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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Pels (Oct. 25, 7:30PM EST - TNT) 

Post#21 » by Archx » Tue Oct 25, 2022 10:25 am

ejs78 wrote:
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ejs78 wrote:It matters cuz you're taking a 3 game sample size from someone who hasn't done anything for years. Wood still has a long way to go to prove himself... thus his current contract. No one should be penciling him as a savior until we see more.



And what has Frank done in years or Facu.. or Pinson? DSJ was always a decent defender as much as Frank but had a much higher upside on offense. Signing him for dirt cheap would have still been a decent choice since he said he would welcome a return to Mavs.


The fascination this board has with guys who might play 10 mins is unreal. Him wanting to be here has nothing to do with the team wanting him. No contenders were interested in him which should tell you all you need to know.

Roddy B could drop 20 in a pickup game and people would be like "I cant believe we let him go!!!"


I get it, you're scared to take risks, just like Mavs FO.... This is the reason why Mavs are taking 1 step forward and 2 steps back with their roster. "Lets play it safe, while there is an MVP candidate on the team".

Apz wrote:DSJ is worse then all the mentioned. He is more flashy, but saying he is as good as frank defensively is just making a joke out of all you posts.

Personally i wouldnt have minded him instead of facu, i would definetly prefer him over the kembas of the nba. But he is no playmaker really, just too bad iq. So if i have to choose between Franks defense and dsjs iso offense, i take frank every day.


Calling my posts a joke then you write this post makes you look really goofy. Frank is a China level player, he's not an NBA player. Comparing him to DSJ who is levels above him, even athletically, is the real joke here. Frank hasn't shown us in years that he can stay on the floor neither has he shown any kind of IQ that could potentially make him a great prospect. If he gives you 1 good game out of 10, doesn't make him valuable or anything like that.
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Post#22 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 10:29 am

And i take DSJ defense over Frank offense :lol:

Guys, they both can't really play in the PO.
They are like 12th man in a contender roster. No more.

Most of us really liked DSJ attitude here, we all know his limits.
In some garbage time i would like to see DSJ with our jersey. Not Pinson for example :lol:
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Post#23 » by Bob8 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:30 am

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ejs78 wrote:
Archx wrote:

And what has Frank done in years or Facu.. or Pinson? DSJ was always a decent defender as much as Frank but had a much higher upside on offense. Signing him for dirt cheap would have still been a decent choice since he said he would welcome a return to Mavs.


The fascination this board has with guys who might play 10 mins is unreal. Him wanting to be here has nothing to do with the team wanting him. No contenders were interested in him which should tell you all you need to know.

Roddy B could drop 20 in a pickup game and people would be like "I cant believe we let him go!!!"


I get it, you're scared to take risks, just like Mavs FO.... This is the reason why Mavs are taking 1 step forward and 2 steps back with their roster. "Lets play it safe, while there is an MVP candidate on the team".

Apz wrote:DSJ is worse then all the mentioned. He is more flashy, but saying he is as good as frank defensively is just making a joke out of all you posts.

Personally i wouldnt have minded him instead of facu, i would definetly prefer him over the kembas of the nba. But he is no playmaker really, just too bad iq. So if i have to choose between Franks defense and dsjs iso offense, i take frank every day.


Calling my posts a joke then you write this post makes you look really goofy. Frank is a China level player, he's not an NBA player. Comparing him to DSJ who is levels above him, even athletically, is the real joke here. Frank hasn't shown us in years that he can stay on the floor neither has he shown any kind of IQ that could potentially make him a great prospect. If he gives you 1 good game out of 10, doesn't make him valuable or anything like that.


I don't believe we need DSJ but Ntilikina is 4/1/1 player with 40% Fg in Mavs and on top of everything he's injured nonstop. Impossible to be worse off that.

