Report: Joshua Primo allegedly exposed himself to women

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[Homerclease]

Yeah, Joe Paterno knew nothing about Sandusky either. You have to be living under a rock to believe that pop didn’t know

These situations are not remotely the same. Good grief. What a terrible post. Delete it and I will delete where I quoted you.

The crimes aren’t the same. The premise is. Pop is the spurs. To try to pull the wool over anyones eyes and say pop doesn’t know everything that goes on in his house is a laughable premise. The entire franchise tried to sweep it under the rug and got busted.

Good grief is right. Nothing in my post breaks terms of service and I’m not deleting it because you disagree with me

[Dirk]

I guess I'd want to know who she told and who was responsible to inform Primo. Was this all communicated to him? Why was there a breakdown in communication?

[G R E Y]

I hope this is the case.

Sure. I refer back to her lawyer's statement about it for clarity.

Yeah, Joe Paterno knew nothing about Sandusky either. You have to be living under a rock to believe that pop didn’t know

Shameful comparison.

Again, since it didn't sink in the first time, HER LAWYER stated they believe she was lied to when told that Pop was informed.

[Homerclease]

Sure. I refer back to her lawyer's statement about it for clarity.

Yeah, Joe Paterno knew nothing about Sandusky either. You have to be living under a rock to believe that pop didn’t know

If Brian Wright were trying to cover things up for Primo, why would he also tell Primo's coach what was happening?
Seems like if you're covering things up you'd, you know, not tell a lot of people (or give them a sanitized version of events to downplay the seriousness).

They all tried to cover it up. Pop has unlimited power in SA. There’s no way he didn’t know about this.

[BK_2020]

Put yourself in the situation. You're a psych, you have a meeting with Primo on this schedule:

July 1: Meet with Primo, dick hanging out
July 15: Meet with Primo, dick hanging out
Aug 1: Meet with Primo, dick hanging out

Are you going to continue for another 6 sessions when you're uneasy and potentially in an unsafe environment? And inform nobody about it until you decide "You know what, the first 8 times I'm gonna let slide, but this 9th one..ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!"?

She informed the Spurs after the first time and they said they'd handle it.

I guess I'd want to know who she told and who was responsible to inform Primo. Was this all communicated to him? Why was there a breakdown in communication?

Primo himself is responsible for not being a creep. He's a grown-ass man, no one have to tell him he shouldn't be a sexual predator each time he is.

[Dirk]

She informed the Spurs after the first time and they said they'd handle it.

I guess I'd want to know who she told and who was responsible to inform Primo. Was this all communicated to him? Why was there a breakdown in communication?

Primo himself is responsible for not being a creep. He's a grown-ass man, no one have to tell him he shouldn't be a sexual predator each time he is.

The GM was informed. Assistant general counsel and HR head were aware.

They said they'd handle it, issue would be addressed with Primo, there would be a write up and consequences.

Apparently, none of that happened and instead the Spurs guys just pushed the psychologist away.

[Homerclease]

Sure. I refer back to her lawyer's statement about it for clarity.

Yeah, Joe Paterno knew nothing about Sandusky either. You have to be living under a rock to believe that pop didn’t know

Shameful comparison.

Again, since it didn't sink in the first time, HER LAWYER stated they believe she was lied to when told that Pop was informed.

It sank in just fine. I’m sure her lawyer and his client who just lost her dream job believe that. I don’t.

Nobody is saying what Primo did is in the same stratosphere as what Sandusky did. That’s not the point and you and chuck both know it.

I’ll use another example if that one is too unpleasant for you. I’m SURE Rick Pitino had zero knowledge of anything nefarious going on while he was coaching at Louisville.

[G R E Y]

Put yourself in the situation. You're a psych, you have a meeting with Primo on this schedule:

July 1: Meet with Primo, dick hanging out
July 15: Meet with Primo, dick hanging out
Aug 1: Meet with Primo, dick hanging out

Are you going to continue for another 6 sessions when you're uneasy and potentially in an unsafe environment? And inform nobody about it until you decide "You know what, the first 8 times I'm gonna let slide, but this 9th one..ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!"?

She informed the Spurs after the first time and they said they'd handle it.

I guess I'd want to know who she told and who was responsible to inform Primo. Was this all communicated to him? Why was there a breakdown in communication?

