Joe tsai takes time to adress kyries “views” but not the team needs

[GoCeltics123]

I think Nets PR needs their salary quadrupled, if they haven't resigned already

[3pt_chucker]

I'm really starting to empathize with Kyrie here. It really feels like a gigantic overreaction to this.

No one is actually listening to him, which is what he really wants but instead demanding he be contrite.

He's clearly a contrarian, who at times is in over his head but that does not mean he has to be treated like some evil villain. Since when has curiosity been bad? Yes he's dumb to question everything but as a fan of the X-files and a scientist, I really understand where he's coming from. Too bad he doesn't have someone in his camp that can channel that properly.

In terms of the Nets tho, it's just been too many non-basketball problems from Kyrie which makes it exhausting. While I think the Nets have been horrible at times with managing him, the juice just might not be worth the squeeze.

Do you emphasize with the Jewish Net fans who have been harassed and insulted on social media because of this or does Kyrie's inability to comprehend why what he did was dangerous weigh more in you opinion?

What is there to listen to? What is he even trying to say? He's too cowardly/dumb to even present what he's even trying to say in a coherent manner, any time he's pressed to expound on it he gets belligerent. This is the guy you want to have empathy for? Wow. I thought better of you man, but I guess I was wrong.

It's really crazy how casual people in this fanbase take antisemitism.

WTF? You're missing my point. Kyrie was dumb for posting the documentary and is wrong for that.

Fans who are doing that stuff should be condemned. However, one Kyrie tweet does not make someone into bigot. That's not reality. Those "fans" just need an excuse to show their true colors and Kyrie is an idiot to give them that reason. He's also dumb for not recognizing the overall trash the documentary and book is and that posting it is wrong.

At the same time, you're falling for that trap where the media blows something out of the water because it generates revenue. I fell for it as well. I listened to what he actually said and it's actually coherent.

He has said he's an omnist. By definition(as as he's said) he can't be anti-semite. He also said that he believes he is of Afro-asiatic descent, which by Oxford dictionary definition, is part of the semitic group which is made up Western Asia, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, and parts of the Sahara. Therefore unless he hates himself, he can't be anti-semitic and that obviously not the goal of the post he made.

THAT'S what I'm empathetic too. No one is actually listening to him!! We just get outraged by the click bait snippets which paint him in the most negative of lights. I hate how much negative media sells. It's trash and has to change but it won't if we as fans keep allowing that to be the revenue driver.

He doesn't want to just say "no" because he wants to make a larger point and he is well within his rights to do so. Instead of getting mad he isn't doing things the way he "should", how about we listen and then make decisions of what he's actually said and not what we didn't get.

[MrDollarBills]

I'm really starting to empathize with Kyrie here. It really feels like a gigantic overreaction to this.

No one is actually listening to him, which is what he really wants but instead demanding he be contrite.

He's clearly a contrarian, who at times is in over his head but that does not mean he has to be treated like some evil villain. Since when has curiosity been bad? Yes he's dumb to question everything but as a fan of the X-files and a scientist, I really understand where he's coming from. Too bad he doesn't have someone in his camp that can channel that properly.

In terms of the Nets tho, it's just been too many non-basketball problems from Kyrie which makes it exhausting. While I think the Nets have been horrible at times with managing him, the juice just might not be worth the squeeze.

Do you emphasize with the Jewish Net fans who have been harassed and insulted on social media because of this or does Kyrie's inability to comprehend why what he did was dangerous weigh more in you opinion?

What is there to listen to? What is he even trying to say? He's too cowardly/dumb to even present what he's even trying to say in a coherent manner, any time he's pressed to expound on it he gets belligerent. This is the guy you want to have empathy for? Wow. I thought better of you man, but I guess I was wrong.

It's really crazy how casual people in this fanbase take antisemitism.

WTF? You're missing my point. Kyrie was dumb for posting the documentary and is wrong for that.

Fans who are doing that stuff should be condemned. However, one Kyrie tweet does not make someone into bigot. That's not reality. Those "fans" just need an excuse to show their true colors and Kyrie is an idiot to give them that reason. He's also dumb for not recognizing the overall trash the documentary and book is and that posting it is wrong.

At the same time, you're falling for that trap where the media blows something out of the water because it generates revenue. I fell for it as well. I listened to what he actually said and it's actually coherent.

He has said he's an omnist. By definition(as as he's said) he can't be anti-semite. He also said that he believes he is of Afro-asiatic descent, which by Oxford dictionary definition, is part of the semitic group which is made up Western Asia, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, and parts of the Sahara. Therefore unless he hates himself, he can't be anti-semitic and that obviously not the goal of the post he made.

