NBA 2022-23 Regular Season Thread Volume 1

[MettaWorldPanda]

Right now we need to be thinking about clearing up the balance sheet. Lowry and Duncan's deals are absolutely bending us over here in the short term. Next year will be much easier to trade Lowry as an expiring but that does not take away the fact that we are limited in making moves this year and most of the deals this year will be concentrated in finding someone to take on Lowry and Duncan's deals unless we find someone on a long term contract that we like a lot that matches those contracts.

[MettaWorldPanda]

As far as PJ Washington goes. He's another one playing damn well and happens to be one of the only capable PF's on that roster. Seems like another hope traffic get. With Bridges gone they would be wise to invest long term with PJ or at least see what he gets in the restricted free agent market.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Kuzma is averaging close to 20 points a game and the Wiz are 2-1 this early season. Why in the world would they be giving away talent at this time? Just some more made up garbage for site hits and to give us some senseless hope. Kuzma is not getting traded here. On top of it all he has a player option and with the way he's playing will be commanding a whole lot of money we can't afford to pay because we are stuck with Duncan and Lowry eating up all the cap room for at least another year.

Our eyes need to be on the Kings. They’re 0-3 to start and their next 2 are against the Grizzlies and us. If we take care of business they should be 0-5 by then.

You send out whatever it takes outside of Jimmy Bam and Herro (isn’t eligible to be traded) and go all in for Fox who fixes our need for a PG. You try to get Sabonis or Barnes along with him and find a way to get metu as a throw in. If you can’t get it don’t want Sabonis or Barnes you hope we have a first remaining to send out for a Bojan, Washington, Rui, Crowder/Craig or Saric, Lauri, etc.

Now you’ve fixed your hole at PG and PF and catch up to the teams ahead of us in the standings (basically everyone)

[MettaWorldPanda]

Kuzma is averaging close to 20 points a game and the Wiz are 2-1 this early season. Why in the world would they be giving away talent at this time? Just some more made up garbage for site hits and to give us some senseless hope. Kuzma is not getting traded here. On top of it all he has a player option and with the way he's playing will be commanding a whole lot of money we can't afford to pay because we are stuck with Duncan and Lowry eating up all the cap room for at least another year.

Our eyes need to be on the Kings. They’re 0-3 to start and their next 2 are against the Grizzlies and us. If we take care of business they should be 0-5 by then.

You send out whatever it takes outside of Jimmy Bam and Herro (isn’t eligible to be traded) and go all in for Fox who fixes our need for a PG. You try to get Sabonis or Barnes along with him and find a way to get metu as a throw in. If you can’t get it don’t want Sabonis or Barnes you hope we have a first remaining to send out for a Bojan, Washington, Rui, Crowder/Craig or Saric, Lauri, etc.

Now you’ve fixed your hole at PG and PF and catch up to the teams ahead of us in the standings (basically everyone)

Fox is locked up for the next 5 years. Kings should have no interest in trading him for any perceived poo poo platter of Lowry, Duncan, and picks. What ever it takes is not enough with what's currently on our roster for a player of that caliber not named Bam.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Of all the teams Lowry could end up with in any form of three team deal or possibly straight up is the San Antonio Spurs. Lowry has a great admiration for Greg Popovich and the Spurs could use a vet PG like him in the final two years of that deal to help bring that young team along. Duncan Robinson also makes for a really good fit with that team. Of course they will need to be compensated with picks but of all the teams in the NBA they make the most sense in terms of possible fit and having the money to make it happen.

https://clutchpoints.com/raptors-news-kyle-lowry-expresses-awe-for-gregg-popovich-despite-lack-of-interest-from-spurs/

As of today the Spurs and Heat could come together for a deal of Lowry and Robinson for pieces such as J Rich(expiring), McDermott(2 years and possible starting 4 for us), and Poetl(expiring). The deal would also bring on upwards of close to 10 million in salary cap relief for us this year. I would have to imagine that a deal like this would take at least two picks to make happen but all things considered I could see the organization doing it with the looming cap problems next year and having any hope of retaining Strus and Vincent at very least.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Kuzma is averaging close to 20 points a game and the Wiz are 2-1 this early season. Why in the world would they be giving away talent at this time? Just some more made up garbage for site hits and to give us some senseless hope. Kuzma is not getting traded here. On top of it all he has a player option and with the way he's playing will be commanding a whole lot of money we can't afford to pay because we are stuck with Duncan and Lowry eating up all the cap room for at least another year.

