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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#81 » by youngcrev » Thu Oct 27, 2022 1:23 pm

Might be time to bench Tucker, and limit the way we did Danny until the playoffs come.

I still think he's going to be a key piece on this roster to match up during the playoffs, and will be in the closing lineup but then things matter the most, but they're just to slow for the pace of the regular season, particularly when getting a regular season (preseason?) defensive effort out of your stars.

Regardless of any rotational/lineup switches to maximize fit, the biggest issue at the moment is effort, which is pretty unacceptable.
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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#82 » by Negrodamus » Thu Oct 27, 2022 1:57 pm

davesilver wrote:Curious what everyone’s top coaching candidates are. Love the idea of promoting from the inside

Mine are something like
1. Joerger
2. Cassell
3. Burke
4. D’antoni
5. Vogel


*Looking around at Harden, House, Tucker, Harrell, and Morey*

I think it'll be D'Antoni.
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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#83 » by youngcrev » Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:10 pm

If Doc gets fired that foregoes any promises made to Trez about playing time, right?
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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#84 » by youngcrev » Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:36 pm

The Sixers are:
26th in DRTG
28th in reb% (tied for worst oreb%)
25th in deflections
28th in loose balls recovered
30th in putbacks (by a huge margin)
30th in transition points scored (offense)
28th in transition points scored against
30th in transition PPP against

Gotta love that effort so far.
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Post#85 » by Negrodamus » Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:43 pm

I just want to, once again, hammer home the point that we currently have 2 ballhandlers on the roster, neither of which are actual "point guards". Harden could run the fast break at one point, but he's clearly not killing himself on either end of the transition coin these days. Maxey doesn't have any discernible distribution ability. Perhaps we should have grabbed a PG in free agency or trade before the camp.
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Post#86 » by 76ciology » Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:45 pm

Look at how you guys attack on transition while we have Biid and Tucker trailing
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Post#87 » by Negrodamus » Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:49 pm



Drop Champagnie's ass and bring in my version of Tre Jones. It's baffling he doesn't have a 2-way contract right now.
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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#88 » by youngcrev » Thu Oct 27, 2022 3:07 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I just want to, once again, hammer home the point that we currently have 2 ballhandlers on the roster, neither of which are actual "point guards". Harden could run the fast break at one point, but he's clearly not killing himself on either end of the transition coin these days. Maxey doesn't have any discernible distribution ability. Perhaps we should have grabbed a PG in free agency or trade before the camp.


I think that's just a tough quality piece to get since that guy also needs to have decent size if you're gonna play him with Maxey, be able to defend, be able to shoot, be able to distribute, and just generally be able to be effective with limited usage.

Melton's probably the closest thing they could get to fitting the criteria, and yeah, he's not really a PG.

Maybe the Bulls blow things up and we can get Ball or Caruso? Who even fits the bill that you could reasonably expect to play with what we have? Rubio...?
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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#89 » by agiaco » Thu Oct 27, 2022 3:16 pm

Negrodamus wrote:

Drop Champagnie's ass and bring in my version of Tre Jones. It's baffling he doesn't have a 2-way contract right now.


Is it? The vast majority of these g-league stars amount to nothing in the NBA.
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Post#90 » by Mik317 » Thu Oct 27, 2022 3:42 pm

MDA is not an in season hire...he has a whole system and learning that on the fly seems unwise IMO. It would probably be Joeger as he has HC experience and knows the current "system".

Whoever we hire needs to play the youth tho.
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Post#91 » by Negrodamus » Thu Oct 27, 2022 3:51 pm

agiaco wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:

Drop Champagnie's ass and bring in my version of Tre Jones. It's baffling he doesn't have a 2-way contract right now.


Is it? The vast majority of these g-league stars amount to nothing in the NBA.


It is to me. He was a pretty decorated player at Kansas with excellent number. Didn't get drafted presumably because of size (he's 6'1). He killed it in the G League last year. Excellent speed and athleticism with solid shooting mechanics.

I'm not naive to the fact that he wouldn't come in and solve our PG problem, but he's an option to groom down the road, a la Tre Jones. I don't really understand the thought process of two 2-way guys who are of similar position and have much of the same attributes.
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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#92 » by youngcrev » Thu Oct 27, 2022 3:51 pm

Mik317 wrote:MDA is not an in season hire...he has a whole system and learning that on the fly seems unwise IMO. It would probably be Joeger as he has HC experience and knows the current "system".

Whoever we hire needs to play the youth tho.