THAT'S what I'm empathetic too. No one is actually listening to him!! We just get outraged by the click bait snippets which paint him in the most negative of lights. I hate how much negative media sells. It's trash and has to change but it won't if we as fans keep allowing that to be the revenue driver.

He doesn't want to just say "no" because he wants to make a larger point and he is well within his rights to do so. Instead of getting mad he isn't doing things the way he "should", how about we listen and then make decisions of what he's actually said and not what we didn't get.

What's his larger point? That promoting a film that engages in outright Holocaust denial doesn't make him antisemitic because he is of Afro-asiatic descent?

That sounds like his usual mental gymnastics to me. By that logic, if its true that Hitler had Jewish ancestry, he wouldn't be antisemitic either. I don't buy that.

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[MrDollarBills]

I think Nets PR needs their salary quadrupled, if they haven't resigned already

Nets PR has sucked badly for the last 3 years, and it's not a coincidence

[Eatgreenz]

I'm really starting to empathize with Kyrie here. It really feels like a gigantic overreaction to this.

No one is actually listening to him, which is what he really wants but instead demanding he be contrite.

He's clearly a contrarian, who at times is in over his head but that does not mean he has to be treated like some evil villain. Since when has curiosity been bad? Yes he's dumb to question everything but as a fan of the X-files and a scientist, I really understand where he's coming from. Too bad he doesn't have someone in his camp that can channel that properly.

In terms of the Nets tho, it's just been too many non-basketball problems from Kyrie which makes it exhausting. While I think the Nets have been horrible at times with managing him, the juice just might not be worth the squeeze.

Do you emphasize with the Jewish Net fans who have been harassed and insulted on social media because of this or does Kyrie's inability to comprehend why what he did was dangerous weigh more in you opinion?

What is there to listen to? What is he even trying to say? He's too cowardly/dumb to even present what he's even trying to say in a coherent manner, any time he's pressed to expound on it he gets belligerent. This is the guy you want to have empathy for? Wow. I thought better of you man, but I guess I was wrong.

It's really crazy how casual people in this fanbase take antisemitism.

WTF? You're missing my point. Kyrie was dumb for posting the documentary and is wrong for that.

Fans who are doing that stuff should be condemned. However, one Kyrie tweet does not make someone into bigot. That's not reality. Those "fans" just need an excuse to show their true colors and Kyrie is an idiot to give them that reason. He's also dumb for not recognizing the overall trash the documentary and book is and that posting it is wrong.

At the same time, you're falling for that trap where the media blows something out of the water because it generates revenue. I fell for it as well. I listened to what he actually said and it's actually coherent.

He has said he's an omnist. By definition(as as he's said) he can't be anti-semite. He also said that he believes he is of Afro-asiatic descent, which by Oxford dictionary definition, is part of the semitic group which is made up Western Asia, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, and parts of the Sahara. Therefore unless he hates himself, he can't be anti-semitic and that obviously not the goal of the post he made.

THAT'S what I'm empathetic too. No one is actually listening to him!! We just get outraged by the click bait snippets which paint him in the most negative of lights. I hate how much negative media sells. It's trash and has to change but it won't if we as fans keep allowing that to be the revenue driver.

He doesn't want to just say "no" because he wants to make a larger point and he is well within his rights to do so. Instead of getting mad he isn't doing things the way he "should", how about we listen and then make decisions of what he's actually said and not what we didn't get.

Bro ppl wont hear. The media will have you believe kyrie n aaron hernadez are one in the same. Like his out here killing ppl, raping women, selling drugs. He tweeted a doc on twitter is this what its come to. Because he posted he has to believe 10000% everything in it, could see if posted the actual statement from Hitler that ppl are running with but he didnt. Didnt see this much media pub when Tom brady had a Maga hat in his locker.

[MrDollarBills]

The media will have you believe kyrie n aaron hernadez are one in the same

Who is saying that Kyrie spreading antisemetic propaganda is equal to Aaron Hernandez murdering people?

I guess when you're trying to defend the indefensible, false equivalences are all Kyrie's supporters have left.

[MrDollarBills]

again

It's really crazy how casual people in this fanbase take antisemitism.

Go take a look on Nets twitter and reddit and see what kind of crap is being said by Kyrie's followers. HE made it okay for them to spew antisemitism and harass the sh*t out of Jewish Nets fans who are now alienated by this garbage fanbase. It's the Trumpian effect, once a public figure with a following like Kyrie's puts this stuff out there, it doesn't go away.