It's an unfortunate burden that she, as the victim here, also has responsibilities as a psychologist that go beyond her job with the team.

IF duty to warn applies here, and if it doesn't it would be great to get clarification as to why, then she was bound by her profession to report this to authorities. Without making it sound like I'm victim blaming, I want to be very clear about this, I don't understand how this could have occurred so many times given that it wasn't a safe working environment, for her and anyone else he did it to.

[DaddyCool19]

How much would Pops reputation suffer, if he indeed was told about it way beforehand and didn't do anything until last week?

Especially with him being so outspoken and even hiring Becky as an assistant

[G R E Y]

Yeah, Joe Paterno knew nothing about Sandusky either. You have to be living under a rock to believe that pop didn’t know

Shameful comparison.

Again, since it didn't sink in the first time, HER LAWYER stated they believe she was lied to when told that Pop was informed.

It sank in just fine. I’m sure her lawyer and his client who just lost her dream job believe that. I don’t.

Nobody is saying what Primo did is in the same stratosphere as what Sandusky did. That’s not the point and you and chuck both know it.

I’ll use another example if that one is too unpleasant for you. I’m SURE Rick Pitino had zero knowledge of anything nefarious going on while he was coaching at Louisville.

You being sure and you not believe it is your choice. It just doesn't jive with the reality of those doing the suing stating otherwise publicly.

[SNPA]

She informed the Spurs after the first time and they said they'd handle it.

I guess I'd want to know who she told and who was responsible to inform Primo. Was this all communicated to him? Why was there a breakdown in communication?

It's an unfortunate burden that she, as the victim here, also has responsibilities as a psychologist that go beyond her job with the team.

IF duty to warn applies here, and if it doesn't it would be great to get clarification as to why, then she was bound by her profession to report this to authorities. Without making it sound like I'm victim blaming, I wasnt to be very clear about this, I don't understand how this could have occurred so many times given that it wasn't a safe working environment, for her and anyone else he did it to.

This isn’t hard really. She is a Dr. The first time if she was uncomfortable in a room alone addressing it that’s totally understandable. But after that first time you go directly to HR. A plan gets put in place to address it. If that plan is not satisfactory to her then she refuses to meet with him until one is developed or she just refers him to a specialist and tells the Spurs that’s her medical opinion and it’s non negotiable.

What you don’t do is meet with him 8 more times under circumstances you find professionally inappropriate.

This isn’t victim blaming, it’s a professional duty as a Dr.

[Frank Dux]

The Spurs are done. Silver needs to clean house in that organization.

[zimpy27]

I guess I'd want to know if men in the Spurs organization also saw Primos junk, or if it was just women.

Then I'd want to know if anyone told Primo to cover up his junk broadly and more specifically with the psych.

The 9 times is odd but it's possible that Primo thought because she never told him to put it away that he thought she liked it. Which is something a 19 year old might think honestly.

The first time might have been accidental but just think of the feedback that Primo got. She didn't tell him not to, she told Spurs and they may have thought she wanted to be anonymously, so they tell Primo people have seen his junk and what him to cover up. Still no specific info that the psych is uncomfortable. He may have taken no negative feedback as a form of positive feedback.

Plus the power dynamics is unclear here, ones a 19 year old man that happens to he be relatively bigger and she's a much older lady who happens to be psycho-analysing him.

This case is more complicated than I first thought.

Wasn't there other women he flashed? Or is just one?

[Homerclease]

Shameful comparison.

Again, since it didn't sink in the first time, HER LAWYER stated they believe she was lied to when told that Pop was informed.

It sank in just fine. I’m sure her lawyer and his client who just lost her dream job believe that. I don’t.

Nobody is saying what Primo did is in the same stratosphere as what Sandusky did. That’s not the point and you and chuck both know it.

I’ll use another example if that one is too unpleasant for you. I’m SURE Rick Pitino had zero knowledge of anything nefarious going on while he was coaching at Louisville.

You being sure and you not believe it is your choice. It just doesn't jive with the reality of those doing the suing stating otherwise publicly.

Pop isn’t their target. They have no reason to go after him. You really shouldn’t believe everything lawyers say publicly. On either side of the fence on this one.

