Game 7: Detroit Pistons (1-5) vs Golden State Warriors (3-3) - 6PM EST

[Liqourish]

Stewart has gone 2/5 from 3 two games in a row.

40% baybeeeeeeee

[IAmKrazy2]

I really wanted this win once we pulled ahead to double digits so early.

It was really nice to see us fight hard, and actually hold the lead for so long. With a team like GS it is so easy for them to get hot from 3 and make a quick comeback... But even when they did get hot, we answered. And it was nice to really pull ahead at the end for the decisive win.

Worried about no Duren, and Duren injury... Hopefully Noel is ready to get 15 or 20mins a game because we need some sort of rim protection.

For now, I am just enjoying the win.

[Cowology]

Stewart started the year in a bit of a shooting slump but he's going to have a break out season and will be a hot commodity.

Bey is the guy who infuriates me. Every 4th game the guy is a damn All-Star.

[Manocad]

The most encouraging thing for me about this game is that it showed what this team CAN be when everyone is right at the same time. If all the starters can just be consistently "on"--even at just their averages--at the same time, this team is capable of winning some games. The downfall of this team has been the inconsistency; too many players having awful games at the same time, the offense was ok but the defense sucked, the defense was ok but the offense sucked, etc. That's part of being a young team both in the sense of age and not having played a lot together so hopefully this game is a sign that they're starting to figure some things out.

[vege]

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[Scottgaf]

This team has talent and can score. If they can really focus on tbe other end and be consistent, they can be a tough game for anyone.

Defense has been their undoing so far.

[Manocad]

This team has talent and can score. If they can really focus on tbe other end and be consistent, they can be a tough game for anyone.

Defense has been their undoing so far.

Casey said in the postgame interview that after last game he really got on the team about defense.

He also said, relative to the lineups--and this is verbatim--"Nothing is locked, nothing is fluid," which makes no sense so I kinda giggled at it. But he went on to say that his intentions are to continue mixing things up between the starters and bench in order to find out what works best. Point being it sounds like he's not just stubbornly locking into any particular lineups.

[Rip32]

Stewart started the year in a bit of a shooting slump but he's going to have a break out season and will be a hot commodity.

Bey is the guy who infuriates me. Every 4th game the guy is a damn All-Star.

But Bey has to adjust his game according to how Cade and Ivey is playing though. Personally, I think he should be a volume scorer off the bench.

[Rip32]

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My vision of Cade/Ivey is to play similar to Zeke/Joe D. Both should be able to play point and off-guard interchangeably. Whoever has the hot hand just ride that individual.

[Collymore]

I ran the numbers and it's pretty obvious Killian needs to step up soon.

https://stathead.com/tiny/x4xuY

[buzzkilloton]

Despite it hurting the tank I have to love this game. First off a 2nd dominate game from Cade. This what we expected coming in and now were seeing him get there. I think we all were a little frustrated at the slow start. Now hes comfortable and showing hes going to be a star in this league a long time.

Beef Stew also had a good game. 10/11 from the line hitting some 3s. He just turned 21 hes still improving.

[NYPiston]

Bey is the guy who infuriates me. Every 4th game the guy is a damn All-Star.

20+ in 3 games, 8 or less in 3 of the other games. There is no in between with Bey, it's either great or awful.

He's going to be the first real big decision of the Weaver era. He'll likely be due for a big extension because his scoring numbers will be starter level but you don't want this guy as your starter when you're starting to build a winning roster unless he gains more consistency at both ends of the floor, which he hasn't shown to date.

It's more likely they'll re-sign him than not especially if they don't draft a high end wing but.... I don't know. He and Stewart both will be big decisions but I can see Stewart being the easier re-sign because, one, he'll probably come a bit cheaper and, two, he has already proven to be above average at defending and rebounding with the 3 also starting to come along. I'm just not sure what Bey excels at, at an even above average starter level.

[whitehops]

Bey is the guy who infuriates me. Every 4th game the guy is a damn All-Star.

20+ in 3 games, 8 or less in 3 of the other games. There is no in between with Bey, it's either great or awful.

He's going to be the first real big decision of the Weaver era. He'll likely be due for a big extension because his scoring numbers will be starter level but you don't want this guy as your starter when you're starting to build a winning roster unless he gains more consistency at both ends of the floor, which he hasn't shown to date.

It's more likely they'll re-sign him than not especially if they don't draft a high end wing but.... I don't know. He and Stewart both will be big decisions but I can see Stewart being the easier re-sign because, one, he'll probably come a bit cheaper and, two, he has already proven to be above average at defending and rebounding with the 3 also starting to come along. I'm just not sure what Bey excels at, at an even above average starter level.

i don't mind if his scoring is up and down because of his touches from game to game, as long as he's generally scoring efficiently (which he has done so far this year). it'd be a different story if he was shooting 10/16 in his good games and he's scoring 8 points the next game because he shot 3/16.

more of his shots are coming at the rim this season and he's getting to the line more, which should help stabilize his scoring from game to game. personally i've been pretty encouraged by saddiq this season in his role as the third scoring option behind cade and bojan. it might be a different story if bey was the second option but that's partly why we went out and got bojan.

