Nets vs Mavs---- NBA TV AND YES, 7:30 PM EDT GAME THREAD

[MrDollarBills]

It's actually wasn't a bad game. There's something to look for if they keep same effort.
1. Need stretch five who can block shot on help D
2. Need TJ, that 3 consistent scorer is lacking.
3. D showed some signs of improvement. Couldn't execute same play in OT, but that can be fixed with chemistry.

All this can be worked out, it's just I don't like KD face expressions and body language. I just don't think he’s committed 100%. Yeah numbers there, but that effort and enthusiasm towards the game ... I don't know, I just don't like it.

Kyrie balled out, Ben starting to show signs he can be that All Star Ben again with time, DDJ had a good run, Yuta/ Sumner Need more PT etc.

All and all, if they keep this effort up and build something from here, this can be a dangerous team come PO.

KD has one foot out the door. Kyrie for all his faults is trying to win the game but is resorting to too much hero ball.

That being said I agree, the players made some strides last night. But it might not matter at all. Nash sucks, fan interest has been killed, and we can't close out good teams. I expect some drama or BS to flare up real soon if we can't string together wins.

[MrDollarBills]

Btw that ass hole who threw a cup at Luka got arrested.

It's embarrassing that someone from this fanbase did that.

Why does everything about this team have to be so depressing

[NetsWorld]

It's actually wasn't a bad game. There's something to look for if they keep same effort.
1. Need stretch five who can block shot on help D
2. Need TJ, that 3 consistent scorer is lacking.
3. D showed some signs of improvement. Couldn't execute same play in OT, but that can be fixed with chemistry.

All this can be worked out, it's just I don't like KD face expressions and body language. I just don't think he’s committed 100%. Yeah numbers there, but that effort and enthusiasm towards the game ... I don't know, I just don't like it.

Kyrie balled out, Ben starting to show signs he can be that All Star Ben again with time, DDJ had a good run, Yuta/ Sumner Need more PT etc.

All and all, if they keep this effort up and build something from here, this can be a dangerous team come PO.

KD has one foot out the door. Kyrie for all his faults is trying to win the game but is resorting to too much hero ball.

That being said I agree, the players made some strides last night. But it might not matter at all. Nash sucks, fan interest has been killed, and we can't close out good teams. I expect some drama or BS to flare up real soon if we can't string together wins.

Might as well revisit trading KD; this guy isn't the same for whatever reason and he is clearly showing he doesn't want to be here; can't handle adversity. I would trade KD for Ingram and three picks and get it done with. Ingram is a superstar, younger and has the IT factor in him even if he is not as good as KD. Ingram doesn't back down and will hustle his ass off. C'mon Marks, get this **** over with and get us Ingram and fire Nash.

[Keith Van Horn]

It's actually wasn't a bad game. There's something to look for if they keep same effort.
1. Need stretch five who can block shot on help D
2. Need TJ, that 3 consistent scorer is lacking.
3. D showed some signs of improvement. Couldn't execute same play in OT, but that can be fixed with chemistry.

All this can be worked out, it's just I don't like KD face expressions and body language. I just don't think he’s committed 100%. Yeah numbers there, but that effort and enthusiasm towards the game ... I don't know, I just don't like it.

Kyrie balled out, Ben starting to show signs he can be that All Star Ben again with time, DDJ had a good run, Yuta/ Sumner Need more PT etc.

All and all, if they keep this effort up and build something from here, this can be a dangerous team come PO.

KD has one foot out the door. Kyrie for all his faults is trying to win the game but is resorting to too much hero ball.

That being said I agree, the players made some strides last night. But it might not matter at all. Nash sucks, fan interest has been killed, and we can't close out good teams. I expect some drama or BS to flare up real soon if we can't string together wins.

Full disclosure - I haven't focused in yet and really watched a game 100% full and through (tbh, Idk if I've done that since the 20-21 season lol)

I'm trying to keep the optimism high. But I agree, KD does look somewhat disinterested. And I can't get the taste out of my mouth from this past offseason. All that drama. My fan interest has waned considerably since the 2019/2020ish time period.
And it does seem like Nash has worn out his welcome. I like the man, and maybe as an assistant coach, but these guys need someone with true, veteran coaching chops.

I'll try to watch a full game next week. Miss you all.