We can counteract that by trade for even more of his former players!
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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#93 » by agiaco » Thu Oct 27, 2022 3:58 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
agiaco wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:

Drop Champagnie's ass and bring in my version of Tre Jones. It's baffling he doesn't have a 2-way contract right now.


Is it? The vast majority of these g-league stars amount to nothing in the NBA.


It is to me. He was a pretty decorated player at Kansas with excellent number. Didn't get drafted presumably because of size (he's 6'1). He killed it in the G League last year. Excellent speed and athleticism with solid shooting mechanics.

I'm not naive to the fact that he wouldn't come in and solve our PG problem, but he's an option to groom down the road, a la Tre Jones. I don't really understand the thought process of two 2-way guys who are of similar position and have much of the same attributes.


I don't know much about him. It would be nice to actually hit on one of these guys especially considering how brutal the Sixers' bench is.
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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#94 » by SixthStreet » Thu Oct 27, 2022 4:01 pm

Maxey should be a bench microwave and play a lot in two big lineups with Reed and Embiid.
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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#95 » by ankle420breaker » Thu Oct 27, 2022 4:58 pm

This rotation clearly needs considerably less Tucker and more Thybulle/Reed. Every aspect of our defense has been inexcusable.

Doc and Burke should both be embarrassed.

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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#96 » by Black Mage » Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:34 pm

I still believe we need to get a real wing and quit this two PF action we keep using with Tobias & PJ. Utah feels like they could use a tank commander Tobias on their roster.
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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#97 » by Jailblazers7 » Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:37 pm

It definitely looks even crazier now that we signed PJ to 10M per year when we could have had Bruce Brown for $6M per year. But Harden/Embiid wanted PJ so it is what it is.
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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#98 » by DCasey91 » Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:49 pm

youngcrev wrote:The Sixers are:
26th in DRTG
28th in reb% (tied for worst oreb%)
25th in deflections
28th in loose balls recovered
30th in putbacks (by a huge margin)
30th in transition points scored (offense)
28th in transition points scored against
30th in transition PPP against

Gotta love that effort so far.


I think it’s a personnel issue. When Maxey is the most springy one but also the worst defender out of the 5 you have a huge problem. Also look at who we’ve versed. Basically all the opponents had good to great wing depth so they can just run and gun with little resistance because peter cannot play as paul its that simple.

Pacers play with a high amount of pace but got sucked into our slow game, the Spurs who are younger didn’t.

Danny Green wasn’t fast but jeez he’s a way better defender than Tucker. Defensive IQ is the most underrated thing in basketball personally you can’t make everyone even an average defender there has to be IQ for it.

It’s like an opposite learning strategy when the majority of kids are learning to score it means to create, but when you defend its the opposite, discipline/dampening etc. Big call but I wonder if there was a brain measuring tool equipped to the results when one person plays offence great but defence badly and compare it to a legit two way player. I do believe the end results on brain wave patterns would be noticeably different.
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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#99 » by youngcrev » Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:19 pm

DCasey91 wrote:
youngcrev wrote:The Sixers are:
26th in DRTG
28th in reb% (tied for worst oreb%)
25th in deflections
28th in loose balls recovered
30th in putbacks (by a huge margin)
30th in transition points scored (offense)
28th in transition points scored against
30th in transition PPP against

Gotta love that effort so far.


I think it’s a personnel issue. When Maxey is the most springy one but also the worst defender out of the 5 you have a huge problem. Also look at who we’ve versed. Basically all the opponents had good to great wing depth so they can just run and gun with little resistance because peter cannot play as paul its that simple.

Pacers play with a high amount of pace but got sucked into our slow game, the Spurs who are younger didn’t.

Danny Green wasn’t fast but jeez he’s a way better defender than Tucker. Defensive IQ is the most underrated thing in basketball personally you can’t make everyone even an average defender there has to be IQ for it.

It’s like an opposite learning strategy when the majority of kids are learning to score it means to create, but when you defend its the opposite, discipline/dampening etc. Big call but I wonder if there was a brain measuring tool equipped to the results when one person plays offence great but defence badly and compare it to a legit two way player. I do believe the end results on brain wave patterns would be noticeably different.


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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#100 » by mjkvol » Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:22 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I just want to, once again, hammer home the point that we currently have 2 ballhandlers on the roster, neither of which are actual "point guards". Harden could run the fast break at one point, but he's clearly not killing himself on either end of the transition coin these days. Maxey doesn't have any discernible distribution ability. Perhaps we should have grabbed a PG in free agency or trade before the camp.


Some of us were saying that and it was quickly dismissed as "we need athletic wings".

Funny thing is that we got neither.
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