Btw, impossible to have normal debate with those 2, they don't understand that someone can have different opinion, it's always personal for them.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Pels (Oct. 25, 7:30PM EST - TNT) 

Post#24 » by ejs78 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:33 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Archx wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
The fascination this board has with guys who might play 10 mins is unreal. Him wanting to be here has nothing to do with the team wanting him. No contenders were interested in him which should tell you all you need to know.

Roddy B could drop 20 in a pickup game and people would be like "I cant believe we let him go!!!"


I get it, you're scared to take risks, just like Mavs FO.... This is the reason why Mavs are taking 1 step forward and 2 steps back with their roster. "Lets play it safe, while there is an MVP candidate on the team".

Apz wrote:DSJ is worse then all the mentioned. He is more flashy, but saying he is as good as frank defensively is just making a joke out of all you posts.

Personally i wouldnt have minded him instead of facu, i would definetly prefer him over the kembas of the nba. But he is no playmaker really, just too bad iq. So if i have to choose between Franks defense and dsjs iso offense, i take frank every day.


Calling my posts a joke then you write this post makes you look really goofy. Frank is a China level player, he's not an NBA player. Comparing him to DSJ who is levels above him, even athletically, is the real joke here. Frank hasn't shown us in years that he can stay on the floor neither has he shown any kind of IQ that could potentially make him a great prospect. If he gives you 1 good game out of 10, doesn't make him valuable or anything like that.


I don't believe we need DSJ but Ntilikina is 4/1/1 player with 40% Fg in Mavs and on top of everything he's injured nonstop. Impossible to be worse off that.

Btw, impossible to have normal debate with those 2, they don't understand that someone can have different opinion, it's always personal for them.
Bob,

You're back. Do you only post after the team gets beat? Kinda looks like it.

Conversations can be had but some of us live in reality.....btw kinda sounds personal that you responded.

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Post#25 » by ejs78 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:40 pm

Archx wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Archx wrote:

And what has Frank done in years or Facu.. or Pinson? DSJ was always a decent defender as much as Frank but had a much higher upside on offense. Signing him for dirt cheap would have still been a decent choice since he said he would welcome a return to Mavs.


The fascination this board has with guys who might play 10 mins is unreal. Him wanting to be here has nothing to do with the team wanting him. No contenders were interested in him which should tell you all you need to know.

Roddy B could drop 20 in a pickup game and people would be like "I cant believe we let him go!!!"


I get it, you're scared to take risks, just like Mavs FO.... This is the reason why Mavs are taking 1 step forward and 2 steps back with their roster. "Lets play it safe, while there is an MVP candidate on the team".

Apz wrote:DSJ is worse then all the mentioned. He is more flashy, but saying he is as good as frank defensively is just making a joke out of all you posts.

Personally i wouldnt have minded him instead of facu, i would definetly prefer him over the kembas of the nba. But he is no playmaker really, just too bad iq. So if i have to choose between Franks defense and dsjs iso offense, i take frank every day.


Calling my posts a joke then you write this post makes you look really goofy. Frank is a China level player, he's not an NBA player. Comparing him to DSJ who is levels above him, even athletically, is the real joke here. Frank hasn't shown us in years that he can stay on the floor neither has he shown any kind of IQ that could potentially make him a great prospect. If he gives you 1 good game out of 10, doesn't make him valuable or anything like that.
Its not a risk to sign a min salary player. There's nothing 1 step forward 2 back with DSJ when the guy would play 10 min.

Never said your post was a joke. I said it's hilarious to think he's far superior to the others mentioned and this board is obsessed with end of the bench players.

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Post#26 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 1:17 pm

We talk about DSJ because it's too much painful see Bane scores 38points a night when Green took 1 shoot in 2 games :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

That draft was the big mistake. It's hurt.
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Post#27 » by Bob8 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 1:38 pm

ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Archx wrote:
I get it, you're scared to take risks, just like Mavs FO.... This is the reason why Mavs are taking 1 step forward and 2 steps back with their roster. "Lets play it safe, while there is an MVP candidate on the team".



