2022-2023 Magic Trade and Free Agency Idea Thread

[Knightro]

This is a thread to share any Magic trade ideas for this season and/or this summer.

I'll get it started...

Markelle Fultz: 16.5M (only $2M guaranteed for next season)
Gary Harris: 13M (2nd year is fully unguaranteed)
Terrence Ross: 11.5M expiring
Mo Bamba: 10.3M (2nd year is fully unguaranteed)

for

Russell Westbrook
Two minimum salary players (doesn't matter which two)
2027 1st Round Pick
2029 1st Round Pick

Why do the Lakers do it? The preserve their cap space for this summer and get four rotation players to put into their rotation immediately. Two first round picks is steep, but they have no choice other than to chase the playoffs this season since they already owe their 2023 and 2024 1st Rounders to New Orleans. In this deal, LA gets three shooters and a backup PG.

Why do the Magic do it? Orlando fully embraces the tank by dumping all of their veterans. Magic would buy Westbrook out without him playing a single game for the franchise. This actually gives the Magic $2M more in cap space this summer by dropping Fultz's partial guarantee. The two first round picks incoming would give the Magic four additional first rounders over the next seven drafts which would be additional ammo to be used in their pursuit of a star in a trade this summer.

[thelead]

Brandon Boston (20) would be a great target IMO.

[drsd]

Orlando is shooting a paltry 44.6% and is at a horrible 29.9% with the three ball. This team must trade for distance shooting.

[drsd]

Orlando is shooting a paltry 44.6% and is at a horrible 29.9% with the three ball. This team must trade for distance shooting.

Amazingly, Jalen Suggs has had a 44.4% three ball on medium volume (2.0/4.5 per). Maybe he is the Magic's sharp-shooting ace here !!!!

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[pepe1991]

You could help Heat

They give you Robinson, you give him Bamba and Okeke as salary relief.


Same salary helpout for contender is for Bertans and Hardaway if they want to escape that disaster as well.

You could help Nets become top tear contender by trading Joe Harris & Royce O'neal for Wendell Carter and ashes of former nba player named Jonathan.


You could buy off Romeo Langford or J Rich or McDermott for whatever , i highly doubt anything expensive...

Probably plenty of other moves are possible. Issue is that Magic don't want to improve roster nor want to add more salary. Witch leaves them with just cheap, filler trades and horisontal roster changes that neither upgrade nor downgrade roster.

[Skybox]

Instant backcourt makeover for immediate AND long-term improvement...

Trade #1) Mo Bamba and TRoss to UTA for Mike Conley...ORL trades the bulk of this summer's financial flexibility to a deep tanking team for a 40% 3pt shooting veteran game manager. Conley mentors Suggs for a couple years, while teaching our young prospects how to play the right way. Not sure if Ainge requires a second or two or if he just values offloading talent and another year of guaranteed $$. Conley , if he's still around in a few years (when we're contending) gracefully transitions to a reasonably priced solid backup.

Trade #2) Markelle Fultz and DEN '25frp to TOR for Gary Trent Jr...It seems like TOR doesn't want to pay GTJ (at least on RealGM), so this is a huge gamble that we can retain him in his upcoming free agency. We'd have to have some kind of handshake with his agency. I'm thinking TOR would take a good pick and call it a win but Fultz, on his own, could actually be really good for TOR's stable of versatile bigs. At worst, his contract is not fully guaranteed, so TOR could pocket the pick and move Fultz along. They could have Okeke or RJ Hampton as well, if they want to add an inexpensive prospect to what seems to me, to already be fair. Expect to pay GTJ $25m/year. I'd considered Isaac instead of Fultz, which would be a HUGE win for TOR if he gets healthy, but TOR is vaccine mandatory territory.

We still have two really good looking picks this year and all of our own picks going forward. So, we try to find our forever PG in the lottery and have a great role model and placeholder here to show him the way. Trent is very young, good sized, and shoots 3's at a near-elite clip. His defensive play took a very positive turn last season as well. Playing off of our unselfish forwards, he could hit for 25 points anytime opponents choose to double or triple Paolo. Trade #1 can't happen until December, so we keep losing ugly until then for lottery's sake. Those two '23 frps should yield at least one foundation piece and maybe a solid bench player.

