Nash and Nets mutually agreed to part ways. 11.1.22

[Shark]

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Might as well sign Josh Primo as well at this rate.

We do need a PG. Culture/ethics obviously doesn't matter in a Tsai run organization. If you're going to be the win at cost NBA bad boys, go all in.

I think the problem is the distractions you might be introducing to an already distraction filled team. Maybe it'll still workout.

I like Udoka as a basketball coach. But this team has already been ravaged by controversy and it hasn't exactly done well dealing with it both on and off court.

[HardenGoat]

Ime is a better coach than Nash, problem with Nash besides not having any experience was he was scapegoated in part for things out of his control. There was no way the big 2 were going to play chip ball for him this year. The benefit right now is that a fresh start will be invigorating at least on a motivational level. I bet they ball out for Ime. I have a feeling though Kyrie is gone, he has burned too many bridges with the owner.

[sonnyhill]

The level of weirdness here has really gotten out of control.

Anyway, ignoring all the off court stuff, Udoka is a massive upgrade over Nash in a lot of ways.

Maybe, "Udoka is an upgrade over Nash;" and under most circumstances, he could be. However, this Nets team has an unique ecosystem centered around Kyrie. Kyrie is the "engine which makes the Nets go." Kyrie has publicly stated: "I don't really see us having a head coach," Irving said when appearing on Kevin Durant's new podcast The ETCs. "You know what I mean? KD could be a head coach. I could be a head coach." Nobody, other than Kyrie, is as uniquely qualified as Kyrie to coach this Nets team.

While Kyrie may say and post things which many might find odd, even offensive; it cannot be denied that the combination of his play on the court, his leadership in the locker room, and his Svengali influence over the franchise makes Kyrie a strong candidate to become the Nets player-coach.

[sonnyhill]

Might as well sign Josh Primo as well at this rate.

We do need a PG. Culture/ethics obviously doesn't matter in a Tsai run organization. If you're going to be the win at cost NBA bad boys, go all in.

I think the problem is the distractions you might be introducing to an already distraction filled team. Maybe it'll still workout.

I like Udoka as a basketball coach. But this team has already been ravaged by controversy and it hasn't exactly done well dealing with it both on and off court.

Instead of running away from controversy, why not openly embrace it; and therefore, not allow for it to become an excuse for the team's shortcomings?

Instead of "walking around on eggshells," why not go all-in on embracing the bizarre kookiness of KD, Kyrie, and Simmons? All three are immensely intelligent and talented...as well as odd, too. A more traditional coach will never be able to optimize this talented trio. The Nets should hire Kyrie as player-coach and empower him to lead this team to a championship.

[OfficialRef]

The team was like 29th on defense.

Hard to blame Durant and Kyrie for that considering they've played on some great defensive teams. The roster also has decent defenders this season unlike last when the excuse was valid. Nash had to go, he was garbage and I can't think of a single good thing he did for the team. Not one.

[NetsWorld]

Nets are championship contenders once again! Great day to be a Nets fan!, it has not been this fun since the James Trade of January 2021. Finally, we can get back to playing some real system ball and hopefully some defense. Udoka will coach this team to success and I am no longer worried and willing to hold off on concern for our 2-5 start.

[Jay555]

Should’ve happened last season..

[NyCeEvO]

Would the team give up a first rounder for Udoka (thats what the Celts got for Rivers)? Do they have a first rounder to give?

We shouldn't have to, but I wouldn't be surprised if we would.

One of the issues I have with Marks is he's never as ruthless in trades as I think he could be. It's very strange to suspend a coach for a season, but not fire him.

To me, it suggests either one of two things:

1) BOS thinks Udoka is so good that in spite of the severity of the infraction they believe he committed against them, they simply cannot let him go, because no other candidate would be as good as him.

2) BOS is so beholden to retaining/maximizing asset value that they kept him around knowing at least one team would fire their coach and would be open to having Udoka. Rather than letting Udoka go for nothing, they can keep him around and flip him for an asset when the time comes.

WIth option 1, BOS would probably see Udoka as worth at least one 1st round pick.
With option 2, BOS would probably let him go for a 2nd round pick.

If Marks is genuinely interested in Udoka, he should try to pry him away for nothing and say "Hey, we're doing you a favor by taking his salary off the books, and you don't have to worry about a severance package or paying out the rest of his contract if you were going to fire him anyway." This might be too unrealistic/pro-Nets, so I'd be ok parting with a 2nd rounder. If we give up a 1st rounder, I'll be upset.

[jibba jones]

I actually think the Celtics just want to get rid of Udoka and not have to pay his salary...

What that suggests is not very positive...

[TheNetsFan]

Might as well sign Josh Primo as well at this rate.

We do need a PG. Culture/ethics obviously doesn't matter in a Tsai run organization. If you're going to be the win at cost NBA bad boys, go all in.

I think the problem is the distractions you might be introducing to an already distraction filled team. Maybe it'll still workout.

I like Udoka as a basketball coach. But this team has already been ravaged by controversy and it hasn't exactly done well dealing with it both on and off court.

Diminishing impact of distractions. The media tends to focus on the single biggest distraction at a particular time. It wouldn't shock me if the Kyrie anti-semitism topic fell off the front page with the Nash/Udoka swap.

