Which raises the question, how representative is this board of the wider fanbase

We are less wide.

I was wary of Scottie's celebration because, as a young player, I thought it might bring a tech. I would rather Scottie ensure the clock has run out before he does a happy.

Emotion wise, Scottie is pretty much the anti-Kawhi. Any opportunity to celebrate - he will act on it. (See Steph Curry.)

[WaltFrazier]

Hybrid lineups with Boucher and/or Precious carried us to wins

That group played 21 games last year, and was the 15th most played 5-man unit, plenty sample size.

If they only played 21 games out of 82 then that is an obvious sign that there were all kinds of other things going on, like injuries, experiments, matchups, etc.

anyway, i hope you will be as outspoken and happy about any success they have as you are down on their perceived failures, but to each his own

Exactly, giving up on lineups that quickly never works out well. Patience is often always rewarded. They looked great last night, obviously just one game but they showed how dangerous they can be.

"... often always.."? Just being nitpicky lol

[bballsparkin]

How is the back these days, Dennis?

Thanks for asking. 80% better and I've stopped the pain pills. Have to be really careful about how I move and what I lift.

Get your hands on that and I'm sure the back will feel swell. Brain might go into disco mode though. So be warned...

[TorontoBaller]

I love this title

[Raptors1991]

Y'all read the L2M report? We got shafted on all 3 incorrect calls

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