So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked?

[MoneyTalks41890]

Sure, a good kiln can get up to 2,400 degrees Fahrenheit.

A top 5 RGM joke imo

[IAMZOOTED2]

Guys, here begging for Klay to get more time have nothing to worry about. Klay will get time, the trouble is he has already had time. Yes, his two injuries were bad, but he has had the best care and rehab money can buy. As a person who has had several injuries that required surgical repair I know the process of recovery takes time. But in Klay’s case he’s had nearly a full year of rehab — more than enough to come back from almost any injury considering the advances in treatment we have had recently.

Verdict: COOKED

[DonaldSanders]

Guys, here begging for Klay to get more time have nothing to worry about. Klay will get time, the trouble is he has already had time. Yes, his two injuries were bad, but he has had the best care and rehab money can buy. As a person who has had several injuries that required surgical repair I know the process of recovery takes time. But in Klay’s case he’s had nearly a full year of rehab — more than enough to come back from almost any injury considering the advances in treatment we have had recently.

Verdict: COOKED

And what say you about how he performed last season, post injury?

38.5% from 3 in the playoffs and regular season, +2.4pts on court in the playoffs. Not the same player no, but far from COOKED
Ideally he'd be able to play from the bench at this point in his career, but he's still a useful player.

[MalonesElbows]

We saw enough from him last year to know the achilles injury didn't completely put him out to pasture. He should turn it around.

[Woodsanity]

He was decent last playoffs.

[DoctorX]

He will never be close to the same player again. Guys who get the Achilles tendon injury always tend to get worse outside of Durant and Dominique Wilkins. Those guys are the exception not the rule. Watching him play reminds me of Kobe after the Achilles tendon. Kobe always looked like he was playing in quicksand after that injury and shot putrid percentages. I expect Klay to be no different and then you factor in his ACL injury. Both of those injuries sucked a great deal of mobility out of him.

For the Warriors to win Klay has to ease into a new role where he becomes the 4th option after Poole and Wiggins. He also needs to find a way to be more efficient.

[Dan Z]

Watch on YouTube

EDIT: I see that Klay's comments are in the Youtube video you posted above.

[cupcakesnake]

Even last year when Klay managed to put up numbers that looked like pre-injury Klay, anyone watching knew we were looking at a different player.

Pre-injury Klay was super minimalist in his movement. His footwork on cuts and to set up shots was immaculate. No wasted motion. Effortless-looking scoring. Post-injury Klay was a hustling mad man. He was working 10 times as hard to get open and get off shots.

It was honestly super impressive to see a guy come back from b2b career-altering injuries with that kind of fire. At the same time, effort alone wasn't going to bring back old Klay. There might still be a chance that he works his way back to some version of his old self. But right now he's more of a hustling shooter ala Joe Harris (struggling with similar things over in Brooklyn) than he is the devastating all-time great shotmaker we've been so lucky to watch.

I root for this guy. He's clearly working his ass off. I hope for him that he's able to find some more of his game.

[pr0wler]

Super solid 7 game sample size imo.

I remember when basically everyone on realGM thought Eric Gordon was cooked because of mediocre 3-point shooting on and off for 2 seasons. Then since then he is been around 0.400 3-PT and now everyone conveniently forgets he had a bad run previous to that. There is this thing called variance that has an impact on 3-point shooting from season to season, let alone week to week.

[Jazz9]

Pretty much every single player who suffered a serious injury thinks they're gonna defy all odds and be who they were again.
99% of them are wrong

[HMFFL]

I already expect the Warriors front office to break things up sooner than later. This was mentioned and discussed two seasons ago while Klay was injured and Dray was playing poorly.

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[Exp0sed]

useless thread imo, couldn't u have posted this in the "golden state 3-5 what's going on" thread"?

he's not "cooked" btw

[og15]

He's not the same defender, but you don't just forget how to shoot. He's still learning his new body and his new normal. He's also not playing the same role that he did before injury.

Wiggins has taken Klays role, and Klay now has the Harrison Barnes role. There is nothing wrong with that, and I expect to see him putting up Barnes type numbers by the end of the year.

Barnes in 201 gave them 12/5/2 on 47/38/76 in 2016

I expect Klay to do better in that role and give the Warriors like 15/3/2 on 45/40/85. Which is all that they need really

Give Klay his respect, for a guy that is chill and likes to joke around, he really is a true competitor

Klay is currently taking 14 FGA in 26 mpg btw, 19 FGA/36, I'm not sure that's the Barnes role.

[Bobbymcgee]

He looks both physically and mentally washed. Warriors would be crazy to re-sign him and Green to new long-term deals.

[Edrees]

I think he skips training camp and all summer training because of the fact that he tore his Achilles that way. He's probably just super out of shape. Still it is very concerning.

[Antinomy]

The achilles injury is what’s really done him in. If it was just ACL, I think he would be really good still.

Your legs are such a huge part of shooting & having two major lower body injuries on both sides doesn’t bode well for him being “good” again.

I remember when Kobe suffered the same injury, it seemed like he could barely elevate to get shots off his last 2 years — almost like he had to force them up.

[LakersLegacy]

It would take 2 seasons without a championship and a huge pivot from the Warriors. Green would be gone first

[lonzo_pelota]

Cooked is if he has another season ending injury that he cant recover from, he's in a shooting slump, he's been such a prolific shooter this slump stands out , but give the courtesy to shoot himself out of it, he deserves that less than 10 games into a 82 game season
bradley beal shot 30% from 3 last season and got a supermax as a reward to put things in perspective, klay helped u win a chip

[Dan Z]

Super solid 7 game sample size imo.

I remember when basically everyone on realGM thought Eric Gordon was cooked because of mediocre 3-point shooting on and off for 2 seasons. Then since then he is been around 0.400 3-PT and now everyone conveniently forgets he had a bad run previous to that. There is this thing called variance that has an impact on 3-point shooting from season to season, let alone week to week.

Are you talking about 23 year old Eric Gordon shooting .250 from three for the season? Or 24 year old who shot .324 from three? Or are you talking age's 31 and 32 (when he shot .317 and .324 respectively)?

That's different than a 32 year old Klay Thompson trying to regain his form after missing two seasons due to an ACL and Achillies injuries. Those are serious injuries and not easy to recover from. Gordon missed games, but didn't miss two seasons in a row.

I'd like to think that Klay will improve as the season goes on, but I'd be surprised if he's as good as he was before the injuries.

[Cubbies2120]

His shooting numbers are beyond pathetic right now. He's actually a major part of why the Warriors are struggling. Really hope he can turn it around because I love watching the guy.

Really hope they bring him off the bench so Poole starts and doesn't get that 6MOY since I have Wood winning it