Calling my posts a joke then you write this post makes you look really goofy. Frank is a China level player, he's not an NBA player. Comparing him to DSJ who is levels above him, even athletically, is the real joke here. Frank hasn't shown us in years that he can stay on the floor neither has he shown any kind of IQ that could potentially make him a great prospect. If he gives you 1 good game out of 10, doesn't make him valuable or anything like that.


I don't believe we need DSJ but Ntilikina is 4/1/1 player with 40% Fg in Mavs and on top of everything he's injured nonstop. Impossible to be worse off that.

Btw, impossible to have normal debate with those 2, they don't understand that someone can have different opinion, it's always personal for them.
Bob,

You're back. Do you only post after the team gets beat? Kinda looks like it.

Conversations can be had but some of us live in reality.....btw kinda sounds personal that you responded.

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Ntilikina being unbelievably bad is a sad reality. He being injured nonstop although he plays very little is a sad reality. And Mavs have numerous players, who can't really make a difference. (DSJ would be another one). Mavs doing very poorly with building their roster after drafting Luka is a sad reality too. But having a player, who can score 21 points in first Q and assist in vast majority of other points, will win you a lot of games, unfortunately nobody can win championship alone. If I were really only Luka's stan and didn't care about Mavs, I would enjoy his MVP season.

It might be shocking news to you, but it's kinda difficult to watch all games at 3AM.
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Post#28 » by HMFFL » Tue Oct 25, 2022 1:46 pm

Our beloved Mavs are 4.5 point favorites.

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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Pels (Oct. 25, 7:30PM EST - TNT) 

Post#29 » by ejs78 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:12 pm

Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
I don't believe we need DSJ but Ntilikina is 4/1/1 player with 40% Fg in Mavs and on top of everything he's injured nonstop. Impossible to be worse off that.

Btw, impossible to have normal debate with those 2, they don't understand that someone can have different opinion, it's always personal for them.
Bob,

You're back. Do you only post after the team gets beat? Kinda looks like it.

Conversations can be had but some of us live in reality.....btw kinda sounds personal that you responded.

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Ntilikina being unbelievably bad is a sad reality. He being injured nonstop although he plays very little is a sad reality. And Mavs have numerous players, who can't really make a difference. (DSJ would be another one). Mavs doing very poorly with building their roster after drafting Luka is a sad reality too. But having a player, who can score 21 points in first Q and assist in vast majority of other points, will win you a lot of games, unfortunately nobody can win championship alone. If I were really only Luka's stan and didn't care about Mavs, I would enjoy his MVP season.

It might be shocking news to you, but it's kinda difficult to watch all games at 3AM.


Him being a 10th or 11th man is also a reality. Just like pretty much every other team in the league you arent going to have some stud player in this role as this isn't a fantasy league. We can go over every roster in the NBA and you are going to see plenty of teams that have players who can't make a difference.
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Post#30 » by Archx » Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:17 pm

ejs78 wrote:
Archx wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
The fascination this board has with guys who might play 10 mins is unreal. Him wanting to be here has nothing to do with the team wanting him. No contenders were interested in him which should tell you all you need to know.

Roddy B could drop 20 in a pickup game and people would be like "I cant believe we let him go!!!"


I get it, you're scared to take risks, just like Mavs FO.... This is the reason why Mavs are taking 1 step forward and 2 steps back with their roster. "Lets play it safe, while there is an MVP candidate on the team".

Apz wrote:DSJ is worse then all the mentioned. He is more flashy, but saying he is as good as frank defensively is just making a joke out of all you posts.

Personally i wouldnt have minded him instead of facu, i would definetly prefer him over the kembas of the nba. But he is no playmaker really, just too bad iq. So if i have to choose between Franks defense and dsjs iso offense, i take frank every day.


Calling my posts a joke then you write this post makes you look really goofy. Frank is a China level player, he's not an NBA player. Comparing him to DSJ who is levels above him, even athletically, is the real joke here. Frank hasn't shown us in years that he can stay on the floor neither has he shown any kind of IQ that could potentially make him a great prospect. If he gives you 1 good game out of 10, doesn't make him valuable or anything like that.
Its not a risk to sign a min salary player. There's nothing 1 step forward 2 back with DSJ when the guy would play 10 min.

