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GT #1: Bullets @ Pacers 7 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) [10/19/22]

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Re: GT #1: Bullets @ Pacers 7 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) [10/19/22] 

Post#181 » by doclinkin » Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:07 pm

nate33 wrote:I really want to see a starting lineup of Wright, Beal, Avdija, Kuzma and Porzingis.


Starting or not, I think that is likely to be our closing line-up in tight games. We started all but Wright, and Wright played 27 minutes to Morris' 21 mins. Some part of coaching is managing locker room dynamics, some is teaching and systems, Morris seems to be well-liked on the squad and he knows the offense.

But whatever Morris was doing we were winning with him on court, 6 assists and 6 boards are both better than what Wright put up. Morris took good shots within the flow of the offense, he just missed most of them. I am still willing to give Wes the benefit of the doubt. He is not a screamer or forceful personality, as a player development guy I expect what he does takes a little time to get right. I do like that every player was active in tracking down rebounds. Easier to do though when both Myles Turner and Theiss aren't on the floor.
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Re: GT #1: Bullets @ Pacers 7 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) [10/19/22] 

Post#182 » by queridiculo » Thu Oct 20, 2022 3:26 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:who was the butterfingered guy who let two passes bounce off his hands?


Barton.
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Re: GT #1: Bullets @ Pacers 7 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) [10/19/22] 

Post#183 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Thu Oct 20, 2022 3:33 pm

On a work trip, so I'm about to catch the replay, but extremely pleased that Wes made the right move and started Deni. Hopefully despite the injury (which appears that they aired on the side of caution keeping him out for the rest of the game), this establishes him firmly in the starting lineup so their isn't controversy there. He should be the starter, we all know that, happy Wes made the right decision.
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Re: GT #1: Bullets @ Pacers 7 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) [10/19/22] 

Post#184 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Thu Oct 20, 2022 3:57 pm

80sballboy wrote:Ok, so the numbers:
Deni was a +14 before he got hurt. If he's out 2-3 or more weeks, that's a huge loss. Hopefully, it's only a few games.

Morris was a +17 had six assists, six rebounds and one turnover in 21 minutes. 7pts on 2-of-6 shooting. Played very little in the second half.

Porzingis +7, 10 rebounds, 2 blocks, 5-of-14 FG, 1-of-5 3pt, 4-6 FG, Would like to see him post up more against smaller teams but when he faces the big boys, will need to make perimeter shots.

Beal 9-of-17, 2-7 pt. 6 assists and 3 turnovers, 23 pts. Don't like him at the end of games handling the ball every possession. We pick up two combo/point guards but it's Beal with the ball the laste five minutes.

Gafford 12pts, 7 rebs. Terrible preseason. Good energy in this one and should dominate their awful backups.

Delon Wright in 27 minutes was a -10, 5pts, 2 steals, just one assist, one turnover. Not great D against McConnell or Haliburton.


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Re: GT #1: Bullets @ Pacers 7 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) [10/19/22] 

Post#185 » by WallToWall » Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:48 pm

After watching some replays…. Beal, Kuzma, Porzingis is an interesting combination. I’d like to see where it goes.
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Re: GT #1: Bullets @ Pacers 7 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) [10/19/22] 

Post#186 » by montestewart » Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:54 pm

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I’m old, what are the wires connected to?

How does that helps heal sprained ankles?

Did Avdija get his ankles wired up too ?

Google search tells me Kwires are used for fractures & dislocation, but nothing about sprains.


Neuromuscular electrical stimulation, to prevent inflammation.

Good to have a doc on the board!
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Re: GT #1: Bullets @ Pacers 7 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) [10/19/22] 

Post#187 » by payitforward » Thu Oct 20, 2022 6:59 pm

badinage wrote:
80sballboy wrote:Ok, so the numbers:
Deni was a +14 before he got hurt. If he's out 2-3 or more weeks, that's a huge loss. Hopefully, it's only a few games.

Morris was a +17 had six assists, six rebounds and one turnover in 21 minutes. 7pts on 2-of-6 shooting. Played very little in the second half.

Porzingis +7, 10 rebounds, 2 blocks, 5-of-14 FG, 1-of-5 3pt, 4-6 FG, Would like to see him post up more against smaller teams but when he faces the big boys, will need to make perimeter shots.

Beal 9-of-17, 2-7 pt. 6 assists and 3 turnovers, 23 pts. Don't like him at the end of games handling the ball every possession. We pick up two combo/point guards but it's Beal with the ball the laste five minutes.

Gafford 12pts, 7 rebs. Terrible preseason. Good energy in this one and should dominate their awful backups.

Delon Wright in 27 minutes was a -10, 5pts, 2 steals, just one assist, one turnover. Not great D against McConnell or Haliburton.

Incorrect. Wright made so many smart moves on D, many of which aren’t going to show up in the box score. Shading. Cutting off passing lanes. Deflections. Bodying up a big in the paint to prevent a hoop... (he) made a huge difference in that great stretch in the third and fourth....

Oh, they show up in the box score all right -- in the other team's box score! I.e. as negatives!

OTOH, defense isn't the whole game, & we do have to mention that last night his on/off was -10. Given that the entire rest of the bench combined was -8 in 80 minutes, I don't know exactly how he could have "made a huge difference in... the third and fourth."

Especially since, in 27 minutes, he only recorded 1 assist -- & the whole rest of the bench managed only 3 more (all by Barton).