You kyrie sympathizers can make snide remarks about me being the moral police because I don't support any of this horsesh*t, idgaf. Wrong is wrong.

[3pt_chucker]

Do you emphasize with the Jewish Net fans who have been harassed and insulted on social media because of this or does Kyrie's inability to comprehend why what he did was dangerous weigh more in you opinion?

What is there to listen to? What is he even trying to say? He's too cowardly/dumb to even present what he's even trying to say in a coherent manner, any time he's pressed to expound on it he gets belligerent. This is the guy you want to have empathy for? Wow. I thought better of you man, but I guess I was wrong.

It's really crazy how casual people in this fanbase take antisemitism.

WTF? You're missing my point. Kyrie was dumb for posting the documentary and is wrong for that.

Fans who are doing that stuff should be condemned. However, one Kyrie tweet does not make someone into bigot. That's not reality. Those "fans" just need an excuse to show their true colors and Kyrie is an idiot to give them that reason. He's also dumb for not recognizing the overall trash the documentary and book is and that posting it is wrong.

At the same time, you're falling for that trap where the media blows something out of the water because it generates revenue. I fell for it as well. I listened to what he actually said and it's actually coherent.

He has said he's an omnist. By definition(as as he's said) he can't be anti-semite. He also said that he believes he is of Afro-asiatic descent, which by Oxford dictionary definition, is part of the semitic group which is made up Western Asia, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, and parts of the Sahara. Therefore unless he hates himself, he can't be anti-semitic and that obviously not the goal of the post he made.

THAT'S what I'm empathetic too. No one is actually listening to him!! We just get outraged by the click bait snippets which paint him in the most negative of lights. I hate how much negative media sells. It's trash and has to change but it won't if we as fans keep allowing that to be the revenue driver.

He doesn't want to just say "no" because he wants to make a larger point and he is well within his rights to do so. Instead of getting mad he isn't doing things the way he "should", how about we listen and then make decisions of what he's actually said and not what we didn't get.

What's his larger point? That promoting a film that engages in outright Holocaust denial doesn't make him antisemitic because he is of Afro-asiatic descent?

That sounds like his usual mental gymnastics to me. By that logic, if its true that Hitler had Jewish ancestry, he wouldn't be antisemitic either. I don't buy that.

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Sigh. Listen to everything he said and not a quote from Nick Friedell of all people.

[3pt_chucker]

Do you emphasize with the Jewish Net fans who have been harassed and insulted on social media because of this or does Kyrie's inability to comprehend why what he did was dangerous weigh more in you opinion?

What is there to listen to? What is he even trying to say? He's too cowardly/dumb to even present what he's even trying to say in a coherent manner, any time he's pressed to expound on it he gets belligerent. This is the guy you want to have empathy for? Wow. I thought better of you man, but I guess I was wrong.

It's really crazy how casual people in this fanbase take antisemitism.

WTF? You're missing my point. Kyrie was dumb for posting the documentary and is wrong for that.

Fans who are doing that stuff should be condemned. However, one Kyrie tweet does not make someone into bigot. That's not reality. Those "fans" just need an excuse to show their true colors and Kyrie is an idiot to give them that reason. He's also dumb for not recognizing the overall trash the documentary and book is and that posting it is wrong.

At the same time, you're falling for that trap where the media blows something out of the water because it generates revenue. I fell for it as well. I listened to what he actually said and it's actually coherent.

He has said he's an omnist. By definition(as as he's said) he can't be anti-semite. He also said that he believes he is of Afro-asiatic descent, which by Oxford dictionary definition, is part of the semitic group which is made up Western Asia, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, and parts of the Sahara. Therefore unless he hates himself, he can't be anti-semitic and that obviously not the goal of the post he made.

THAT'S what I'm empathetic too. No one is actually listening to him!! We just get outraged by the click bait snippets which paint him in the most negative of lights. I hate how much negative media sells. It's trash and has to change but it won't if we as fans keep allowing that to be the revenue driver.

He doesn't want to just say "no" because he wants to make a larger point and he is well within his rights to do so. Instead of getting mad he isn't doing things the way he "should", how about we listen and then make decisions of what he's actually said and not what we didn't get.

Bro ppl wont hear. The media will have you believe kyrie n aaron hernadez are one in the same. Like his out here killing ppl, raping women, selling drugs. He tweeted a doc on twitter is this what its come to. Because he posted he has to believe 10000% everything in it, could see if posted the actual statement from Hitler that ppl are running with but he didnt. Didnt see this much media pub when Tom brady had a Maga hat in his locker.

FACTS. It's sad more than anything.