Never said your post was a joke. I said it's hilarious to think he's far superior to the others mentioned and this board is obsessed with end of the bench players.


"The joke" comment wasn't directed towards you, i specifically quoted the other person. My point towards you is, i never said DSJ could have been the saviour or whatever for the Mavs, all i am saying is, for cheap instead of having guys like Pinson, Frank or even Facu, Mavs could have taken a risk and get back DSJ since he wanted to come back. His game more than anything speaks for itself. Apparently he improved a bit and being the 3rd guy that can actually get to the rim with ease, would have been way more helpful than what Mavs have behind Luka and Spencer.

It is more or less evident (well it always was), that Green and Frank won't be what Kidd talked about in preseason, Mavs delusions by trying to fill up the holes from Brunson fiasco are already evident. They became desperate when they signed Facu and when season goes on, our concerns will be more and more clear.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Pels (Oct. 25, 7:30PM EST - TNT) 

Post#31 » by Bob8 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:06 pm

ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:Bob,

You're back. Do you only post after the team gets beat? Kinda looks like it.

Conversations can be had but some of us live in reality.....btw kinda sounds personal that you responded.

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Ntilikina being unbelievably bad is a sad reality. He being injured nonstop although he plays very little is a sad reality. And Mavs have numerous players, who can't really make a difference. (DSJ would be another one). Mavs doing very poorly with building their roster after drafting Luka is a sad reality too. But having a player, who can score 21 points in first Q and assist in vast majority of other points, will win you a lot of games, unfortunately nobody can win championship alone. If I were really only Luka's stan and didn't care about Mavs, I would enjoy his MVP season.

It might be shocking news to you, but it's kinda difficult to watch all games at 3AM.


Him being a 10th or 11th man is also a reality. Just like pretty much every other team in the league you arent going to have some stud player in this role as this isn't a fantasy league. We can go over every roster in the NBA and you are going to see plenty of teams that have players who can't make a difference.


Yes, if Luka and Dinwiddie can play around 80 games, Mavs don't need anyone else on point. Problem is that scenario in which they miss 15+ games each, is far more likely. The difference about Mavs roster and vast majority of others is incredible lack of ball handling and creativity outside those 2. Wood can create something for himself, but I doubt very much you want him on point.

Other problem is that you don't want to have Luka with near 40% usage in RS.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Pels (Oct. 25, 7:30PM EST - TNT) 

Post#32 » by ejs78 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:06 pm

Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Ntilikina being unbelievably bad is a sad reality. He being injured nonstop although he plays very little is a sad reality. And Mavs have numerous players, who can't really make a difference. (DSJ would be another one). Mavs doing very poorly with building their roster after drafting Luka is a sad reality too. But having a player, who can score 21 points in first Q and assist in vast majority of other points, will win you a lot of games, unfortunately nobody can win championship alone. If I were really only Luka's stan and didn't care about Mavs, I would enjoy his MVP season.

It might be shocking news to you, but it's kinda difficult to watch all games at 3AM.


Him being a 10th or 11th man is also a reality. Just like pretty much every other team in the league you arent going to have some stud player in this role as this isn't a fantasy league. We can go over every roster in the NBA and you are going to see plenty of teams that have players who can't make a difference.


Yes, if Luka and Dinwiddie can play around 80 games, Mavs don't need anyone else on point. Problem is that scenario in which they miss 15+ games each, is far more likely. The difference about Mavs roster and vast majority of others is incredible lack of ball handling and creativity outside those 2. Wood can create something for himself, but I doubt very much you want him on point.

Other problem is that you don't want to have Luka with near 40% usage in RS.
Guess I missed the part where they got a 3rd ball handler at the deadline last year.