The guy who had a great game last night, although I doubt he'll get much credit for it here, is Monte Morris. In 21 minutes, he recorded 6 rebounds (2 on the offensive boards) & 6 assists to go with 2 steals to 1 TO & only 1 foul.

badinage wrote:A great win.

Not sure I understand all the b*tching, apart from the sloppiness there at the very end.

A 7-point victory, on the road, in an opposing team’s season opener. And they put it to the Pacers for most of the game....

100% correct!

It was great to see Brad come out & have a solid night without trying to do too too much. Barton shot the ball well if not much else.

It's worth noticing that Porzingis had an off night, Kuzma wasn't particularly good, Avdija was only able to log 8 minutes, & Rui played poorly -- yet, we still won. On the road. & had the game well in hand for most of the evening.

A terrific win -- just as Badinage wrote!
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Re: GT #1: Bullets @ Pacers 7 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) [10/19/22] 

Post#188 » by doclinkin » Thu Oct 20, 2022 7:05 pm

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I’m old, what are the wires connected to?

How does that helps heal sprained ankles?

Did Avdija get his ankles wired up too ?

Google search tells me Kwires are used for fractures & dislocation, but nothing about sprains.


Neuromuscular electrical stimulation, to prevent inflammation.

Good to have a doc on the board!


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Re: GT #1: Bullets @ Pacers 7 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) [10/19/22] 

Post#189 » by doclinkin » Thu Oct 20, 2022 7:30 pm

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The guy who had a great game last night, although I doubt he'll get much credit for it here, is Monte Morris. In 21 minutes, he recorded 6 rebounds (2 on the offensive boards) & 6 assists to go with 2 steals to 1 TO & only 1 foul.

...

A terrific win -- just as Badinage wrote!


I take it you didn't see the game. Much of Morris' +17 was a fluke of timing. He happened to be on court when other players were hot and Carlisle hadn't yet made adjustments.

Monte' was blanking shots on offense, and letting players blow past him on defense. His teammates bailed him out on D and snuffed plays with blocks/deflections when Monte lost track of them. One of his 'steals' was a ricochet caused by Deni who made a really smart trap after breaking up a Stix Smith pick and roll, and tapped it in Monte's direction. (The other was a beautiful interception of a long pass though. That was nice). The rebounds were good, though on a few the ball bounced directly to him on long rebounds from missed threes or were airballs that fell directly into his hands. Some of his right place/right time rebounds etc are credit to his awareness, some landed in his pocket. Still, Morris played alright, he just hasn't been able to hit a shot all year.

Conversely Wright was the only defender on court in some garbage line-ups. He was commonly defending 2-3 guys on every possession. He was playing most of his minutes next to some combination of Rui, Barton, Gill, and Gafford if I recall correctly. Had to foul to keep opponents from scoring easily.

Carlisle kept Mathurin out of the game for too long. That kid is tough. When he is in the game, bad things happen. To opponents.
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Re: GT #1: Bullets @ Pacers 7 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) [10/19/22] 

Post#190 » by tleikheen » Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:19 pm

It's worth noticing that Porzingis had an off night, Kuzma wasn't particularly good, Avdija was only able to log 8 minutes, & Rui played poorly -- yet, we still won. On the road. & had the game well in hand for most of the evening.


Its been asked what direction are the Wiz going ,whats their identity. We started to see it last night. They're embracing their length and young legs.Avidja started ,KP and Kuz got good minutes and Rui and Gaff look to be big off the bench.No one over 27 yrs old,they have a chance to cause alot of teams trouble defensively. Add in Kispert when he gets back and the Wiz will be 2 deep up front and can play big and be active .WUJ looks to play more tallball than smallball !
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Re: GT #1: Bullets @ Pacers 7 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) [10/19/22] 

Post#191 » by payitforward » Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:30 am

doclinkin wrote:
payitforward wrote:The guy who had a great game last night, although I doubt he'll get much credit for it here, is Monte Morris. In 21 minutes, he recorded 6 rebounds (2 on the offensive boards) & 6 assists to go with 2 steals to 1 TO & only 1 foul.

I take it you didn't see the game. Much of Morris' +17 was a fluke of timing. He happened to be on court when other players were hot and Carlisle hadn't yet made adjustments. ...

I did miss the first quarter.

doclinkin wrote:...Morris played alright, he just hasn't been able to hit a shot all year....

True enough. I'm assuming he'll come back to the norm.

doclinkin wrote:...Conversely Wright was the only defender on court in some garbage line-ups. He was commonly defending 2-3 guys on every possession. He was playing most of his minutes next to some combination of Rui, Barton, Gill, and Gafford if I recall correctly. Had to foul to keep opponents from scoring easily....

I am a HUGE fan of Delon Wright. I've written that I think he's one of the most effective guards in the league.

Other than Wright at 27 minutes, 4 guys game off the bench. 3 of them, Barton, Gill & Gafford combined for 56 minutes & were down a combined total of 2 points. They scored 31 points on 21 shots & 4 FTAs. That's a .681 TS%.

They combined for 10 boards of which 4 were on the offensive end.

In short, they played really well.

Wright can have a sub-par game. He's allowed. & if he posted the numbers he posted plus you're -10 on/off, I think we can say that's what he had. NBD

doclinkin wrote:...Carlisle kept Mathurin out of the game for too long. That kid is tough. When he is in the game, bad things happen. To opponents.

He does look like he's going to have a terrific career!
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Re: GT #1: Bullets @ Pacers 7 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) [10/19/22] 

Post#192 » by closg00 » Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:56 pm

Pacers probably win with Turner in the game

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