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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#121 » by ProcessDoctor » Fri Oct 28, 2022 4:42 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I know Kobble won't like it but:

Harrison Barnes
Terence Davis
Lamb

for Tobi

It's clear this experiment isn't working with Tobi as he's not C&S. Barnes fills that role better. Terence Davis is a a bulky SG who can fill in that SF slot. Both have 1 year left on their contract, so would relieve us of this contract early.


Use Sacramento to get Draymond here!

GSW: Green for Barnes/Thybyllle

PHI: Harris/Thybulle/Springer for Green/Holmes/Davis

SAC: Barnes/Holmes/Davis for Harris/Springer
2025-2026 Philadelphia 76ers:

Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
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Embiid/Drummond/Bona/Broome
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Post#122 » by mjkvol » Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:52 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:Who is gonna trade us multiple usable players for Tobias Harris tho? We don’t even have picks to trade to entice a tanking team to take him for their good players.

I think our only option is a bad contract for bad contract deal which is why I’m so obsessed with the idea of a Gordon Hayward trade.


In a freaking heartbeat I do that deal.
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Post#123 » by mjkvol » Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:54 pm

the_process wrote:
McDermott and Richardson from SA would work for me.



I do that one in a heartbeat as well.
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Post#124 » by Kobblehead » Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:43 pm

youngcrev wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Jaden McDaniels has been a defensive savant. He's got unrealized playmaking upside. His jumper needs work. Do ya'll think he has star upside or just really good player upside? Would you trade Maxey for McDaniels and a 1st?


McDaniels vs Trey Murphy - who you got?

Ah, the old shooting vs. defense debate.

I'll give McDaniels the nod because of his added creating/playmaking ability (which is largely hidden thus far).
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Post#125 » by Dnt hate » Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:20 am

Kobblehead wrote:
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Kobblehead wrote:Jaden McDaniels has been a defensive savant. He's got unrealized playmaking upside. His jumper needs work. Do ya'll think he has star upside or just really good player upside? Would you trade Maxey for McDaniels and a 1st?

Bro the last thing we do is trade Maxey, and for McDaniels?!?

Why?

The majority of the Sixers fans want Maxey relegated to a microwave 6th man role and to start Melton because Tyrese has been so limited defensively. The only real unique thing about Maxey is his work ethic. You can find 6'2" scorers pretty easily.

McDaniels is a 6'9" athlete with proven NBA defense. He showed in college that he could create for himself and others off the dribble (hasn't been asked to in Minnesota with all their scoring).


Majority on real gm maybe not real life lol, if we trade Maxey it will be a gigantic blunder...embarrassing
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#126 » by the_process » Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:37 am

Seems to me the Spurs could use a prospect like Springer now. And the Sixers could use a guy like Vassell.
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Post#127 » by Kobblehead » Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:18 pm

Change of Scenery targets:
- Patrick Williams
- Isaac Okoro

Underappreciated on Their Own Team targets:
- Chuma Okeke
- Jalen Johnson

All of the above are big and powerful athletes that bring strong defensive traits to the table. All of them should have a low price tag.

Of the above, Jalen Johnson is the diamond in the rough. He's the most mercurial personality, but has the traits to be a superstar in this league.
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Post#128 » by Negrodamus » Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:49 pm

Jalen Johnson would be a massive steal. I imagine his personality has been what holds him back since he’s still not seeing too much time.
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Post#129 » by Kobblehead » Sat Oct 29, 2022 3:07 pm

I don't get Atlanta's love affair with DeAndre Hunter. He's shown little to no growth in his game since entering the league. For being such a big athlete, he is not very active defensively. And the little playmaking upside he showed at Virginia has not translated to the NBA. He's not even the most consistent shooter. He's just meh.

I guess he's just a likeable guy and dependable professional.

I would have traded Hunter instead of extending him to make room for Johnson's growth. Johnson is just as big, strong, and athletic. He's a far better defender and playmaker. And his jumpshot has potential, as well.
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Post#130 » by Kobblehead » Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:06 pm

76ciology wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Jaden McDaniels has been a defensive savant. He's got unrealized playmaking upside. His jumper needs work. Do ya'll think he has star upside or just really good player upside? Would you trade Maxey for McDaniels and a 1st?


That’s too speculative and risky for our position.

Im in the camp where we try Reed-Biid first before we go out and make trades.

Fwiw, Tucker would be a great fit for the Wolves.

DLo
Anthony
Tucker
KAT
Gobert


What about Maxey for P.J. Washington?

There's less risk there. Washington is both a proven shooter and a proven defender (and has added passing ability). Washington is a complete player that contributes on both ends and instantly improves our size and athleticism issue by giving us the big wing we covet.

Given that Maxey has the big scoring numbers, we might even be able to get an additional asset of out it. Like maybe a future protected 1st, or a pair of 2nd rounders, or a young guy like Thor.
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Post#131 » by 76ciology » Sat Oct 29, 2022 6:13 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Jaden McDaniels has been a defensive savant. He's got unrealized playmaking upside. His jumper needs work. Do ya'll think he has star upside or just really good player upside? Would you trade Maxey for McDaniels and a 1st?


That’s too speculative and risky for our position.

Im in the camp where we try Reed-Biid first before we go out and make trades.

