Tyrese Maxey is better than - Jalen Green, Tyrese Haliburton, Jordan Poole, Anthony Edwards and Darius Garland

kanersen · Post #61 » by **kanersen** » Thu Nov 3, 2022 1:41 pm

9th Wonder wrote:
GreatWhiteStiff wrote:He's no Precious Aciuwa, but he's alright. He can play with the ball a bit and shoot it. But, like I said, he's no Precious, real raptor OG's know the truth about this.

Oh boy, this is now a Kyle Lowry thread run by Raptors fans.

I don't think he's a Raptor's fan.
I think he's trolling Raptor's fans.
If you go through the comments of this ridiculous post this early into the season, the vast majority of the people that are actually agreeing with the OP are Raptor's fans because Maxey has made a career out of torching us.

Eyeamok · Post #62 » by **Eyeamok** » Thu Nov 3, 2022 1:46 pm

Hussien Fatal wrote:
RiRuHoops wrote:He just lost to Porzingis

So what he was missing his best player and just dropped 32 and NO turnovers at 21years old. Clearly he isn’t the reason we lost.

No he did not lose to Porzingis he absolutely schooled Porzingis several times. The 76ers lost to the Wizards.

skones · Post #63 » by **skones** » Thu Nov 3, 2022 1:54 pm

76ciology wrote:
skones wrote:
76ciology wrote:They say he’s good because he’s just feeding off Harden and Embiid drawing the defense

Read on Twitter

Lol, I don't think you're reading this graphic right. He gets doubled but is bad at playing out of them? His two teammates are two of the more doubled players in the league (thus leaving possessions for Maxey, which is the point you're arguing against)? What's your actual angle?

That he’s getting doubled a lot for a guy who’s just feeding off his teammates from being doubled

I’d imagine Jojo getting doubled. Kick out to Harden, doubled again. Then when they pass it to Maxey, the 6th guy from the opponents bench would get into the court to defend Maxey

Which still doesn't make sense given there are 36 other possessions in a game where those guys are drawing the attention. It was just a really poor graphic to use given it undermines your own argument. He literally stands out in that graphic in a negative way. Most help, a lower volume, and a lower efficiency. Evidence of him being doubled is a small portion of what's at play there.

Maxey had a STARK increase in efficiency last season when Harden arrived and we're looking at 51/47/74 splits after 9 games? That doesn't follow a rational train of thought when it comes to conclusive evidence.

Eyeamok · Post #64 » by **Eyeamok** » Thu Nov 3, 2022 1:55 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
Bum Adebayo wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:It's kind of frustrating how good Maxey, Simmons, Embiid could have been had they ever played together with Maxey at this level..

Not Simmons, I know you love him but the reality is, he sucks.

He was huge in impact stats for you guys in his last season, had great +/- with Embiid. I think the best in the league, especially in playoffs even with a few bad games.

Simmons was great in games that really did not matter, regular season and playoffs. But when it mattered, Oh man Simmons was the absolute worse.

Eyeamok · Post #65 » by **Eyeamok** » Thu Nov 3, 2022 1:59 pm

Decipher wrote:
AussieCeltic wrote:I have a fairly sizeable bet on Maxey for MIP at 26:1 odds so I’m happy if it’s true.

But my god, we hear how great Embiid, Harden and Maxey are plus how good all their off season signings were and the Sixers don’t even have a .500 record.

Sixers have fallen off a cliff since Simmons left but he's somehow the problem

Tyrese is a good kid but he's arguably the worst defender in the league & plays beside Harden

Their defense is a total joke

I have not finished reading the thread so I know someone had to beat me to this. But a Nets fans talking about another teams bad defense? :lol:

hardenASG13 · Post #66 » by **hardenASG13** » Thu Nov 3, 2022 2:00 pm

Well, he's the best finisher going to the rim, I'll give you that. I don't think he's currently better than Haliburton or Garland. I'm a big Edwards fan, but I can see an argument there. Edwards needs to get better going to the rim/not disappearing for long stretches. He is currently better than Poole and Green, though I remain high on Green as a big time scorer long term.

9th Wonder · Post #67 » by **9th Wonder** » Thu Nov 3, 2022 2:05 pm

kanersen wrote:
9th Wonder wrote:
GreatWhiteStiff wrote:He's no Precious Aciuwa, but he's alright. He can play with the ball a bit and shoot it. But, like I said, he's no Precious, real raptor OG's know the truth about this.

Oh boy, this is now a Kyle Lowry thread run by Raptors fans.

I don't think he's a Raptor's fan.
I think he's trolling Raptor's fans.
If you go through the comments of this ridiculous post this early into the season, the vast majority of the people that are actually agreeing with the OP are Raptor's fans because Maxey has made a career out of torching us.

He and I are sharing a laugh about how certain Raptor fans seem to have an RSS feed set up for RealGM posts about the Lowry trade.

