Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games

Negrodamus · Post #41 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:04 pm

76ciology wrote:Crazy that most, including me, thought this was scripted and intentional. But looking back this is so real

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Can we go to the clip where Doc talks about James and Tyrese laying an enormous dookie on the floor on the defensive side of things? Or did that not get discussed?

Negrodamus · Post #42 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:12 pm

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Here's 2 minutes of Maxey getting skewered by Tre Jones. I think this might be part of the problem.

Ferry Avenue · Post #43 » by **Ferry Avenue** » Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:18 pm

Negrodamus wrote:

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Here's 2 minutes of Maxey getting skewered by Tre Jones. I think this might be part of the problem.

Maxey needs some serious work on dropping his hips and lowering his center of gravity and using his feet to defend. He's quick enough to guard people better than that if he improves his technique.

Negrodamus · Post #44 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:24 pm

I'm also watching Keldon Johnson and Devin Vassell highlights and my takeaway is, I think we successfully hide Harden from tough assignments because he only gets killed a few times by their best players. Since we're hiding him, that puts Maxey on an island to get absolutely abused by the other team's primary ball handler.

As I've said, Maxey and Harden need to be staggered more. Not only because they're below average defensive players, but they are also the ONLY primary ballhandlers on the roster.

mjkvol · Post #45 » by **mjkvol** » Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:51 pm

76ciology wrote:

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Difference with Embiid and Malone is Malone would take the shot before the defender recovers. On the other hand, Embiid would wait for his man recover and would rather take the challenged jumper

Night and day from Embiid. Malone made instant decisions to shoot or drive, no pump fakes, minimal putting the ball on the floor, one dribble max. Embiid has those same skills to hit the little jumper or go to the rim, but he seems to go out of his way to make it as difficult as he can.

It really sucked that Embiid had the surgery, as we expected that he would be working all summer on the P&R with Harden and it would be like a well oiled machine this season.

LeonJordanJr24 · Post #46 » by **LeonJordanJr24** » Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:28 pm

Maxey needs to be Herro and Poole role as 6th man
Melton ,Thybulle or house need to start or a starter via trade for depth purposes
Tobias needs to be traded for a 3 and D /shooter wing starter level. He is not it.
Tucker and Niang are fine at 4 and should play more 3 .
Harrell and Reed need to play more and some 4 as well next to Embiid.

Mik317 · Post #47 » by **Mik317** » Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:05 pm

Malone was also a bit smaller and more athletic than Biid but yeah the best positions off of PNR is when he just takes the shot or drives RIGHT AWAY but I am guessing that is just years of not doing it at play

76ciology · Post #48 » by **76ciology** » Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:37 am

76ciology wrote:Anyway..

Feels like a good idea to keep betting on the Sixers from the next game forward. Pacers at +11.5 looks like a trap for bettors.

youngcrev · Post #49 » by **youngcrev** » Tue Oct 25, 2022 1:56 pm

Not to beat a dead horse, but if Harden is going back to playing Harden ball, just start Melton in place of Maxey. Not enough touches for Maxey to be effective enough to make up for his deficiencies at the moment when you've got Harden dribbling a 1000 times and the team eating up half the shot clock trying to get Embiid the ball. Melton can be effective in a low usage role as a guy that generates turnovers, defends, rebounds and takes spot up 3s, and allows you hide Harden better defensively.

Plus, then you've got an elite 6th man that can legitimately change the balance of a game.

Negrodamus · Post #50 » by **Negrodamus** » Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:39 pm

youngcrev wrote:Not to beat a dead horse, but if Harden is going back to playing Harden ball, just start Melton in place of Maxey. Not enough touches for Maxey to be effective enough to make up for his deficiencies at the moment when you've got Harden dribbling a 1000 times and the team eating up half the shot clock trying to get Embiid the ball. Melton can be effective in a low usage role as a guy that generates turnovers, defends, rebounds and takes spot up 3s, and allows you hide Harden better defensively.

Plus, then you've got an elite 6th man that can legitimately change the balance of a game.

I think this can be achieved without hurt feelings. Maxey can just be the first subbed out and then stagger with Harden the remainder of the game.

youngcrev · Post #51 » by **youngcrev** » Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:01 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
youngcrev wrote:Not to beat a dead horse, but if Harden is going back to playing Harden ball, just start Melton in place of Maxey. Not enough touches for Maxey to be effective enough to make up for his deficiencies at the moment when you've got Harden dribbling a 1000 times and the team eating up half the shot clock trying to get Embiid the ball. Melton can be effective in a low usage role as a guy that generates turnovers, defends, rebounds and takes spot up 3s, and allows you hide Harden better defensively.

