2022-23 English Premier League Discussion Thread

[LDNMagic90]

Gerrard is only 42. He played for Pool as recently as 2015.

Do fired managers get to work as assistants for other managers or he just has to wait and hope to get another manager job somewhere?

They do whatever they want. I'd imagine his ego means he'll only take the job of top man but more likely he'll move into media. I'm sure with his payoff he need never work again.

I might go as far as saying he may never get another 'top' job again. This was his chance to make a name for himself, he had the money to spend, the facilities, the whole lot and he f*cked it. He should become a pundit or get into recruitment or something. You know it was bad when one of our owners was present and apparently stormed off after we went 1-0 down.

He barely wanted to acknowledge our fans at games, made everything about it being the player's fault (which I agree share some blame), but nothing about his **** tactics.

[wco81]

If a first-time manager is fired, what is his route back to another manager post?

Work for another manager?

Work in the media?

Take a job with say a team which is likely to get relegated?

Take a job with a club in the Championship?


You see some managers rotate through jobs at top leagues throughout Europe but they tend to have some track record, won at some club years ago.

But that's only like a handful or a dozen individuals.

Are there many one and done managers?

[HIF]

If a first-time manager is fired, what is his route back to another manager post?

Work for another manager?

Work in the media?

Take a job with say a team which is likely to get relegated?

Take a job with a club in the Championship?


You see some managers rotate through jobs at top leagues throughout Europe but they tend to have some track record, won at some club years ago.

But that's only like a handful or a dozen individuals.

Are there many one and done managers?

I don't think that there are very many Prem managers who are first time. You're aware that Gerrard is not a first time manager at villa aren't you? Most manage a club in the championship or Scotland at the very least before getting a prem post and the rare occasion that a manager gets a first time job in the prem is because they have been a highly visible number 2 at a successful club.

[wco81]

Liverpool beat City last weekend but then lose to NF.

It’s early but their objective now appears to be to end up in the top 4.

Do they miss Sane that much?

[LDNMagic90]

Liverpool beat City last weekend but then lose to NF.

It’s early but their objective now appears to be to end up in the top 4.

Do they miss Sane that much?

No depth is killing them. I do think Mane not being there has affected them, but when you compare their squad to City’s it’s night and day.

[wco81]

United equalize in stoppage time at Chelsea.

Header making it just barely over the keeper's outstretched hands.

[Baphomet]

Great finish between Chelsea and United. McTominay gives away a stupid, needless penalty in the 87th minute, which Jorginho converts. Then Casemiro heads in an equaliser in stoppage time.

On the balance of play, I thought United were the better side and deserved more than a point.

[AK47MVP]

Great finish between Chelsea and United. McTominay gives away a stupid, needless penalty in the 87th minute, which Jorginho converts. Then Casemiro heads in an equaliser in stoppage time.

On the balance of play, I thought United were the better side and deserved more than a point.

Agree. Absolute stupidity by McTominay to do this, almost lost despite being better team most of the game. Sancho and Rashford both were brutally bad today, United badly need a decent striker...

[HIF]

Liverpool beat City last weekend but then lose to NF.

It’s early but their objective now appears to be to end up in the top 4.

Do they miss Sane that much?

No depth is killing them. I do think Mane not being there has affected them, but when you compare their squad to City’s it’s night and day.

But when you compare their squad to most others in the Prem - including the team that beat them today - it's night and day.

The problem wasn't the squad depth.

[HIF]

Great finish between Chelsea and United. McTominay gives away a stupid, needless penalty in the 87th minute, which Jorginho converts. Then Casemiro heads in an equaliser in stoppage time.

On the balance of play, I thought United were the better side and deserved more than a point.

Agree. Absolute stupidity by McTominay to do this, almost lost despite being better team most of the game. Sancho and Rashford both were brutally bad today, United badly need a decent striker...