[Manocad]

Bey is the guy who infuriates me. Every 4th game the guy is a damn All-Star.

20+ in 3 games, 8 or less in 3 of the other games. There is no in between with Bey, it's either great or awful.

He's going to be the first real big decision of the Weaver era. He'll likely be due for a big extension because his scoring numbers will be starter level but you don't want this guy as your starter when you're starting to build a winning roster unless he gains more consistency at both ends of the floor, which he hasn't shown to date.

It's more likely they'll re-sign him than not especially if they don't draft a high end wing but.... I don't know. He and Stewart both will be big decisions but I can see Stewart being the easier re-sign because, one, he'll probably come a bit cheaper and, two, he has already proven to be above average at defending and rebounding with the 3 also starting to come along. I'm just not sure what Bey excels at, at an even above average starter level.

i don't mind if his scoring is up and down because of his touches from game to game, as long as he's generally scoring efficiently (which he has done so far this year). it'd be a different story if he was shooting 10/16 in his good games and he's scoring 8 points the next game because he shot 3/16.

more of his shots are coming at the rim this season and he's getting to the line more, which should help stabilize his scoring from game to game. personally i've been pretty encouraged by saddiq this season in his role as the third scoring option behind cade and bojan. it might be a different story if bey was the second option but that's partly why we went out and got bojan.

His overall is better this year at 45.5% vs 39.6% and 40.4% in 2021-22 and 2020-21 respectively, but he has some stinkers in there:
2-5 (8 pts)
5-16 (20 pts)
2-5 (6 pts)
2-8 (7 pts)

He's just been really good in his good games:
9-15 (26 pts)
6-11 (17 pts)
9-17 (28 pts)

Which is the point. The team would be better served if he was closer to his averages every game (16.0 pts on 45.5%) than a mix of really good and lousy. Obviously going 2-5 for 6-8 points isn't killing the team from an efficiency standpoint if others are scoring instead, but I don't think the team wants to gameplan around Bey--who is expected to be a scorer because he sure as hell isn't there for his defense--scoring 6-8 points every other game.

Your point is certainly valid relative to getting better taking the ball to the rim and getting to the line. If he can do that well enough that it draws respect from the defense, it should open up outside shots for him. Better shots from outside + better at getting the rim/drawing fouls = more balanced scoring.

[Cowology]

20+ in 3 games, 8 or less in 3 of the other games. There is no in between with Bey, it's either great or awful.

He's going to be the first real big decision of the Weaver era. He'll likely be due for a big extension because his scoring numbers will be starter level but you don't want this guy as your starter when you're starting to build a winning roster unless he gains more consistency at both ends of the floor, which he hasn't shown to date.

It's more likely they'll re-sign him than not especially if they don't draft a high end wing but.... I don't know. He and Stewart both will be big decisions but I can see Stewart being the easier re-sign because, one, he'll probably come a bit cheaper and, two, he has already proven to be above average at defending and rebounding with the 3 also starting to come along. I'm just not sure what Bey excels at, at an even above average starter level.

i don't mind if his scoring is up and down because of his touches from game to game, as long as he's generally scoring efficiently (which he has done so far this year). it'd be a different story if he was shooting 10/16 in his good games and he's scoring 8 points the next game because he shot 3/16.

more of his shots are coming at the rim this season and he's getting to the line more, which should help stabilize his scoring from game to game. personally i've been pretty encouraged by saddiq this season in his role as the third scoring option behind cade and bojan. it might be a different story if bey was the second option but that's partly why we went out and got bojan.

His overall is better this year at 45.5% vs 39.6% and 40.4% in 2021-22 and 2020-21 respectively, but he has some stinkers in there:
2-5 (8 pts)
5-16 (20 pts)
2-5 (6 pts)
2-8 (7 pts)

He's just been really good in his good games:
9-15 (26 pts)
6-11 (17 pts)
9-17 (28 pts)

Which is the point. The team would be better served if he was closer to his averages every game (16.0 pts on 45.5%) than a mix of really good and lousy. Obviously going 2-5 for 6-8 points isn't killing the team from an efficiency standpoint if others are scoring instead, but I don't think the team wants to gameplan around Bey--who is expected to be a scorer because he sure as hell isn't there for his defense--scoring 6-8 points every other game.

Your point is certainly valid relative to getting better taking the ball to the rim and getting to the line. If he can do that well enough that it draws respect from the defense, it should open up outside shots for him. Better shots from outside + better at getting the rim/drawing fouls = more balanced scoring.

Yeah, pretty much spot on. But I'm still all about Cade/Ivey/Bojan/Livers/Stewart (until Duren is deemed worthy).

