Pascal is on the brink of SUPERSTARDOM...

prelude00 · Post #161 » by **prelude00** » Thu Oct 27, 2022 5:29 pm

What's awesome is his work ethic. I was admittedly hating on him in the bubble - he just had the spin move and that was figured out.

I thoyght that was it for him.

I'm glad I was wrong lol. He's been an absolute beast so far this season. Hope he keeps terrorizing the league

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Post #162 » by **HiJiNX** » Thu Oct 27, 2022 5:30 pm

Let’s be real, Siakam has taken a leap. It’s not like he’s on some hot shooting streak which is accounting for his increased numbers. Instead, he’s approached the game differently and just making better decisions with the ball. He’s also playing way better defence and is more aggressive on the back boards. He’s also asserting himself at the moments the team needs him most and creating easy shots for others. What he’s doing this year is deeper than just the numbers. Last year he had the numbers but this year he’s leading the team.

I think that a lot of folks committed to this idea that Siakam had a particular ceiling and now that he’s exceeding that, they’re having a hard time conceding that maybe they were wrong.

I can’t wait for the playoffs. I think we’re finally gonna get that series where he’s just straight up dominant.

Badonkadonk · Post #163 » by **Badonkadonk** » Thu Oct 27, 2022 5:51 pm

Marty_Budda wrote:
M3tro wrote:People just keep trying to stick a square peg into a circular hole.

Siakam is a great #2 option on a championship level team and there's nothing wrong with that. Stop trying to convince yourselves that he's suddenly elevated to a legit #1 option based on regular season numbers.

Robin still needs a Batman.

Considering there’s like 6 or 7 true Batmans in the entire league I’m ok with that. He’s a playing like a top 15 player in the nba and I think that’s really good for a guy that was compared to Hollis-Jefferson 4 years ago

These are also made up and arbitrary categories.

He's played at a 1st or 2nd team all-NBA level the first couple of weeks. People can parse that fact however they want.

AbC? · Post #164 » by **AbC?** » Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:13 pm

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/why-raptors-pascal-siakam-will-keep-launching-3s-despite-shooting-19-2-percent/

Amazing article from 2018 about Siakam's early shooting woes and how much work he put in to get to where he is today. Hyperbole is commonplace in the NBA but he literally willed himself into becoming an all-NBA caliber with his work ethic.

I hope Koloko sees how far he can get watching Siakam every day. He has a similar motor and work capacity, which is physical trait of its own, just needs to put in the hours.

Kingsway_fan · Post #165 » by **Kingsway_fan** » Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:11 pm

67 percent ft percentage ATM. If he could get that to 80 percent....

lobosloboslobos · Post #166 » by **lobosloboslobos** » Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:15 pm

HiJiNX wrote:
I think that a lot of folks committed to this idea that Siakam had a particular ceiling and now that he’s exceeding that, they’re having a hard time conceding that maybe they were wrong.

imo this is the #1 error made by posters on our board. maybe it is because there are a lot of people here who are in their 20s and 30s. but when you get older you really come to understand the basic idea that people evolve differently, and that who you are at 20 or 23 or 25 is not who you will always be. masai has always understood that what matters is not where someone is but where they are going, and how to get them there. it's the best thing we have going for us.

canada_dry · Post #167 » by **canada_dry** » Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:24 pm

newsletter wrote:Only a few weeks ago, people were appalled to even think of Pascal as a POTENTIAL top 15 player. Sure quiet now

The same clown brigade lol

Although CORRECT in saying all nba doesn't necessarily mean you're top 15...to say he cant be top 15 period was wild. Cuz guess what? Hes there right now. And hes approaching that top 10 range with the bookers and butlers

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LBJKB24MJ23 · Post #168 » by **LBJKB24MJ23** » Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:37 pm

newsletter wrote:Only a few weeks ago, people were appalled to even think of Pascal as a POTENTIAL top 15 player. Sure quiet now

no way.