[MrDollarBills]

It's actually wasn't a bad game. There's something to look for if they keep same effort.
1. Need stretch five who can block shot on help D
2. Need TJ, that 3 consistent scorer is lacking.
3. D showed some signs of improvement. Couldn't execute same play in OT, but that can be fixed with chemistry.

All this can be worked out, it's just I don't like KD face expressions and body language. I just don't think he’s committed 100%. Yeah numbers there, but that effort and enthusiasm towards the game ... I don't know, I just don't like it.

Kyrie balled out, Ben starting to show signs he can be that All Star Ben again with time, DDJ had a good run, Yuta/ Sumner Need more PT etc.

All and all, if they keep this effort up and build something from here, this can be a dangerous team come PO.

KD has one foot out the door. Kyrie for all his faults is trying to win the game but is resorting to too much hero ball.

That being said I agree, the players made some strides last night. But it might not matter at all. Nash sucks, fan interest has been killed, and we can't close out good teams. I expect some drama or BS to flare up real soon if we can't string together wins.

Full disclosure - I haven't focused in yet and really watched a game 100% full and through (tbh, Idk if I've done that since the 20-21 season lol)

I'm trying to keep the optimism high. But I agree, KD does look somewhat disinterested. And I can't get the taste out of my mouth from this past offseason. All that drama. My fan interest has waned considerably since the 2019/2020ish time period.
And it does seem like Nash has worn out his welcome. I like the man, and maybe as an assistant coach, but these guys need someone with true, veteran coaching chops.

I'll try to watch a full game next week. Miss you all.

Judging by the poor season ticket sales, your position is shared by many other Nets fans.

The Nash/KD/Kyrie era has literally killed a fanbase that wasn't even that large to begin with.

[ChuckS]

...it's just I don't like KD face expressions and body language. I just don't think he’s committed 100%. Yeah numbers there, but that effort and enthusiasm towards the game ... I don't know, I just don't like it.

A lot of people said something like that. Personally, I didn't see it. I suspect it might have been just...gas. It's apparently a chronic condition that has kept him from becoming a dynamic scorer. Hopefully some day he'll let it all loose and just soar.

Something else I missed completely came from a highly respected source, said to be close to an upper level latrine. He said Kevin was choking on something and that it happens a lot.

Who the heck knows? But thinking about it, both symptoms could be related to the Tex Mex food down there. Look what it has done to Luka's body.

[Nycspirit718]

Another morning starts and this clown still hasnt gotten rid of nash smh

[MGrand15]

I see the same thing with KD. He's playing hard. He's trying his best. I won't knock his effort. But the body language and enthusiasm isn't there like it used to be.

I was completely expecting this loss so I'm not surprised but I think we all knew the situation going into this year. This is a fragile team. We're not ready to handle tough times. Tomorrow is literally Game 6 and I don't think it's an exaggeration to say it's a must win. Indiana is 1-4. Rebuilding. They're playing us on the 2nd half of a back to back in Brooklyn. We should have Harris + Curry + Morris back. No excuse for a loss.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Sixers fans blamed Ben for all their problems. Then they got Harden and they did even worse in the playoffs lol.

[Hello Brooklyn]

KD trying his best.

Kyrie doing well.

Ben is getting better every game.

Its really just this HORRIFIC defense! Thats the **** problem.

Constantly overhelping and leaving 3 point shooters open. Its coaching! Change the damn scheme.

We can't win any game while gifting the other wise 3 pointers constantly.

Nash is ALWAYS the issue.

[gigantes]

Zach Lowe evidently just roasted the Nets, but it's paywalled.
https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/34890754/lowe-10-things-dislike-including-filthy-ja-morant-banishment-stupidest-nba-rule

Anybody have access to the relevant bit?

[TheNetsFan]

KD trying his best.

Kyrie doing well.

Ben is getting better every game.

Its really just this HORRIFIC defense! Thats the **** problem.

Constantly overhelping and leaving 3 point shooters open. Its coaching! Change the damn scheme.

We can't win any game while gifting the other wise 3 pointers constantly.

Nash is ALWAYS the issue.

RJ was calling it out all game. We doubled Luka too early, too high & gave up way too many open 3s after one simple pass as a result. Once again our "Defensive Coordinator" Jacques Vaughn is a horrific coach.