Or are you saying that Primo’s lawyer is telling the 100% truth as well? How do you determine who’s lawyer is full of it and who’s isn’t? For the record, I do think Primo’s lawyers statement is a complete crock

[Bornstellar]

Tough look all around. We have to take her allegations seriously until proven otherwise. The only thing you can say positively is at least it was just flashing and not something worse I guess. Still, bitter pill for Spurs fans to swallow

Kinda surprised this isn't getting more press. If this was the Lakers the media would be having a field day

[GameChannel]

The Spurs are done. Silver needs to clean house in that organization.

Relax. As jealous most posters on here are of the Spurs' success and as eager as everyone is to see the Spurs getting destroyed, this is the first time the franchise has been caught in a scandal like this. I'm sure they will clean house on their own without the NBA having to intervene.

I'm a life-long Spurs fan. But whoever in the organization was complicit in this cover up should be immediately fired.

[DonaldSanders]

She informed the Spurs after the first time and they said they'd handle it.

I guess I'd want to know who she told and who was responsible to inform Primo. Was this all communicated to him? Why was there a breakdown in communication?

Something here is BS. She is a Dr. It’s understandable if the first time she didn’t feel comfortable alone in a room addressing it with a much larger male. But…after that she has the ability to control the situation. She can refuse to have sessions alone with him if the Spurs aren’t putting the right steps in place, or refuse to see him at all. She can refer him to a specialist. She has lots of options and a professional duty.

Nine times is key.

This is victim blaming. Same as blaming the victim when someone is raped by someone they know, doesn't report it to the cops, then it happens again by that same person.

Now in this situation the crime is of a much lower grade than that, but consider a scenario like this:

- You need this job, you may have personal life money stresses/difficulties that may make switching jobs difficult
- Primo may have not worn underwear intentionally and his dong kept slipping out of the shorts rather than a "whipping out" type moment
- The psychologist may have assessed him as a sexual exhibitionist, not a rapist, and felt it would not escalate. This doesn't mean his sexual exhibitionism isn't about power, but the psychologist may have felt she was safe from further harm than what we've heard of

So say you're this lady, you need this job and you don't feel physically threatened, you have this kid whose junk keeps being exposed during your sessions with him. You might feel that professionally you could *help* him and stop it, she may feel that is part of her purpose as a psychologist. If she physically felt safe, she may have been willing to mentally deal with it due to her needing the job and feeling like she might be able to help him. But she won't be able to actually help at all if the Spurs aren't issuing any consequences or helping her deal with the situation.

One thing that's also important to point out is that when someone becomes a victim, they often may try to lower the level of the incident in their mind to protect themselves mentally. I hate speculating too much about what was going on in her mind, but try to have some compassion here. She may have actually been trying to help this kid not ruin his life (and keep hers intact).

[Frank Dux]

The Spurs are done. Silver needs to clean house in that organization.

Relax. As jealous most posters on here are of the Spurs' success and as eager as everyone is to see the Spurs getting destroyed, this is the first time the franchise has been caught in a scandal like this. I'm sure they will clean house on their own without the NBA having to intervene.

I'm a life-long Spurs fan. But whoever in the organization was complicit in this cover up should be immediately fired.

hate to break it to you buddy, but heads will roll. this is going to get ugly.

[G R E Y]

I guess I'd want to know who she told and who was responsible to inform Primo. Was this all communicated to him? Why was there a breakdown in communication?

It's an unfortunate burden that she, as the victim here, also has responsibilities as a psychologist that go beyond her job with the team.

IF duty to warn applies here, and if it doesn't it would be great to get clarification as to why, then she was bound by her profession to report this to authorities. Without making it sound like I'm victim blaming, I wasnt to be very clear about this, I don't understand how this could have occurred so many times given that it wasn't a safe working environment, for her and anyone else he did it to.

This isn’t hard really. She is a Dr. The first time if she was uncomfortable in a room alone addressing it that’s totally understandable. But after that first time you go directly to HR. A plan gets put in place to address it. If that plan is not satisfactory to her then she refuses to meet with him until one is developed or she just refers him to a specialist and tells the Spurs that’s her medical opinion and it’s non negotiable.

What you don’t do is meet with him 8 more times under circumstances you find professionally inappropriate.

This isn’t victim blaming, it’s a professional duty as a Dr.

And that's really my point. In the interest of self-protection and the profession, the duty to warn is there to activate. An obligation, even. If it doesn't apply here I don't see how.