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Post#33 » by Bob8 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:20 pm

ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Him being a 10th or 11th man is also a reality. Just like pretty much every other team in the league you arent going to have some stud player in this role as this isn't a fantasy league. We can go over every roster in the NBA and you are going to see plenty of teams that have players who can't make a difference.


Yes, if Luka and Dinwiddie can play around 80 games, Mavs don't need anyone else on point. Problem is that scenario in which they miss 15+ games each, is far more likely. The difference about Mavs roster and vast majority of others is incredible lack of ball handling and creativity outside those 2. Wood can create something for himself, but I doubt very much you want him on point.

Other problem is that you don't want to have Luka with near 40% usage in RS.
Guess I missed the part where they got a 3rd ball handler at the deadline last year.

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Or maybe you have missed the part, where they lost a second ball handler in the offseason?
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Post#34 » by ejs78 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:25 pm

Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Yes, if Luka and Dinwiddie can play around 80 games, Mavs don't need anyone else on point. Problem is that scenario in which they miss 15+ games each, is far more likely. The difference about Mavs roster and vast majority of others is incredible lack of ball handling and creativity outside those 2. Wood can create something for himself, but I doubt very much you want him on point.

Other problem is that you don't want to have Luka with near 40% usage in RS.
Guess I missed the part where they got a 3rd ball handler at the deadline last year.

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Or maybe you have missed the part, where they lost a second ball handler in the offseason?
Is he???

What about Nash???

If they do trade for another ball handler are you just gonna complain its not JB???

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Post#35 » by HMFFL » Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:37 pm

Mark Followill: An addition to the Mavs injury report for tonight’s game in New Orleans. The team is now listing Tim Hardaway Jr as doubtful with right foot soreness. Davis Bertans and Frank Ntilikina remain out with knee and ankle issues respectively.

 

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Post#36 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:43 pm

Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Yes, if Luka and Dinwiddie can play around 80 games, Mavs don't need anyone else on point. Problem is that scenario in which they miss 15+ games each, is far more likely. The difference about Mavs roster and vast majority of others is incredible lack of ball handling and creativity outside those 2. Wood can create something for himself, but I doubt very much you want him on point.

Other problem is that you don't want to have Luka with near 40% usage in RS.
Guess I missed the part where they got a 3rd ball handler at the deadline last year.

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Or maybe you have missed the part, where they lost a second ball handler in the offseason?


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Post#37 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:43 pm

Guys keep calm... Tonight Facu will play, don't worry.
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Post#38 » by Bob8 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:45 pm

ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:Guess I missed the part where they got a 3rd ball handler at the deadline last year.

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Or maybe you have missed the part, where they lost a second ball handler in the offseason?
Is he???

What about Nash???

If they do trade for another ball handler are you just gonna complain its not JB???

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I believe everyone understand, you included, that Luka and Dinwiddie won't be enough for the whole season unless miracle happens and they miss only few games.

I'm sure you look to yourself as extremely funny and smart guy. The wizard of Oz. :D
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Post#39 » by ejs78 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:51 pm

Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Or maybe you have missed the part, where they lost a second ball handler in the offseason?
Is he???

What about Nash???

If they do trade for another ball handler are you just gonna complain its not JB???

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I believe everyone understand, you included, that Luka and Dinwiddie won't be enough for the whole season unless miracle happens and they miss only few games.

I'm sure you look to yourself as extremely funny and smart guy. The wizard of Oz. :D


Bob,

You worry about the regular season....I am sure you are really excited for an in season tournament.

Ill worry about the post season.
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Post#40 » by Bob8 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:57 pm

ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:Is he???

What about Nash???

If they do trade for another ball handler are you just gonna complain its not JB???

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I believe everyone understand, you included, that Luka and Dinwiddie won't be enough for the whole season unless miracle happens and they miss only few games.

I'm sure you look to yourself as extremely funny and smart guy. The wizard of Oz. :D


Bob,

You worry about the regular season....I am sure you are really excited for an in season tournament.

Ill worry about the post season.


You don't need to worry about the post season, if Luka averages 40%+ usage in RS. ;)

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