LBJKB24MJ23 · Post #169 » by **LBJKB24MJ23** » Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:42 pm

HiJiNX wrote:Let’s be real, Siakam has taken a leap. It’s not like he’s on some hot shooting streak which is accounting for his increased numbers. Instead, he’s approached the game differently and just making better decisions with the ball. He’s also playing way better defence and is more aggressive on the back boards. He’s also asserting himself at the moments the team needs him most and creating easy shots for others. What he’s doing this year is deeper than just the numbers. Last year he had the numbers but this year he’s leading the team.

I think that a lot of folks committed to this idea that Siakam had a particular ceiling and now that he’s exceeding that, they’re having a hard time conceding that maybe they were wrong.

I can’t wait for the playoffs. I think we’re finally gonna get that series where he’s just straight up dominant.

I think Siakam has always had this ability but stringing an entire season together has always been the question about him.

He’s definitely a star player but I’ll hold a reservation on him being a superstar until season end. I’m just going to enjoy this run by him and see how far this version of the raptors can go in the playoffs.

Another thing is that America media probably wont say a thing about him until seasons end lol

Post #170 » by **HiJiNX** » Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:47 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
HiJiNX wrote:Let’s be real, Siakam has taken a leap. It’s not like he’s on some hot shooting streak which is accounting for his increased numbers. Instead, he’s approached the game differently and just making better decisions with the ball. He’s also playing way better defence and is more aggressive on the back boards. He’s also asserting himself at the moments the team needs him most and creating easy shots for others. What he’s doing this year is deeper than just the numbers. Last year he had the numbers but this year he’s leading the team.

I think that a lot of folks committed to this idea that Siakam had a particular ceiling and now that he’s exceeding that, they’re having a hard time conceding that maybe they were wrong.

I can’t wait for the playoffs. I think we’re finally gonna get that series where he’s just straight up dominant.

I think Siakam has always had this ability but stringing an entire season together has always been the question about him.

He’s definitely a star player but I’ll hold a reservation on him being a superstar until season end. I’m just going to enjoy this run by him and see how far this version of the raptors can go in the playoffs.

Another thing is that America media probably wont say a thing about him until seasons end lol

I mean, he’s definitely been showing flashes of this ability for a few seasons, with respect to scoring anyway. But the playmaking and intentional manipulation of defences only started to emerge in March and April of last year, and I think we are seeing even more of that right now. He’s also improved in the midrange, has better balance on his pull-up, more arc/touch on it, has a go-to move, and keeps his handle much lower. A lot of micro improvements from him between last season and this one so far. Hopefully he can keep it going.

As for whether or not he’s a superstar, I wouldn’t say that he is because I think there are very few players in the league who have that kind of impact, but he’s definitely flirting with that 8-15 range right now.

LBJKB24MJ23 · Post #171 » by **LBJKB24MJ23** » Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:05 am

HiJiNX wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
HiJiNX wrote:Let’s be real, Siakam has taken a leap. It’s not like he’s on some hot shooting streak which is accounting for his increased numbers. Instead, he’s approached the game differently and just making better decisions with the ball. He’s also playing way better defence and is more aggressive on the back boards. He’s also asserting himself at the moments the team needs him most and creating easy shots for others. What he’s doing this year is deeper than just the numbers. Last year he had the numbers but this year he’s leading the team.

I think that a lot of folks committed to this idea that Siakam had a particular ceiling and now that he’s exceeding that, they’re having a hard time conceding that maybe they were wrong.

I can’t wait for the playoffs. I think we’re finally gonna get that series where he’s just straight up dominant.

I think Siakam has always had this ability but stringing an entire season together has always been the question about him.

He’s definitely a star player but I’ll hold a reservation on him being a superstar until season end. I’m just going to enjoy this run by him and see how far this version of the raptors can go in the playoffs.

Another thing is that America media probably wont say a thing about him until seasons end lol

I mean, he’s definitely been showing flashes of this ability for a few seasons, with respect to scoring anyway. But the playmaking and intentional manipulation of defences only started to emerge in March and April of last year, and I think we are seeing even more of that right now. He’s also improved in the midrange, has better balance on his pull-up, more arc/touch on it, has a go-to move, and keeps his handle much lower. A lot of micro improvements from him between last season and this one so far. Hopefully he can keep it going.