Fwiw, Tucker would be a great fit for the Wolves.

DLo
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Tucker
KAT
Gobert


What about Maxey for P.J. Washington?

There's less risk there. Washington is both a proven shooter and a proven defender (and has added passing ability). Washington is a complete player that contributes on both ends and instantly improves our size and athleticism issue by giving us the big wing we covet.

Given that Maxey has the big scoring numbers, we might even be able to get an additional asset of out it. Like maybe a future protected 1st, or a pair of 2nd rounders, or a young guy like Thor.


No no no..

If you want to trade Maxey, you trade him (and maybe add assets) for top tier talent like Durant or Paul George.

Personally, its number 21 who you should probably explore trading because this Maxey-Harden lead team might work and is closer to work than trying to find ways to win with Embiid without playing with another big.

While unless we replace Doc with coaches like Vogel, Joeger, Pop or Carlisle who knows that this team needs to pair Biid with another big, we’re just wasting time trying to win with Biid.

And if we ever trade number 21, i’d love to have MDA. He’s gonna transform Maxey into a superstar.
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Post#132 » by 76ciology » Sat Oct 29, 2022 6:23 pm

Discussions only. Im not saying we should trade these guys. But if we will trade them, these are the guys i want in return.

If im trading Biid, I’m looking at SGA or Paul George.

If im trading Maxey, im looking at KAT or Durant.
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Post#133 » by Kobblehead » Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:06 pm

With Joel Embiid and James Harden, you don't need more top tier talent. You just need better fitting pieces that possess multiple tools.

We need big athletes that can shoot-pass-defend.
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Post#134 » by the_process » Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:11 pm

76ciology wrote:Discussions only. Im not saying we should trade these guys. But if we will trade them, these are the guys i want in return.

If im trading Biid, I’m looking at SGA or Paul George.

If im trading Maxey, im looking at KAT or Durant.


Maxey for SGA makes much more sense. SGA and Harden is less of a liability defensively while maintaining the offense. And for the Thunder, they get a younger guy and save money for another season after this one before having to pay him. Maxey works better with Giddey as well.
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Post#135 » by HartfordWhalers » Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:55 pm

the_process wrote:Seems to me the Spurs could use a prospect like Springer now. And the Sixers could use a guy like Vassell.


I cannot imagine Spurs would have any interest in that.

I'm not sold Philly can unload Springer for free, but lets see what happens with his option...
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Post#136 » by Kobblehead » Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:09 pm

What's the concern with Springer? People don't think he's athletic or twitchy enough?

Other than shooting, there don't seem to be a glaring hole in his actual game. Is a strong defender and a good passer. Always puts up good per-minute scoring production when he's on the court.
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Post#137 » by youngcrev » Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:33 pm

Kobblehead wrote:What's the concern with Springer? People don't think he's athletic or twitchy enough?

Other than shooting, there don't seem to be a glaring hole in his actual game. Is a strong defender and a good passer. Always puts up good per-minute scoring production when he's on the court.


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Post#138 » by 76ciology » Mon Oct 31, 2022 3:53 am

Kobblehead wrote:What's the concern with Springer? People don't think he's athletic or twitchy enough?

Other than shooting, there don't seem to be a glaring hole in his actual game. Is a strong defender and a good passer. Always puts up good per-minute scoring production when he's on the court.


Not skilled for his size.
Not enough size for his lack of skill.
Not a good shooter for his lack of offensive skillset.
He is short on defense.

The way I see it he’s more of an Avery Bradley or Pat Beverly type player.

If you look at Tucker and how Tucker plays defense, thats how I see him play on D. Just stick to his man and you won’t see much rebounding or deflections.

Offensively, he’s not a good shooter. He won’t be able to get his shots off with lengthy defender closing him out. He’s gonna pump fake and attack to the rim, eventually settling for a pull up mid range.

Pretty much sums up the Jaden Springer experience for you
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Post#139 » by 76ciology » Mon Oct 31, 2022 3:58 am

Kobblehead wrote:With Joel Embiid and James Harden, you don't need more top tier talent. You just need better fitting pieces that possess multiple tools.

We need big athletes that can shoot-pass-defend.


Yes, if we’re talking about Giannis and not Joel Embiid. And a 2018 Harden.

The way I see it, Embiid and Harden are just not THAT type of duo that you can just surround them with role players.

Embiid’s game is very anti-trend that you need a lot more talent compared to other top tier talent just to move the needle. For instance, if we had Jokic instead of Biid, we’d probably be the best team in the league right now or atleast have moved past the second round.

And regarding Harden.. he’s just not THAT reliable as a go to guy anymore. That is why Maxey’s jump in scoring has saved our team where it could make up for Harden’s decline in scoring prowess.

So yes. We need Maxey or a player as good as maxey AND structure both Embiid and Harden that we can put them on advantageous position to succeed.
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Post#140 » by the_process » Mon Oct 31, 2022 6:25 pm

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the_process wrote:Seems to me the Spurs could use a prospect like Springer now. And the Sixers could use a guy like Vassell.


I cannot imagine Spurs would have any interest in that.

I'm not sold Philly can unload Springer for free, but lets see what happens with his option...


Option exercised.

I don't think it would be a straight up deal.

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