Our eyes need to be on the Kings. They’re 0-3 to start and their next 2 are against the Grizzlies and us. If we take care of business they should be 0-5 by then.

You send out whatever it takes outside of Jimmy Bam and Herro (isn’t eligible to be traded) and go all in for Fox who fixes our need for a PG. You try to get Sabonis or Barnes along with him and find a way to get metu as a throw in. If you can’t get it don’t want Sabonis or Barnes you hope we have a first remaining to send out for a Bojan, Washington, Rui, Crowder/Craig or Saric, Lauri, etc.

Now you’ve fixed your hole at PG and PF and catch up to the teams ahead of us in the standings (basically everyone)

Fox is locked up for the next 5 years. Kings should have no interest in trading him for any perceived poo poo platter of Lowry, Duncan, and picks. What ever it takes is not enough with what's currently on our roster for a player of that caliber not named Bam.

They should accept a Donovan Mitchell type deal for Fox, they’d be dumb not to considering they’ve already been open to trading him and want to open his spot for Mitchell to grow.

Regardless, Sabonis Barnes and Metu could be good targets either way and we need the kings to struggle

[MettaWorldPanda]

Our eyes need to be on the Kings. They’re 0-3 to start and their next 2 are against the Grizzlies and us. If we take care of business they should be 0-5 by then.

You send out whatever it takes outside of Jimmy Bam and Herro (isn’t eligible to be traded) and go all in for Fox who fixes our need for a PG. You try to get Sabonis or Barnes along with him and find a way to get metu as a throw in. If you can’t get it don’t want Sabonis or Barnes you hope we have a first remaining to send out for a Bojan, Washington, Rui, Crowder/Craig or Saric, Lauri, etc.

Now you’ve fixed your hole at PG and PF and catch up to the teams ahead of us in the standings (basically everyone)

Fox is locked up for the next 5 years. Kings should have no interest in trading him for any perceived poo poo platter of Lowry, Duncan, and picks. What ever it takes is not enough with what's currently on our roster for a player of that caliber not named Bam.

They should accept a Donovan Mitchell type deal for Fox, they’d be dumb not to considering they’ve already been open to trading him and want to open his spot for Mitchell to grow.

Regardless, Sabonis Barnes and Metu could be good targets either way and we need the kings to struggle

Jazz got a great deal for Mitchell. We don't have Lauri Markkannen and Collin Sexton type of talents on this roster available to trade lol. Regardless nothing is happening of that magnitude at least not with us with the Sacramento Kings. They may do a deal of Duncan and pick for Barnes But I think that if we are giving up picks we want to get off as much money as possible and that means somebody needing to take on Lowry to make it worth while. Looking for Lowry destinations and Duncan for that matter is damn near impossible. I did find a fit with the Spurs but we will have to pay but may be worth while for the cap relief alone.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

We’re not going to punt the season for cap relief though, if you’re dealing with the Spurs you need to get Keldon back

[MettaWorldPanda]

We’re not going to punt the season for cap relief though, if you’re dealing with the Spurs you need to get Keldon back

It's a silent punt and yes considering what they are looking at cap wise next year they will be scrambling to get money off the books before Herro's extension kicks in. If they deal with the Spurs it would still have the look of getting pieces that could help them still compete with McDermott, J Rich, and Poetl while getting upwards of 30 million in savings. Those 3 pieces actually upgrade our team over what we are giving out. Imagine having Poetl come in as a backup center over Dedmon? J Rich gives us another wing defender and can handle the ball and knows our system very well. McDermott is big enough at 6'7 230 and has the 3 ball acumen to handle the starting PF duties and is also a friend of Butler's. This deal actually kills the Westbrook deal cause it actually keeps us competitive and improves the current state of the team while freeing up the cap sheet.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Time will tell, right now I’m not confident in us doing anything. Riley has fumbled nearly every step of the way with maximizing this core unit and Jimmys window

