Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey"

[Pooh_Jeter]

Walt is one of the most level headed posters on RGM and he doesn't jump on extreme sides. It's so weird to me that someone would rather troll than let him joke around a bit on an unfortunate evening.

[Los_29]

This whole series just made Masai look like a genius.

[GreatWhiteStiff]

This thread can die AFAI'm concerned, but I'm also convinced it will never die.

[Jcity08]

****, I wouldn't give up Maxey either, the kid is an absolute stud. He is a stone cold killer.

[Jerry Lucas]

If you listen to David Thorpe (who many here deify for calling Scottie) talk about Maxey, combined with the next level drive you see when you watch him on the court, it's obvious he will develop into a two way force in this league. Thorpe actually said specifically he thinks Maxey will become a top 20 player in this league.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

****, I wouldn't give up Maxey either, the kid is an absolute stud. He is a stone cold killer.

ya made adjustments and made those Lowry type 3s in transition. great plays for an up and coming player in this league. Precious had those moments this year but Maxey is definitely the more well polished player today.

I also like Precious' future too. I mean last year and the beginning of this year, he looked out of place but the Raptors org has done an amazing job in developing his jumper and decision making. both aspects got much better down the stretch of the season.

but as of this season, Maxey takes the cake easily (for now). we just need a bigger/defensive big for guys like Embiid so we don't have to send a double team every time. Not many are available at the moment - can't seem to think of one that would be available in a trade.

[Live Free]

Really? How so?

I mean, I don't want to get into all the stats and all that on a sunny Saturday morning before a big game, but I think it's fair to say the majority of NBA fans right now would give Maxey the upper hand if they were asked. I'm talking about as things currently stand today. 3 and 5 years down the line, who knows.

Its the same homers that never fail.. Maxey clearly has broken out this season over precious its not even close.. put em down kindly though with the 3 to 5 years line

[YogurtProducer]

TBH even though Maxey look incredible this season, the Sixers quite possibly have a ring if they make this trade in 2020-21, and they might still have a non-broken Simmons.

Instead they look like 2nd round fodder again, but at least they have Maxey.

[Sixteen]

TBH even though Maxey look incredible this season, the Sixers quite possibly have a ring if they make this trade in 2020-21, and they might still have a non-broken Simmons.

Instead they look like 2nd round fodder again, but at least they have Maxey.

Kyle Lowry wasn't propelling a team that ended up losing to the hawks to a championship, stop. You can keep telling yourself that to make yourself feel better about missing out on Maxey but it's just not true. Also, Ben was a ticking time bomb. He would have wanted out eventually, so not getting Lowry allowed both parties to move on sooner than later. But yeah, we have Maxey

[YogurtProducer]

TBH even though Maxey look incredible this season, the Sixers quite possibly have a ring if they make this trade in 2020-21, and they might still have a non-broken Simmons.

Instead they look like 2nd round fodder again, but at least they have Maxey.

Kyle Lowry wasn't propelling a team that ended up losing to the hawks to a championship, stop. You can keep telling yourself that to make yourself feel better about missing out on Maxey but it's just not true. Also, Ben was a ticking time bomb. He would have wanted out eventually, so not getting Lowry allowed both parties to move on sooner than later. But yeah, we have Maxey

Kyle Lowry has made a career out of making teams better, but he would not have improved the Sixers?

He would have been your Marc Gasol. The last piece to a really good puzzle - but instead you will settle in being great but never great enough, especially as your 3 starters over 30 years old age out.

Lowry fit your team to a T. Maxey is great not, but I would have taken the ring in 2021 over never being good enough now.

Y'all played Seth **** Curry 32mpg in those playoffs I think the all-star caliber guy maybe would have elevated you.

[raincityraptors]

I wanted Precious more than Maxey. I was wrong.

[Sixteen]

TBH even though Maxey look incredible this season, the Sixers quite possibly have a ring if they make this trade in 2020-21, and they might still have a non-broken Simmons.

Instead they look like 2nd round fodder again, but at least they have Maxey.

