Rui Hachimura 2.0

[Frichuela]

I think Jared Butler certainly warrants an extended look on a two way. I'd prefer him to Schakel or Goodwin.

Amen. 100%.

[payitforward]

I think Jared Butler certainly warrants an extended look on a two way. I'd prefer him to Schakel or Goodwin.

Me too. But, I'm not sure he'd be at the top of my list if I was going to replace 1 or both of those guys. I'd rather have Quenton Jackson than either of them, & I'd rather have Keon Ellis than Jackson.

[Dolevi]

Rui Hachimura's +/- so far this season:

-6 vs IND
-17 vs CHI
-5 vs CLE
-5 vs DET
-19 vs IND
-17 vs BOS
-18 vs PHI

-27.1 Net rating, lowest in the team.
0.55 AST/TOV.

Consistency..

[Dat2U]

Rui Hachimura's +/- so far this season:

-6 vs IND
-17 vs CHI
-5 vs CLE
-5 vs DET
-19 vs IND
-17 vs BOS
-18 vs PHI

-27.1 Net rating, lowest in the team.
0.55 AST/TOV.

Consistency..

Sadly my original Mike Scott & Yi comparisons were not far off. If I remember correctly, i had him 31 or 32 on my draft board.

I'd force feed him as many minutes & shots as he can handle and see if inflating the raw numbers gets a team to bite on giving up a future 1st.

[mhd]

Rui Hachimura's +/- so far this season:

-6 vs IND
-17 vs CHI
-5 vs CLE
-5 vs DET
-19 vs IND
-17 vs BOS
-18 vs PHI

-27.1 Net rating, lowest in the team.
0.55 AST/TOV.

Consistency..

Sadly my original Mike Scott & Yi comparisons were not far off. If I remember correctly, i had him 31 or 32 on my draft board.

I'd force feed him as many minutes & shots as he can handle and see if inflating the raw numbers gets a team to bite on giving up a future 1st.

Maybe the marketing money would be an enticement as well. However, Turd only cares about that, so I doubt Rui is traded.

[mhd]

Rui Hachimura's +/- so far this season:

-6 vs IND
-17 vs CHI
-5 vs CLE
-5 vs DET
-19 vs IND
-17 vs BOS
-18 vs PHI

-27.1 Net rating, lowest in the team.
0.55 AST/TOV.

Consistency..

Sadly my original Mike Scott & Yi comparisons were not far off. If I remember correctly, i had him 31 or 32 on my draft board.

I'd force feed him as many minutes & shots as he can handle and see if inflating the raw numbers gets a team to bite on giving up a future 1st.

Dat, I remember you being high on Kilian Hayes in his draft year. Would you gamble on him? I'd trade Davis & Todd for him, but I know I'm the biggest Davis hater on the board.

[doclinkin]

Credit where credit is due: Rui played really well in this 2nd Phily game. Good rotations on D, quick passing that led to assists, plays even designed for him to pass. Screened well. Rebounded actively. If Rui consistently played like this we'd be a much better team.

[Tyrone Messby]

Credit where credit is due: Rui played really well in this 2nd Phily game. Good rotations on D, quick passing that led to assists, plays even designed for him to pass. Screened well. Rebounded actively. If Rui consistently played like this we'd be a much better team.

We all know that's not going to happen

[NatP4]

I think Jared Butler certainly warrants an extended look on a two way. I'd prefer him to Schakel or Goodwin.

Amen. 100%.

Butler was pretty good for Utah last season and we need another guard. Such an obvious move to make.

[dckingsfan]

Rui Hachimura's +/- so far this season:

-6 vs IND
-17 vs CHI
-5 vs CLE
-5 vs DET
-19 vs IND
-17 vs BOS
-18 vs PHI

-27.1 Net rating, lowest in the team.
0.55 AST/TOV.

Consistency..

Rui is on these boards and says ha! +14

[tleikheen]

Hmmmm... how things change when you get 30 minutes and alot with Beal and KP and Kuz than Gaff, Barton and Gill

[doclinkin]

Hmmmm... how things change when you get 30 minutes and alot with Beal and KP and Kuz than Gaff, Barton and Gill

The other way around. He came off the bench and played well, so the coaching staff kept him in. Seems like the right way to do it: if you play well you earn more minutes. His first 5 min stint he missed 3 of 4 shots, but had 2 ast, 3 boards, 1 block. That's good team play, active defense. Had 3 assists and 6 boards his first 10 minutes in the game, most of it with bench players. Coaches reward that kind of production.

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[payitforward]

Credit where credit is due: Rui played really well in this 2nd Phily game. Good rotations on D, quick passing that led to assists, plays even designed for him to pass. Screened well. Rebounded actively. If Rui consistently played like this we'd be a much better team.