[MettaWorldPanda]

Time will tell, right now I’m not confident in us doing anything. Riley has fumbled nearly every step of the way with maximizing this core unit and Jimmys window

You are correct. The front office has been doing a piss poor job but the deal proposed above with the Spurs at least would make us somewhat interesting to watch again. I would have J Rich and Herro in the backcourt with Butler back to running the point where he's always been comfortable. McDermott would be a fantastic fit at the 4 and would be an upgrade over Crowder tbh. Poetl as the backup Center would also be a huge upgrade.

[Kobewade11]

Who went to the FO and advocated for Kyle Lowry?

[ssenbonzakura]

Absolutely no way we should try and get McDermott to play the 4. Look at the 4s in the east that McDermott would have to go up against. That would essentially be us punting the season. What we have to hope for is Bam/Yurt being able to play together, or us getting a player of Turner's caliber to pair with Bam in the front court. Barnes would be an excellent addition to this roster, but I don't know what it'll take to get him.

[twix2500]

Heat offense ranked 28th thru the 1st 4 games. Starting off at a low bar. Heat rank 18th in DHO frequency so far.



Just for Comparison. The 1st year of Nunn and Duncan starting. In November the offense ranked 9th with a 111.7 offensive ranting.

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

Time will tell, right now I’m not confident in us doing anything. Riley has fumbled nearly every step of the way with maximizing this core unit and Jimmys window

You are correct. The front office has been doing a piss poor job but the deal proposed above with the Spurs at least would make us somewhat interesting to watch again. I would have J Rich and Herro in the backcourt with Butler back to running the point where he's always been comfortable. McDermott would be a fantastic fit at the 4 and would be an upgrade over Crowder tbh. Poetl as the backup Center would also be a huge upgrade.

Yea that would definitely fill some of the holes we have right now for sure.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

The FO can do no wrong party has entered the chat lol.

Jimmy advocated for Lowry, doesn’t mean we had to do it. Jimmy is locked up long term in an organization he loves and wants to be in. And even when we went through the signing we had the opportunity to move him last summer and upgrade the position and didn’t.

LeBron advocated firing Spo, did we do it?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Heat offense ranked 28th thru the 1st 4 games. Starting off at a low bar. Heat rank 18th in DHO frequency so far.



Just for Comparison. The 1st year of Nunn and Duncan starting. In November the offense ranked 9th with a 111.7 offensive ranting.

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We’re horrible, some of us didn’t need to see it on the court to know this would be the case

[Kobewade11]

The FO can do no wrong party has entered the chat lol.

Jimmy advocated for Lowry, doesn’t mean we had to do it. Jimmy is locked up long term in an organization he loves and wants to be in. And even when we went through the signing we had the opportunity to move him last summer and upgrade the position and didn’t.

LeBron advocated firing Spo, did we do it?

Like I said, last time Im trading for one of Jimmy’s friends. And way to compare acquiring a player to firing a damn coach.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Heat offense ranked 28th thru the 1st 4 games. Starting off at a low bar. Heat rank 18th in DHO frequency so far.



Just for Comparison. The 1st year of Nunn and Duncan starting. In November the offense ranked 9th with a 111.7 offensive ranting.

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Through preseason we had the 8th best offense and defense. The 2 biggest changes from now and then are Bams volume and usage being cut in half and no Jovic/Cain.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

The FO can do no wrong party has entered the chat lol.

Jimmy advocated for Lowry, doesn’t mean we had to do it. Jimmy is locked up long term in an organization he loves and wants to be in. And even when we went through the signing we had the opportunity to move him last summer and upgrade the position and didn’t.

LeBron advocated firing Spo, did we do it?

Like I said, last time Im trading for one of Jimmy’s friends. And way to compare acquiring a player to firing a damn coach.

It’s basically the same damn thing. Spo was young and inexperienced as a head coach at that point, Lowry was a proven veteran and champion. Players advocate for players signings and coach firings all the time, doesn’t mean you have to listen.