Conley, Jalen Suggs/Cole Anthony
Gary Trent, Gary Harris, RJ?
Franz Wagner, Caleb Houstan, Okeke?
Paolo Banchero, Jonathan Isaac, Bol Bol
Wendell Carter, Moe Wagner

There's lots of versatility in our frontcourt. I could see Isaac backing up all 3 spots. Not sure how Suggs and Anthony fit longer term. I'm banking on Suggs transitioning into a feisty combo PG and I'd see what I get for Cole on the market-he's good, just not for us. Cole is ready to help a playoff team as a scorer off the bench right now - he's just not the game manager we need.

[JBSouthpaw]

Moe Wags & 2023 2nd rnd pick for Max Strus.

Miami needs an upgrade in their front court bench.
Bol Bol filling Moe's roll nicely (would rather trade Bamba, but he makes too much)

[jonbob17]

This is a thread to share any Magic trade ideas for this season and/or this summer.

I'll get it started...

Markelle Fultz: 16.5M (only $2M guaranteed for next season)
Gary Harris: 13M (2nd year is fully unguaranteed)
Terrence Ross: 11.5M expiring
Mo Bamba: 10.3M (2nd year is fully unguaranteed)

for

Russell Westbrook
Two minimum salary players (doesn't matter which two)
2027 1st Round Pick
2029 1st Round Pick

The lakers can do better than this. The Indiana deal of Turner and Hield is better and word is the Lakers won't even do that. I don't think the Lakers move those picks unless it is meaningful deal, because those are literally the only assets they have outside Lebron and Davis.

If I am the Magic I make this trade in a second. because why not, buy out WB, no one is sure if the Lakers will be able to reload their lineup by 2027, so the picks will be valuable as trade bait.

[jonbob17]

Orlando is shooting a paltry 44.6% and is at a horrible 29.9% with the three ball. This team must trade for distance shooting.

Amazingly, Jalen Suggs has had a 44.4% three ball on medium volume (2.0/4.5 per). Maybe he is the Magic's sharp-shooting ace here !!!!

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I can't tell if you are being serious. He was 4/4 in about a 5 minute span, and outside that stretch he is 0/5. Nine shots.

I am all for Suggs being good, but let's wait until he logs some minutes.

[jonbob17]

I'd see about moving the Magic 2023 2nd and another acquired 2nd for Hield. He's under contract for two more years. It will give our young guys an outlet that they can trust to make shots.

It's seems like a cheap price, but maybe the Pacers do it if they are more concerned with their draft selection for this year, also a reason why the Magic might not be interested. The Magic 2nd has the potential to be pretty valuable.

I just think it's going to be a long discouraging season for our front court, if none of the perimeter players consistently hit shots.

Bigger trades just have to wait and see what happens with Fultz and Suggs, to see where are holes truly are. I might have to add WCJ to that list, truly excited about him coming into this year, and it's only 5 games, but i am starting to wonder if he can play the 5 as well as he played the 4/5 last year. Uggh...I wasn't expecting the 5 to be a problem this year....at least WCJ is getting to the line more and making them well...hopefully the distance follows.

The FA market has been bare the last few years, but there will be some interesting players this year that might have reasons not to re-sign with their current team. Kyrie, maybe Middleton, Bogdan Bog...Trent, Beasley...meh maybe not that great. Bogdan stands out more than the rest

[Knightro]

The lakers can do better than this. The Indiana deal of Turner and Hield is better and word is the Lakers won't even do that. I don't think the Lakers move those picks unless it is meaningful deal, because those are literally the only assets they have outside Lebron and Davis.

If I am the Magic I make this trade in a second. because why not, buy out WB, no one is sure if the Lakers will be able to reload their lineup by 2027, so the picks will be valuable as trade bait.

I'm not sure about that though.

I do agree that Turner and Hield give them more on the court this year than Fultz/Harris/Ross/Bamba would, but Hield is also set to make $19.2M next year which would eliminate most of the cap space they're projected to have if they just let Russ walk or trade him for just expiring contracts.

It's a three-fold process for LA in my opinion.

1. The addition by subtraction of removing Russ
2. Adding much needed perimeter shooting to this year's team in an effort to make the playoffs/play in
3. Preserving as much cap space as possible for the summer of 2023 so they can pursue a big name (Kyrie? Middleton?)