[NyCeEvO]

Maybe now is the time for the Nets to go "all-in" on and "double-down" on its commitment to both KD and Kyrie and hire Kyrie as player-coach. Instead of trying to "manage" Kyrie, how about giving him more responsibility and authority and force him to hold himself accountable for wins-and-losses?

If anyone was ever born to be the perfect "Ben Simmons 'horse-whisperer,'" it is Kyrie Irving.

It might be time for Joe Tsai to open his third eye.

What do the Nets have to lose by doing some "out-of-the-box" thinking?

Kyrie has stated publicly: "I don't really see us having a head coach," Irving said when appearing on Kevin Durant's new podcast The ETCs. "You know what I mean? KD could be a head coach. I could be a head coach."

Tsai and Marks should get out of the way and "let Kyrie cook" as player-coach. This approach might be the only way for this iteration of the Nets to actually succeed.

By empowering Kyrie to hold himself and the roster accountable, Nets fans might actually see a better product on the court.

Nice try...

Nash was already "outside of the box". This is the 2nd time within the franchise's short time in Brooklyn that they've hired a former player with no head coaching experience and have given them the keys to a team with high expectations.

We need to stop going the non-traditional route and simply choose the best candidate with coaching experience, good rapport with players, and good X&Os.

[3pt_chucker]

Great guy, horrible head coach.

All that needs to be said.

[NyCeEvO]

Quinn Snyder would have been my top target, but I'm sure Ainge would have insisted on significant compensation (as if we didn't already overpay him for Royce).

I thought Snyder left Utah. He's not on their payroll like Udoka is with the Celtics, right?

If that's the case, we should be able to hire him without compensating Utah.

[NyCeEvO]

I actually think the Celtics just want to get rid of Udoka and not have to pay his salary...

What that suggests is not very positive...

I don't think it suggests much. The damage is already done. Letting him go to Brooklyn allows Boston to have a clean break.

If Udoka was ultimately fired come the end of the season, there's a good chance that Boston would have to give him some sort of buyout package. Now, they don't have to worry about that.

[Paradise]

Would the team give up a first rounder for Udoka (thats what the Celts got for Rivers)? Do they have a first rounder to give?

We shouldn't have to, but I wouldn't be surprised if we would.

One of the issues I have with Marks is he's never as ruthless in trades as I think he could be. It's very strange to suspend a coach for a season, but not fire him.

To me, it suggests either one of two things:

1) BOS thinks Udoka is so good that in spite of the severity of the infraction they believe he committed against them, they simply cannot let him go, because no other candidate would be as good as him.

2) BOS is so beholden to retaining/maximizing asset value that they kept him around knowing at least one team would fire their coach and would be open to having Udoka. Rather than letting Udoka go for nothing, they can keep him around and flip him for an asset when the time comes.

WIth option 1, BOS would probably see Udoka as worth at least one 1st round pick.
With option 2, BOS would probably let him go for a 2nd round pick.

If Marks is genuinely interested in Udoka, he should try to pry him away for nothing and say "Hey, we're doing you a favor by taking his salary off the books, and you don't have to worry about a severance package or paying out the rest of his contract if you were going to fire him anyway." This might be too unrealistic/pro-Nets, so I'd be ok parting with a 2nd rounder. If we give up a 1st rounder, I'll be upset.

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[MrDollarBills]

I actually think the Celtics just want to get rid of Udoka and not have to pay his salary...

What that suggests is not very positive...

Yep.

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This isn't going to end well. Most likely once everything is official, all the dirt will come out on Ime in the media which will make the Nets look even worse....which is hard to fathom given what has happened over the last 72 hours.

[3pt_chucker]

I actually think the Celtics just want to get rid of Udoka and not have to pay his salary...

What that suggests is not very positive...

Yep.

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This isn't going to end well. Most likely once everything is official, all the dirt will come out on Ime in the media which will make the Nets look even worse....which is hard to fathom given what has happened over the last 72 hours.

There was already reporting done on this, that seemed to indicate he had "crude" language to a subordinate. The inappropriate behavior was seemingly directed at a VPs wife, which would explain why it's not a repariable situation.

There has been nothing to indicate that it was anything worse.

Everyone wants to be moral police and I get it but if that's all there is, no reason he shouldn't be a head coach. Only a big deal because he went to the Nets.

[CalamityX12]

I actually think the Celtics just want to get rid of Udoka and not have to pay his salary...

What that suggests is not very positive...

Yep.

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This isn't going to end well. Most likely once everything is official, all the dirt will come out on Ime in the media which will make the Nets look even worse....which is hard to fathom given what has happened over the last 72 hours.

Now I really want to know what happened.... i mean those red flags aren't that far fetched...

if something comes out, I hope the Nets protect themselves.

But what could it possibly be? i have to imagine anything of the forced/against the will type advances or acts would've terminated his ass on the spot. So that gives me some hope it isn't in that dark lighting.(atm)

[Sharcm1]

I’m very happy they finally got rid of Nash. No more excuses. Two years of excuses is enough. I know it’s not all his fault. But he has lost this team.

[Sharcm1]

The Udoka hiring kinda makes sense. He’s got off the court troubles just like the rest of the nets lol.

But I think he is a good coach. He was here before. Knows the team. And will be motivated to prove himself. And what ever happened in Boston had nothing to do with his coaching. So as long as there aren’t any women he would like to harass at work we should be good. Lol.