I don't know why, especially in overtime, we didn't give Ben a shot at guarding Luka 1 on 1.

[Hello Brooklyn]

KD trying his best.

Kyrie doing well.

Ben is getting better every game.

Its really just this HORRIFIC defense! Thats the **** problem.

Constantly overhelping and leaving 3 point shooters open. Its coaching! Change the damn scheme.

We can't win any game while gifting the other wise 3 pointers constantly.

Nash is ALWAYS the issue.

RJ was calling it out all game. We doubled Luka too early, too high & gave up way too many open 3s after one simple pass as a result. Once again our "Defensive Coordinator" Jacques Vaughn is a horrific coach.

I don't know why, especially in overtime, we didn't give Ben a shot at guarding Luka 1 on 1.

Yes. Posters have been calling it out on here for years.

How the **** has nobody on the coaching staff ever fixed it???

And I agree not putting Ben on Luka was idiotic. We kept putting Kyrie on him.

This coaching staff is brain dead.

[MrDollarBills]

KD trying his best.

Kyrie doing well.

Ben is getting better every game.

Its really just this HORRIFIC defense! Thats the **** problem.

Constantly overhelping and leaving 3 point shooters open. Its coaching! Change the damn scheme.

We can't win any game while gifting the other wise 3 pointers constantly.

Nash is ALWAYS the issue.

RJ was calling it out all game. We doubled Luka too early, too high & gave up way too many open 3s after one simple pass as a result. Once again our "Defensive Coordinator" Jacques Vaughn is a horrific coach.

I don't know why, especially in overtime, we didn't give Ben a shot at guarding Luka 1 on 1.

We constantly leave good 3 point shooters open. I don't know what these guys are watching.

Ben should have been glued to Luka in OT. But again, there's no coaching involved at all.

[Shark]

KD trying his best.

Kyrie doing well.

Ben is getting better every game.

Its really just this HORRIFIC defense! Thats the **** problem.

Constantly overhelping and leaving 3 point shooters open. Its coaching! Change the damn scheme.

We can't win any game while gifting the other wise 3 pointers constantly.

Nash is ALWAYS the issue.

RJ was calling it out all game. We doubled Luka too early, too high & gave up way too many open 3s after one simple pass as a result. Once again our "Defensive Coordinator" Jacques Vaughn is a horrific coach.

I don't know why, especially in overtime, we didn't give Ben a shot at guarding Luka 1 on 1.

Yes. Posters have been calling it out on here for years.

How the **** has nobody on the coaching staff ever fixed it???

And I agree not putting Ben on Luka was idiotic. We kept putting Kyrie on him.

This coaching staff is brain dead.

The weirdest thing is that for the last few minutes of regulation we did pretty much guard Luka 1 on 1 on the perimeter. Duke, Yutaka, and Ben all did well. But in OT it was as if Nash and Vaughn suddenly had a bout of amnesia and went with the early double team and effectively ended any chance we had of winning.

This isn't ever going to get better, but Marks is content watching these fools fumble simple game strategy. Time and again they seemingly stumble upon something that works only to remember they have some stupid strategy that they have to go back to. I'm so tired of this.

[Hello Brooklyn]

RJ was calling it out all game. We doubled Luka too early, too high & gave up way too many open 3s after one simple pass as a result. Once again our "Defensive Coordinator" Jacques Vaughn is a horrific coach.

I don't know why, especially in overtime, we didn't give Ben a shot at guarding Luka 1 on 1.

Yes. Posters have been calling it out on here for years.

How the **** has nobody on the coaching staff ever fixed it???

And I agree not putting Ben on Luka was idiotic. We kept putting Kyrie on him.

This coaching staff is brain dead.

The weirdest thing is that for the last few minutes of regulation we did pretty much guard Luka 1 on 1 on the perimeter. Duke, Yutaka, and Ben all did well. But in OT it was as if Nash and Vaughn suddenly had a bout of amnesia and went with the early double team and effectively ended any chance we had of winning.

This isn't ever going to get better, but Marks is content watching these fools fumble simple game strategy. Time and again they seemingly stumble upon something that works only to remember they have some stupid strategy that they have to go back to. I'm so tired of this.

We have the talent to compete in all of these games. But have horrid execution. Once coaches make adjustments to us we are cooked.