I'm not sure I really buy Bey being a 3rd option as helping him. I think I'd still rather see him as the #1 option with the 2nd unit. Let him beat up on opposing benches until he proves he can be consistent. If Bey is hot then you can still leave him in to finish games. *shrug*

I'd maybe feel a little differently if it was another vet behind Bey, but Livers is only a year older and would have likely been a 1st rounder if not injured. Lower ceiling I suppose, but Livers is more stable at both ends and just as likely to remain a part of our young core moving forward.

[Manocad]

i don't mind if his scoring is up and down because of his touches from game to game, as long as he's generally scoring efficiently (which he has done so far this year). it'd be a different story if he was shooting 10/16 in his good games and he's scoring 8 points the next game because he shot 3/16.

more of his shots are coming at the rim this season and he's getting to the line more, which should help stabilize his scoring from game to game. personally i've been pretty encouraged by saddiq this season in his role as the third scoring option behind cade and bojan. it might be a different story if bey was the second option but that's partly why we went out and got bojan.

His overall is better this year at 45.5% vs 39.6% and 40.4% in 2021-22 and 2020-21 respectively, but he has some stinkers in there:
2-5 (8 pts)
5-16 (20 pts)
2-5 (6 pts)
2-8 (7 pts)

He's just been really good in his good games:
9-15 (26 pts)
6-11 (17 pts)
9-17 (28 pts)

Which is the point. The team would be better served if he was closer to his averages every game (16.0 pts on 45.5%) than a mix of really good and lousy. Obviously going 2-5 for 6-8 points isn't killing the team from an efficiency standpoint if others are scoring instead, but I don't think the team wants to gameplan around Bey--who is expected to be a scorer because he sure as hell isn't there for his defense--scoring 6-8 points every other game.

Your point is certainly valid relative to getting better taking the ball to the rim and getting to the line. If he can do that well enough that it draws respect from the defense, it should open up outside shots for him. Better shots from outside + better at getting the rim/drawing fouls = more balanced scoring.

Yeah, pretty much spot on. But I'm still all about Cade/Ivey/Bojan/Livers/Stewart (until Duren is deemed worthy).

I'm not sure I really buy Bey being a 3rd option as helping him. I think I'd still rather see him as the #1 option with the 2nd unit. Let him beat up on opposing benches until he proves he can be consistent. If Bey is hot then you can still leave him in to finish games. *shrug*

I'd maybe feel a little differently if it was another vet behind Bey, but Livers is only a year older and would have likely been a 1st rounder if not injured. Lower ceiling I suppose, but Livers is more stable at both ends and just as likely to remain a part of our young core moving forward.

I’m totally on board with that.

Just split Bey and Bojan up, basically.

[vege]

i don't mind if his scoring is up and down because of his touches from game to game, as long as he's generally scoring efficiently (which he has done so far this year). it'd be a different story if he was shooting 10/16 in his good games and he's scoring 8 points the next game because he shot 3/16.

more of his shots are coming at the rim this season and he's getting to the line more, which should help stabilize his scoring from game to game. personally i've been pretty encouraged by saddiq this season in his role as the third scoring option behind cade and bojan. it might be a different story if bey was the second option but that's partly why we went out and got bojan.

His overall is better this year at 45.5% vs 39.6% and 40.4% in 2021-22 and 2020-21 respectively, but he has some stinkers in there:
2-5 (8 pts)
5-16 (20 pts)
2-5 (6 pts)
2-8 (7 pts)

He's just been really good in his good games:
9-15 (26 pts)
6-11 (17 pts)
9-17 (28 pts)

Which is the point. The team would be better served if he was closer to his averages every game (16.0 pts on 45.5%) than a mix of really good and lousy. Obviously going 2-5 for 6-8 points isn't killing the team from an efficiency standpoint if others are scoring instead, but I don't think the team wants to gameplan around Bey--who is expected to be a scorer because he sure as hell isn't there for his defense--scoring 6-8 points every other game.

Your point is certainly valid relative to getting better taking the ball to the rim and getting to the line. If he can do that well enough that it draws respect from the defense, it should open up outside shots for him. Better shots from outside + better at getting the rim/drawing fouls = more balanced scoring.

Yeah, pretty much spot on. But I'm still all about Cade/Ivey/Bojan/Livers/Stewart (until Duren is deemed worthy).

I'm not sure I really buy Bey being a 3rd option as helping him. I think I'd still rather see him as the #1 option with the 2nd unit. Let him beat up on opposing benches until he proves he can be consistent. If Bey is hot then you can still leave him in to finish games. *shrug*

I'd maybe feel a little differently if it was another vet behind Bey, but Livers is only a year older and would have likely been a 1st rounder if not injured. Lower ceiling I suppose, but Livers is more stable at both ends and just as likely to remain a part of our young core moving forward.

Start Noel Instead of Stew. Play Noel like 15 min a game, Stew 28+

Cade/Ivey/Bojan/Livers/Noel - Burks/Bey/Stewart/Duren

Play a 8 man rotation and give some minutes to Duren as the 9th guy. Don't play Killian/CoJo/Diallo.