[jonbob17]

The lakers can do better than this. The Indiana deal of Turner and Hield is better and word is the Lakers won't even do that. I don't think the Lakers move those picks unless it is meaningful deal, because those are literally the only assets they have outside Lebron and Davis.

If I am the Magic I make this trade in a second. because why not, buy out WB, no one is sure if the Lakers will be able to reload their lineup by 2027, so the picks will be valuable as trade bait.

I'm not sure about that though.

I do agree that Turner and Hield give them more on the court this year than Fultz/Harris/Ross/Bamba would, but Hield is also set to make $19.2M next year which would eliminate most of the cap space they're projected to have if they just let Russ walk or trade him for just expiring contracts.

It's a three-fold process for LA in my opinion.

1. The addition by subtraction of removing Russ
2. Adding much needed perimeter shooting to this year's team in an effort to make the playoffs/play in
3. Preserving as much cap space as possible for the summer of 2023 so they can pursue a big name (Kyrie? Middleton?)

Yah I don't think the Lakers trade for Turner or Hield either. Does Turner and Hield put them in title contention, probably not. I think they just eat this year, and try to use those draft picks to add later. Again those draft picks are the only thing that can bring back value and help them add in addition to capspace left by Russ. Maybe if Beal or Kyrie or someone came available they might push their chips in...not sure its enough either

[MartinsIzAfraud]

I want Tyus Jones BADLY but I doubt Memphis would move him. Dude is a quality backup PG who knows his role and can run an offense.

[thelead]

I want Tyus Jones BADLY but I doubt Memphis would move him. Dude is a quality backup PG who knows his role and can run an offense.

I like him too but he’s their starting PG when Ja is injured. I don’t think they would trade him unless they’re winning the deal by a mile.

[Knightro]

Yah I don't think the Lakers trade for Turner or Hield either. Does Turner and Hield put them in title contention, probably not. I think they just eat this year, and try to use those draft picks to add later. Again those draft picks are the only thing that can bring back value and help them add in addition to capspace left by Russ. Maybe if Beal or Kyrie or someone came available they might push their chips in...not sure its enough either

I mean there's not going to be literally any trade, no matter how many unprotected firsts they include, involving Westbrook that's going to put the Lakers into title contention.

But IMO they can't just slog through a 30 win season with Westbrook on the roster. They owe it to LeBron and to Davis to try and at least make the playoffs.

Flipping Westbrook for expiring shooters seems like the best case scenario for the Lakers right now.

[Knightro]

I want Tyus Jones BADLY but I doubt Memphis would move him. Dude is a quality backup PG who knows his role and can run an offense.

I like him too but he’s their starting PG when Ja is injured. I don’t think they would trade him unless they’re winning the deal by a mile.

His brother Tre is a restricted free agent to be

I'd be interested in him this summer.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

I want Tyus Jones BADLY but I doubt Memphis would move him. Dude is a quality backup PG who knows his role and can run an offense.

I like him too but he’s their starting PG when Ja is injured. I don’t think they would trade him unless they’re winning the deal by a mile.

Yeah and he's shown he can go off when given more minutes. The Day Orlando has a healthy capable PG will be the day this team takes the next step, until then we get to play " If my nan had balls" or "what if & but"

[VFX]

I want Tyus Jones BADLY but I doubt Memphis would move him. Dude is a quality backup PG who knows his role and can run an offense.

I like him too but he’s their starting PG when Ja is injured. I don’t think they would trade him unless they’re winning the deal by a mile.

I wish:

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=22l38dym

[Knightro]

Tre Jones is a free agent at the end of the year. The Magic could just sign him if they want him. They'll have the cap space.

But I also do understand the thought process behind acquiring his RFA rights to ensure he can't leave and the value that provides.

[thelead]

I want Tyus Jones BADLY but I doubt Memphis would move him. Dude is a quality backup PG who knows his role and can run an offense.

I like him too but he’s their starting PG when Ja is injured. I don’t think they would trade him unless they’re winning the deal by a mile.

I wish:

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=22l38dym

As a heads up, Tre Jones is a career 25% three point shooter. Markelle is actually a better 3pt shooter at 26%