But yeah, one of the few pleasures of being a 76ers fan in Toronto is all the love Maxey gets in this city.

ropjhk · Post #68 » by **ropjhk** » Thu Nov 3, 2022 2:06 pm

He's great and I think he's going to make multiple All Star appearances in his career.

QingJames · Post #69 » by **QingJames** » Thu Nov 3, 2022 2:21 pm

Maxey is a super scorer but c'mon now. Hali and Garland's playmaking ability blows Tyrese out of the water. Maxey is actually a very one-dimensional player on offense - he's just extremely fast.

Post #70 » by **zimpy27** » Thu Nov 3, 2022 2:25 pm

Eyeamok wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
Bum Adebayo wrote:
Not Simmons, I know you love him but the reality is, he sucks.

He was huge in impact stats for you guys in his last season, had great +/- with Embiid. I think the best in the league, especially in playoffs even with a few bad games.

Simmons was great in games that really did not matter, regular season and playoffs. But when it mattered, Oh man Simmons was the absolute worse.

That could be written as "in games Simmons performed well we won easily, in games Simmons played poorly we lost."

Eyeamok · Post #71 » by **Eyeamok** » Thu Nov 3, 2022 2:36 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
Eyeamok wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
He was huge in impact stats for you guys in his last season, had great +/- with Embiid. I think the best in the league, especially in playoffs even with a few bad games.

Simmons was great in games that really did not matter, regular season and playoffs. But when it mattered, Oh man Simmons was the absolute worse.

That could be written as "in games Simmons performed well we won easily, in games Simmons played poorly we lost."

it could be but it's not because that is not what I wrote or wanted to get across. For example one of Simmons best games he scored 42 points against the Jazz and the 76ers lost. But carry on.

Wilfried · Post #72 » by **Wilfried** » Thu Nov 3, 2022 2:52 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
Eyeamok wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
He was huge in impact stats for you guys in his last season, had great +/- with Embiid. I think the best in the league, especially in playoffs even with a few bad games.

Simmons was great in games that really did not matter, regular season and playoffs. But when it mattered, Oh man Simmons was the absolute worse.

That could be written as "in games Simmons performed well we won easily, in games Simmons played poorly we lost."

But also

Simmons played poorly in the games that mattered, and Sixers lost

mcfly1204 · Post #73 » by **mcfly1204** » Thu Nov 3, 2022 2:57 pm

How much better is Maxey than Sexton?

jasonxxx102 · Post #74 » by **jasonxxx102** » Thu Nov 3, 2022 3:09 pm

mcfly1204 wrote:How much better is Maxey than Sexton?

Tyrese is a slightly better version of Collin with better teammates.

Zeno · Post #75 » by **Zeno** » Thu Nov 3, 2022 3:10 pm

I'm a huge fan of Maxey but I'm not sure he is better than those other guys. I am also not completely sure how many of those guys is better than him also. None of them is very good on defence. Edwards has the best physical tools to be good on that end.

I think I'd rank them currently...

Garland
Edwards
Maxey
Haliburton
Green

Edwards in Philly would be scary. But I think Maxey might do better than Edwards if he was on the Wolves right now.

JonFromVA · Post #76 » by **JonFromVA** » Thu Nov 3, 2022 3:17 pm

Someone is going to have to explain why if Maxey is playing this well, the 76'ers are just 4-5 and are even slightly better when he isn't on the floor.

Dacost · Post #77 » by **Dacost** » Thu Nov 3, 2022 3:23 pm

Give me Desmond Bane over all of them.

Post #78 » by **oldncreaky** » Thu Nov 3, 2022 3:37 pm

Zeno wrote:I'm a huge fan of Maxey but I'm not sure he is better than those other guys. I am also not completely sure how many of those guys is better than him also. None of them is very good on defence. Edwards has the best physical tools to be good on that end.

I think I'd rank them currently...

Garland
Edwards
Maxey
Haliburton
Green

Edwards in Philly would be scary. But I think Maxey might do better than Edwards if he was on the Wolves right now.

Mostly agree about the defence, but I do see Garland as being better than neutral: he's improved every year on that end, and while small, he has great court sense and positioning.

Post #79 » by **jbk1234** » Thu Nov 3, 2022 3:37 pm

mcfly1204 wrote:How much better is Maxey than Sexton?

Based on where on the court they score their points from, the ability to play at multiple speeds, and court vision, I have Maxey as considerably better.

HardenGoat · Post #80 » by **HardenGoat** » Thu Nov 3, 2022 3:46 pm

the incredible thing is how pure and efficient his shooting is, his confidence is sky high on that 3 ball. He is turning into a weapon on the court teams will have to game plan against. If and when Embiid comes back into form and the players find their roles there is a chance this will be a 3 headed monster coming down the stretch.