I hear that Ronaldo may be available in the January window - oh

[Baphomet]

My opinion is that the impetus has gone a bit with Liverpool. Sometimes it happens when you have the same manager with (mostly) the same group of players year after year, and you've already won all the big prizes, sometimes it's hard to keep the intensity high. It happens. It feels like, at least to me, that they just can't get fired up for every game anymore, and of course they showed up against City because it's City, their hated rivals over the past 5 years. I feel like they're very mercurial this season, there are times where you see the ruthless Liverpool of old surfacing, but it's juxtaposed with disinterest in other games.

Maybe they'll find form again, I don't know. But I think they need a bit of squad turnover and investment to replenish things, rather than spending £100m on one player like Nunez.

[wco81]

But then how do you account for City?

They seem as driven as ever.

I think they'd still be winning even without Haaland though they probably have been energized and want to help him set the record.

I guess they haven't won the CL and many of them haven't won the WC.

[Baphomet]

But then how do you account for City?

They seem as driven as ever.

I think they'd still be winning even without Haaland though they probably have been energized and want to help him set the record.

I guess they haven't won the CL and many of them haven't won the WC.

City have a larger turnover of players than Liverpool, and hungry young talents coming through like Foden, Alvarez, Palmer, etc so that doesn't disprove my point. Regardless, like I said, it doesn't happen all the time: Alex Ferguson kept Man United competitive for 20+ years with very few lapses.

Liverpool just look mentally fatigued to me and there's something increasingly stale about the squad and tactics. Klopp himself said that they needed to reinvent themselves.

[HIF]

But then how do you account for City?

They seem as driven as ever.

I think they'd still be winning even without Haaland though they probably have been energized and want to help him set the record.

I guess they haven't won the CL and many of them haven't won the WC.

City have a larger turnover of players than Liverpool, and hungry young talents coming through like Foden, Alvarez, Palmer, etc so that doesn't disprove my point. Regardless, like I said, it doesn't happen all the time: Alex Ferguson kept Man United competitive for 20+ years with very few lapses.

Liverpool just look mentally fatigued to me and there's something increasingly stale about the squad and tactics. Klopp himself said that they needed to reinvent themselves.

I agree with you. It's the same at Leicester. We need to freshen up the ideas and our decline over the last 18 months is proof of that. Brendan should have been thanked and replaced with a young, hungry manager who can bring new impetus to our team.

[The_Brecht]

We need to win against Southampton. Something that has been difficult the last couple of years.
For some reason, they always play good against us.

[LDNMagic90]

Someone tell Gerrard this is how we should’ve set up lol.

[The_Brecht]

Blatant pen on Jesus not given.
The refereeing standard in the Prem is pathetic.

[Sedale Threatt]

Jesus got flat-out tackled American football style four or five times either in or on the edge of the box and this donkey just refused to call anything.

That said, that’s two straight league matches Arsenal has been shoved on their back foot by a more aggressive, harder-working team. Feels like the lack of quality depth is hurting them. They’ve been so flat for huge stretches.

[The_Brecht]

Jesus got flat-out tackled American football style four or five times either in or on the edge of the box and this donkey just refused to call anything.

That said, that’s two straight league matches Arsenal has been shoved on their back foot by a more aggressive, harder-working team. Feels like the lack of quality depth is hurting them. They’ve been so flat for huge stretches.

Arteta needs to rotate more. We lack the depth in quality, but we can't overplay our key players, because they are running out of steam, hence the less scharp finishing. Partey also looked completely dead the last minutes.
Also bad come ons by Viera and Nketiah. Tierney deserves a start the next game.

[LDNMagic90]

Wow what a big f u to all the media that was blaming the Villa players, our caretaker manager just showed everyone what a proper system and organisation looks like. I’ve not seen us play this good since forever.

Unfortunately Coutinho is washed, maybe his confidence is completely shot but Buendia is light years ahead of him.

Villa park was rocking all afternoon and it’s not been like that since Dean Smith was there.