As for whether or not he’s a superstar, I wouldn’t say that he is because I think there are very few players in the league who have that kind of impact, but he’s definitely flirting with that 8-15 range right now.

He’s getting there in terms of gravity. Look at his assists. He’s finding open players - someone is leaving their man. The game is much easier to him this year so far.

raptor jesus · Post #172 » by **raptor jesus** » Fri Oct 28, 2022 3:18 am

Pascal low-key made a big leap as a passer in the 20-21 season; it seemed to go largely unnoticed though, maybe because ppl were so down on him after his bubble performance, and it was overshadowed by his shooting struggles/confidence issues scoring the ball. Now we're seeing it in full bloom, paired with his renewed offensive swagger, and it's super impressive to watch him continue to elevate his game.

canada_dry · Post #173 » by **canada_dry** » Fri Oct 28, 2022 3:45 am

I don't think hes a superstar btw. To me a superstar ends with the kawhis and lebrons rounding out the top 8 or so players. I dont think tatum is a superstar yet(could be. This year. We'll see), nor is pg, nor is booker. Siakam is on his way to that conversation, but not superstardom. That title can't be thrown around lightly.

Talks about him peaking tho was just so blatantly laughable this offseason. It always is. Everyone always said demars peaked. Lowrys peaked. Fvv has peaked. Siakam has peaked. But they always come back better. How about we retire the "peaked" takes because on this team you just don't know.

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LoveMyRaps · Post #174 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Fri Oct 28, 2022 4:55 am

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
newsletter wrote:Only a few weeks ago, people were appalled to even think of Pascal as a POTENTIAL top 15 player. Sure quiet now

no way.

yeah it was idiots of others fanbases that don't pay attention to our team.
same crowd that was screaming ingram, brown, etc. being better than pascal. loool
heck i even saw a crowd on twitter over the summer that said they'd take simmons over pascal in a 2016 redraft. comical.

GreatWhiteStiff · Post #175 » by **GreatWhiteStiff** » Fri Oct 28, 2022 5:01 am

Kingsway_fan wrote:67 percent ft percentage ATM. If he could get that to 80 percent....

He literally doesn't need to improve on free throws. He's been at 78.5% the last several years. An improvement to 80% is pretty irrelevant, it's 2 points per hundred attempts. It would be nice, but won't make or break him as a player and isn't some imaginary number of excellence. He's already there basicly.

Gold Dragon · Post #176 » by **Gold Dragon** » Fri Oct 28, 2022 6:24 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
newsletter wrote:Only a few weeks ago, people were appalled to even think of Pascal as a POTENTIAL top 15 player. Sure quiet now

no way.

yeah it was idiots of others fanbases that don't pay attention to our team.
same crowd that was screaming ingram, brown, etc. being better than pascal. loool
heck i even saw a crowd on twitter over the summer that said they'd take simmons over pascal in a 2016 redraft. comical.

We are talking about people here. Folks who have likely watched close to every game pascal has played.

GreatWhiteStiff · Post #177 » by **GreatWhiteStiff** » Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:07 am

Johnny Bball wrote:Where's the thread with people swearing up and down he's just a top 30 player and not a first option?

Not only that but he was worse than Wiggins, Johnny. Worse than wiggins. Golden State fans were very comfortable having Wiggins on their team vs Siakam straight up. Sometimes the grass is simply greener on your own side of the fence, even if its being neglected, you don't water and it's during a drought.

libertyYYZ · Post #178 » by **libertyYYZ** » Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:26 am

Bit long (10 min), but a decent walkthrough of how Sixers tried to defend Siakim and the different defensive sequences to counter what he was doing.

TL;DW -- He ate everything they threw at him.

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LoveMyRaps · Post #179 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Tue Nov 1, 2022 2:01 am

Read on Twitter

SUPERSTAR P.

pingpongrac · Post #180 » by **pingpongrac** » Tue Nov 1, 2022 2:11 am

26.1/9.6/7.4 on 57 TS% through 7 games against playoff-level teams while being a plus defender too. With a bunch of games coming up against mediocre teams with not many people to defend Siakam, I anticipate a whole lot more of these 30/10/5 type of games over the next few weeks.

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