Plus, then you've got an elite 6th man that can legitimately change the balance of a game.

I think this can be achieved without hurt feelings. Maxey can just be the first subbed out and then stagger with Harden the remainder of the game.

Is that something we even need to worry about with Maxey? That guy seems like he's never had a bad day in his life. Just start the conversation off by sending him a link to the contract announcements for Herro and Poole.

76ciology · Post #52 » by **76ciology** » Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:34 am

If I’d have to guess.. our coaching staff wants Harden or Embiid to take high volume of OPEN mid range jumpers generated by their two man game.

And in crunch time, that’s the only time we should be looking for those “Jabstep jabstep shooting over challenged mid range jumpers” that are frustrating.

If Biid gets the ball he has to decide quick on either shooting it like how quick tobias shoots 3s or passing out again.

The problem i see now is when they run the PnR. Harden collapse the defense, he’d pass it to embiid. Embiid would do the ISO until the defense recovers. It’s basically like back then when we would kick it out to Harris and instead of Harris taking jumpers he would dribble and try to attack the defender off 1v1.

Ideally, Biid catches the ball and keep jacking up mid range jumpers and making them at a high rate. This is why you see him practicing this a lot with the trainers.

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he has problems with this style in the first two games that in the last two games, he just decides to go YOLO and drive to the basket and try to get to the line.

phillynative · Post #53 » by **phillynative** » Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:09 am

Negrodamus wrote:I'm also watching Keldon Johnson and Devin Vassell highlights and my takeaway is, I think we successfully hide Harden from tough assignments because he only gets killed a few times by their best players. Since we're hiding him, that puts Maxey on an island to get absolutely abused by the other team's primary ball handler.

As I've said, Maxey and Harden need to be staggered more. Not only because they're below average defensive players, but they are also the ONLY primary ballhandlers on the roster.

It also doesn't help that despite the backcourt being average defenders the help defense is so slow. Tobi, Tucker and Embiid aren't reacting quick enough to make up for the backcourt . They are slow lol

youngcrev · Post #54 » by **youngcrev** » Wed Oct 26, 2022 12:19 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I'm also watching Keldon Johnson and Devin Vassell highlights and my takeaway is, I think we successfully hide Harden from tough assignments because he only gets killed a few times by their best players. Since we're hiding him, that puts Maxey on an island to get absolutely abused by the other team's primary ball handler.

As I've said, Maxey and Harden need to be staggered more. Not only because they're below average defensive players, but they are also the ONLY primary ballhandlers on the roster.

It looks to me like Harden hides himself a lot on defense. Just calls for unnecessary off ball switches, making his teammates work harder so that he can just kinda stand around near the paint.

Him and Maxey are also traffic cones in transition D, which is a killer since those 2 are the only ones back a lot since they are naturally at the top of the key offensively, while your best 2 defenders have the longest distance to run back from the paint (Jo) or the corner (PJ).

More reason to split them up.

76ciology · Post #55 » by **76ciology** » Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:10 pm

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Negrodamus · Post #56 » by **Negrodamus** » Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:20 pm

LMAO, Maxey, jesus.

phillynative · Post #57 » by **phillynative** » Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:15 pm

I wonder where Tobias and Joel are

youngcrev · Post #58 » by **youngcrev** » Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:28 pm

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phillynative wrote:I wonder where Tobias and Joel are

https://nbamath.com/2020-21-nba-tpa/

Embiid is +2.73 offense, -1.36 defense per this stat
Harris is +2.87 offense, -2.87 defense

So both are somewhere in that giant mass in the middle

Post #59 » by **Stanford** » Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:34 pm

76ciology wrote:

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I can't believe anyone bothers putting something like this together after 3 games.

ProcessDoctor · Post #60 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:12 pm

We should've sold high on Maxey for a star when we had the chance. He's nothing more than a microwave scorer. Our best option now is to move him to the 6th man role, start Melton, and sprinkle in some Thybulle to help improve our piss-poor defense.

Harden(33)/Maxey(15)
Melton(28)/Maxey(12)/Thybulle(8)
Tucker(24)/House(16)/Thybulle(8)
Harris(33)/Niang(15)
Embiid(33)/Harrell(15)