Well, anything that indicates Rui's bbiq is improving is a good sign to be sure. In fact, it's worth mentioning that, in every way but scoring the ball, Rui is playing this year at the level of an average NBA PF -- which is an extremely significant jump for him!

& last night was an example of that: in every way but scoring Rui played very well indeed.

Unfortunately, on the season & even more last night, Rui's scoring has regressed significantly from last year. Last night, Rui went 5-13. That's 38.5% & he didn't get to the line even once in 33 minutes.

Keep in mind that we won the game exclusively because the starters scored so astonishingly well: they posted a .742 TS%. Unbelievable.... For that matter, the other 3 bench players also scored quite well (.595 TS%).

All the same, Rui definitely rebounded extremely well. & 4 assists in 33 minutes is also outstanding -- might be his best ever! Certainly close.

[payitforward]

Hmmmm... how things change when you get 30 minutes and alot with Beal and KP and Kuz than Gaff, Barton and Gill

The other way around. He came off the bench and played well, so the coaching staff kept him in. Seems like the right way to do it: if you play well you earn more minutes. His first 5 min stint he missed 3 of 4 shots, but had 2 ast, 3 boards, 1 block. That's good team play, active defense. Had 3 assists and 6 boards his first 10 minutes in the game, most of it with bench players. Coaches reward that kind of production.

Not to mention that the business about who he's playing with is the usual empty nonsense. I believe the point has been made a couple of dozen times that Rui's on/off has been bad no matter who was on the floor with him.

Not to mention that, no, overall Rui didn't play well last night. You can't just overlook 5-13 & no trips to the line & say "look how good Rui was."

That said, last night he rebounded well & posted 4 assists. Give him credit for what he did.

[doclinkin]

And other things that don't show up in his box score. He passed when the paint was shut off. He slid to cut off defenders even when his man was off ball. He made a few non-scoring basketball plays.

The good thing about Rui's deficiencies is that they are the sort of thing that can improve with experience. His talents are the sort of thing that can't be taught. He may never be a basketball maestro, but 'getting better' is where success lies.

[tontoz]

He is averaging 8.6 rebounds per 36 which is a big jump. Obviously a small sample though.

[DCZards]

And other things that don't show up in his box score. He passed when the paint was shut off. He slid to cut off defenders even when his man was off ball. He made a few non-scoring basketball plays.

The good thing about Rui's deficiencies is that they are the sort of thing that can improve with experience. His talents are the sort of thing that can't be taught. He may never be a basketball maestro, but 'getting better' is where success lies.

…and the one block Rui had was one of his more instinctive plays. He came off of the guy he was defending to block the shot of another Sixer.

[prime1time]

Hmmmm... how things change when you get 30 minutes and alot with Beal and KP and Kuz than Gaff, Barton and Gill

The other way around. He came off the bench and played well, so the coaching staff kept him in. Seems like the right way to do it: if you play well you earn more minutes. His first 5 min stint he missed 3 of 4 shots, but had 2 ast, 3 boards, 1 block. That's good team play, active defense. Had 3 assists and 6 boards his first 10 minutes in the game, most of it with bench players. Coaches reward that kind of production.

Not to mention that the business about who he's playing with is the usual empty nonsense. I believe the point has been made a couple of dozen times that Rui's on/off has been bad no matter who was on the floor with him.

Not to mention that, no, overall Rui didn't play well last night. You can't just overlook 5-13 & no trips to the line & say "look how good Rui was."
That said, last night he rebounded well & posted 4 assists. Give him credit for what he did.

What is Rui's role on the team? Instead of focusing on who he's playing with focus on role.

[tleikheen]

It does matter who you play with ...all the time,ignorant to think otherwise. I see sh*t defense played by Morris ,Beal,Kuz ,and Barton that get unsaid and then all blame goes to Rui. Since the beginning of training camp his team mates have raved about him and he has delivered in his role and his bullying his way to baskets gets the opposing teams attn. The Wiz have no one else on the roster like him. The changing of the team is starting as the roll out of KP ,Beal ,Kuz ,Rui, and Deni wont be the 1st time we see them play as the Wiz best lineup.

[payitforward]

It does matter who you play with ...all the time,ignorant to think otherwise. I see sh*t defense played by Morris ,Beal,Kuz ,and Barton that get unsaid and then all blame goes to Rui. Since the beginning of training camp his team mates have raved about him and he has delivered in his role and his bullying his way to baskets gets the opposing teams attn. The Wiz have no one else on the roster like him. The changing of the team is starting as the roll out of KP ,Beal ,Kuz ,Rui, and Deni wont be the 1st time we see them play as the Wiz best lineup.

No matter how long you ride a hobbyhorse, you still don't get anywhere.