Kyle Lowry wasn't propelling a team that ended up losing to the hawks to a championship, stop. You can keep telling yourself that to make yourself feel better about missing out on Maxey but it's just not true. Also, Ben was a ticking time bomb. He would have wanted out eventually, so not getting Lowry allowed both parties to move on sooner than later. But yeah, we have Maxey

Kyle Lowry has made a career out of making teams better, but he would not have improved the Sixers?

He would have been your Marc Gasol. The last piece to a really good puzzle - but instead you will settle in being great but never great enough, especially as your 3 starters over 30 years old age out.

Lowry fit your team to a T. Maxey is great not, but I would have taken the ring in 2021 over never being good enough now.

Y'all played Seth **** Curry 32mpg in those playoffs I think the all-star caliber guy maybe would have elevated you.

Even if they beat the Hawks, they are not beating Nets or Bucks next round. A team that struggled with the Hawks is not beating the Bucks just because they added Kyle Lowry lol...stop. and yes, I would take a ring too over never being good enough but Lowry is not the type of player that guarantees a ring. Trading Maxey for anything less than a guarantee just wasn't happen. Lowry wasn't that type of player. Sixers would be in the same position. Except for now they'll have a nearly 40 year old fat point guard, a mental midget ticking time bomb in Ben and a unhappy embiid. I'll take 10+ years of Maxey over that any day. Idc if we never win a championship, that's much better than the Ben/Lowry/Embiid scenario going forward

[Sixteen]

And when did Lowry become this guy that made teams better? He's done nothing before kawhi and nothing after. This is Kawhi's franchise and he took the soul of it to the clippers with him

[HumbleRen]

And when did Lowry become this guy that made teams better? He's done nothing before kawhi and nothing after. This is Kawhi's franchise and he took the soul of it to the clippers with him

Alright now, let's not go full dumb idiot mode here now lol.

I think Philly was smart for not trading for Lowry but the point you made right there is dumb.

What has Embiid done for Philly ? Y'all still haven't made a ECF in over 20 years. Does that mean Embiid doesn't make his teams better ?

[YogurtProducer]

Kyle Lowry wasn't propelling a team that ended up losing to the hawks to a championship, stop. You can keep telling yourself that to make yourself feel better about missing out on Maxey but it's just not true. Also, Ben was a ticking time bomb. He would have wanted out eventually, so not getting Lowry allowed both parties to move on sooner than later. But yeah, we have Maxey

Kyle Lowry has made a career out of making teams better, but he would not have improved the Sixers?

He would have been your Marc Gasol. The last piece to a really good puzzle - but instead you will settle in being great but never great enough, especially as your 3 starters over 30 years old age out.

Lowry fit your team to a T. Maxey is great not, but I would have taken the ring in 2021 over never being good enough now.

Y'all played Seth **** Curry 32mpg in those playoffs I think the all-star caliber guy maybe would have elevated you.

Even if they beat the Hawks, they are not beating Nets or Bucks next round. A team that struggled with the Hawks is not beating the Bucks just because they added Kyle Lowry lol...stop. and yes, I would take a ring too over never being good enough but Lowry is not the type of player that guarantees a ring. Trading Maxey for anything less than a guarantee just wasn't happen. Lowry wasn't that type of player. Sixers would be in the same position. Except for now they'll have a nearly 40 year old fat point guard, a mental midget ticking time bomb in Ben and a unhappy embiid. I'll take 10+ years of Maxey over that any day. Idc if we never win a championship, that's much better than the Ben/Lowry/Embiid scenario going forward

Y'all started Korkmaz and Seth Curry for multiple games against a team who took the Bucks to 6. Lowry was a 17/7 PG who is a great defender and had elite efficiency.

You get Lowry and you are a guarantee for the ECF, something your current core has never done, and you have a 50/50 chance of beating Milwaukee IMO and then it is a fairly easy Suns series. You never, ever, ever win a ring without at some point taking a gamble (see, Bucks with Holiday, Lakers with the AD trade, Raps with Kawhi + Gasol) unless you are GSW and draft multiple HOF players in a 3 year span.

But hey, 2-4 with an aging Harden, Tucker, Harris, and a fragile Embiid 2 years later also seems good to.