Nash never should have been hired in the first place. Great players don't often make good coaches anyway.

You need experience in this league to succeed as a coach. Nash has not learned the basics yet.

If we hired Ty Lue I think we are easily the best team in the East right now.

[Hello Brooklyn]

KD trying his best.

Kyrie doing well.

Ben is getting better every game.

Its really just this HORRIFIC defense! Thats the **** problem.

Constantly overhelping and leaving 3 point shooters open. Its coaching! Change the damn scheme.

We can't win any game while gifting the other wise 3 pointers constantly.

Nash is ALWAYS the issue.

RJ was calling it out all game. We doubled Luka too early, too high & gave up way too many open 3s after one simple pass as a result. Once again our "Defensive Coordinator" Jacques Vaughn is a horrific coach.

I don't know why, especially in overtime, we didn't give Ben a shot at guarding Luka 1 on 1.

We constantly leave good 3 point shooters open. I don't know what these guys are watching.

Ben should have been glued to Luka in OT. But again, there's no coaching involved at all.

Ben did the BEST on Luka.

Let him try to guard him 1 on 1. Don't give up **** 3s!

Its not that complciated.

[NetsWorld]

RJ was calling it out all game. We doubled Luka too early, too high & gave up way too many open 3s after one simple pass as a result. Once again our "Defensive Coordinator" Jacques Vaughn is a horrific coach.

I don't know why, especially in overtime, we didn't give Ben a shot at guarding Luka 1 on 1.

We constantly leave good 3 point shooters open. I don't know what these guys are watching.

Ben should have been glued to Luka in OT. But again, there's no coaching involved at all.

Ben did the BEST on Luka.

Let him try to guard him 1 on 1. Don't give up **** 3s!

Its not that complciated.

The issue goes back to Steve Trash ultimately. I don't know why Nash had them shift from 1 on 1 to double teaming and Luka essentially found very good three-point shooters open and we paid the price for it. With Luka, if you defend him tight, he struggles, Claxton-Simmons both harassed him at times and when he needs to pass, it can result in a turnover but Nets shifted from that game plan. Vaughn-Nash are two unmitigated disasters, and I just don't want Nash coaching anymore.

[GTR11]

It's actually wasn't a bad game. There's something to look for if they keep same effort.
1. Need stretch five who can block shot on help D
2. Need TJ, that 3 consistent scorer is lacking.
3. D showed some signs of improvement. Couldn't execute same play in OT, but that can be fixed with chemistry.

All this can be worked out, it's just I don't like KD face expressions and body language. I just don't think he’s committed 100%. Yeah numbers there, but that effort and enthusiasm towards the game ... I don't know, I just don't like it.

Kyrie balled out, Ben starting to show signs he can be that All Star Ben again with time, DDJ had a good run, Yuta/ Sumner Need more PT etc.

All and all, if they keep this effort up and build something from here, this can be a dangerous team come PO.

KD has one foot out the door. Kyrie for all his faults is trying to win the game but is resorting to too much hero ball.

That being said I agree, the players made some strides last night. But it might not matter at all. Nash sucks, fan interest has been killed, and we can't close out good teams. I expect some drama or BS to flare up real soon if we can't string together wins.

We on the same boat here. This team ain't winning jack sh**. Not with this coach. Talent can only take this far.

Just evaluating talent. Pretty much what Borega or Snyder doing right now. They watching Brown, Ingram, Ben etc players to see when they can step in and start their quickest rebuild to the chip.

Let not get it twisted, Sean will rebuild in a year. Whatever he say is a myth, cap is set.

[GTR11]

RJ was calling it out all game. We doubled Luka too early, too high & gave up way too many open 3s after one simple pass as a result. Once again our "Defensive Coordinator" Jacques Vaughn is a horrific coach.

I don't know why, especially in overtime, we didn't give Ben a shot at guarding Luka 1 on 1.

We constantly leave good 3 point shooters open. I don't know what these guys are watching.

Ben should have been glued to Luka in OT. But again, there's no coaching involved at all.

Ben did the BEST on Luka.

Let him try to guard him 1 on 1. Don't give up **** 3s!

Its not that complciated.

Wondering why we got Ben here for. If they had no plans for him going forward why not trade him during this summer. Hiding him on THJ between baseline and 3 is as a nine.