And when did Lowry become this guy that made teams better? He's done nothing before kawhi and nothing after. This is Kawhi's franchise and he took the soul of it to the clippers with him

And when did Lowry become this guy that made teams better? He's done nothing before kawhi and nothing after. This is Kawhi's franchise and he took the soul of it to the clippers with him

Uhhhhh his entire career? He dragged mediocre Raptors teams to 50 win seasons for a half decade before Kawhi came around? And was the best player on a 59 win team that was a game away from the ECF the year AFTER Kawhi left (less than 12 months before you did not trade for him lol)

[Los_29]

With Lowry showing his age, you can see why Morey wasn't willing to deal Maxey. It was Morey's first good move in Philly.

[Bull-E]

Everyone really needs to take themselves back to the summer of 2021 to know why Kyle for Maxey should have been a no brainer for Philly. The man affected winning. I'm sure all of the 76ers, Heat and Lakers would have pulled the trigger in retrospect, having fell well short of expectations.

Old heads will remember the 1992 Blue Jays, who traded a future MVP and 5-time all star (Jeff Kent) for a few months of David Cone. No regrets, Champions don't have regrets.

[Los_29]

Everyone really needs to take themselves back to the summer of 2021 to know why Kyle for Maxey should have been a no brainer for Philly. The man affected winning. I'm sure all of the 76ers, Heat and Lakers would have pulled the trigger in retrospect, having fell well short of expectations.

Old heads will remember the 1992 Blue Jays, who traded a future MVP and 5-time all star (Jeff Kent) for a few months of David Cone. No regrets, Champions don't have regrets.

Lowry would have made them far better that year, there is no question about that. With Lowry they likely get past Atlanta. Then the Bucks would've been a competitive series. Probably would still favour the Bucks though as Giannis is just on another level and you got excellent supporting pieces in Jrue, Middleton and Brook. I think ultimately they made the right decision as there was no guarantee Lowry would've re-signed with them and he's shown his age the past year while on the Heat. Lowry isn't an impact player anymore. Maxey obviously has his limitations but he can carve out a nice role in this league as a scorer.

[YogurtProducer]

Everyone really needs to take themselves back to the summer of 2021 to know why Kyle for Maxey should have been a no brainer for Philly. The man affected winning. I'm sure all of the 76ers, Heat and Lakers would have pulled the trigger in retrospect, having fell well short of expectations.

Old heads will remember the 1992 Blue Jays, who traded a future MVP and 5-time all star (Jeff Kent) for a few months of David Cone. No regrets, Champions don't have regrets.

Lowry would have made them far better that year, there is no question about that. With Lowry they likely get past Atlanta. Then the Bucks would've been a competitive series. Probably would still favour the Bucks though as Giannis is just on another level and you got excellent supporting pieces in Jrue, Middleton and Brook. I think ultimately they made the right decision as there was no guarantee Lowry would've re-signed with them and he's shown his age the past year while on the Heat. Lowry isn't an impact player anymore. Maxey obviously has his limitations but he can carve out a nice role in this league as a scorer.

But when do you take a risk then? If you never take a risk, you will never, ever, ever win in this league. How much closer than going to 7 games to make the ECF do you honestly get?

So instead of doing Maxey/Thubuller for Lowry they ended up doing Simmons/Curry/2 first for Harden (which they still could have done).

But Lowry/Green/Simmons/Harris/Embiid is easily blow-for-blow as good as Holiday/Middleton/Tucker/Giannis/Lopez, and a year later they could have been Lowry/Green/Harden/Harris/Embiid which would be still be really **** good (and IMO, Lowry > Maxey as your 4th or 5th best player, up until probably this season). If you have a LEGIT 2 year championship window you just have to go for it.

Maxey is great, I love him as a player, but you don't not trade a guy who you play 13mpg against Atlanta and give up a real championship run just so 2 years later he finally starts playing well.

[YogurtProducer]

I wanted Precious more than Maxey. I was wrong.

Same. No one would have thought he would be THIS good though. Not even the biggest Sixers homer would have thought two years later he would have been averaging 24ppg on 65.2TS%. Not one.