[3pt_chucker]

again

It's really crazy how casual people in this fanbase take antisemitism.

Go take a look on Nets twitter and reddit and see what kind of crap is being said by Kyrie's followers. HE made it okay for them to spew antisemitism and harass the sh*t out of Jewish Nets fans who are now alienated by this garbage fanbase. It's the Trumpian effect, once a public figure with a following like Kyrie's puts this stuff out there, it doesn't go away.

You kyrie sympathizers can make snide remarks about me being the moral police because I don't support any of this horsesh*t, idgaf. Wrong is wrong.

So Kyrie is making people bigots now?? WTF, this is so disingenuous and reductionist. Look at my post history. I'm not a Kyrie "sympathizer". I've called him out on several occasions. Peopl have been posting crap on social media longer before Kyrie. Stop that BS narrative.

I said posting the video was wrong but the reaction to it is far out sized by the actual act he did. Also, no one is listening to him but only want to be moral police and an angry mob.

As I said, negativity sells and the more we buy into it the more s*** like this continuities and we the fans sure as heck are not profiting from it like ESPN, etc etc does.

[MGrand15]

I'm really starting to empathize with Kyrie here. It really feels like a gigantic overreaction to this.

No one is actually listening to him, which is what he really wants but instead demanding he be contrite.

He's clearly a contrarian, who at times is in over his head but that does not mean he has to be treated like some evil villain. Since when has curiosity been bad? Yes he's dumb to question everything but as a fan of the X-files and a scientist, I really understand where he's coming from. Too bad he doesn't have someone in his camp that can channel that properly.

In terms of the Nets tho, it's just been too many non-basketball problems from Kyrie which makes it exhausting. While I think the Nets have been horrible at times with managing him, the juice just might not be worth the squeeze.

Do you emphasize with the Jewish Net fans who have been harassed and insulted on social media because of this or does Kyrie's inability to comprehend why what he did was dangerous weigh more in you opinion?

What is there to listen to? What is he even trying to say? He's too cowardly/dumb to even present what he's even trying to say in a coherent manner, any time he's pressed to expound on it he gets belligerent. This is the guy you want to have empathy for? Wow. I thought better of you man, but I guess I was wrong.

It's really crazy how casual people in this fanbase take antisemitism.

WTF? You're missing my point. Kyrie was dumb for posting the documentary and is wrong for that.

Fans who are doing that stuff should be condemned. However, one Kyrie tweet does not make someone into bigot. That's not reality. Those "fans" just need an excuse to show their true colors and Kyrie is an idiot to give them that reason. He's also dumb for not recognizing the overall trash the documentary and book is and that posting it is wrong.

At the same time, you're falling for that trap where the media blows something out of the water because it generates revenue. I fell for it as well. I listened to what he actually said and it's actually coherent.

He has said he's an omnist. By definition(as as he's said) he can't be anti-semite. He also said that he believes he is of Afro-asiatic descent, which by Oxford dictionary definition, is part of the semitic group which is made up Western Asia, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, and parts of the Sahara. Therefore unless he hates himself, he can't be anti-semitic and that obviously not the goal of the post he made.

THAT'S what I'm empathetic too. No one is actually listening to him!! We just get outraged by the click bait snippets which paint him in the most negative of lights. I hate how much negative media sells. It's trash and has to change but it won't if we as fans keep allowing that to be the revenue driver.

He doesn't want to just say "no" because he wants to make a larger point and he is well within his rights to do so. Instead of getting mad he isn't doing things the way he "should", how about we listen and then make decisions of what he's actually said and not what we didn't get.

I get what you're saying but you're being WAY too generous to Kyrie here.

One tweet doesn't make someone a bigot. But he's been given ample opportunity to 1. apologize or 2. point out where he disagrees with the doc specifically. BTW - with Kyrie's history and the lack of interest he had over the summer - he and his team are VERY aware that Kyrie may get to the point where ZERO teams want him. Knowing that and knowing how simple it would be to shut this down - for Kyrie to not do that - it's not just a tweet. It's a STRONG endorsement of everything in the documentary.

I also disagree that people aren't listening. In his attempt to make a larger point, he's side stepping A LOT of direct questions. The media is actually giving him the chance to be clear. He's obviously side-stepping the questions intentionally because he does believe what the doc says - but the media is letting him clear the record. He's had 3 chances to do it and he hasn't.

Cut it out with the evil villain stuff. Nothing has happened to Kyrie so far. What happens next is up to him. The NBA and the Nets have given him a ton of leeway.

[MrDollarBills]

WTF? You're missing my point. Kyrie was dumb for posting the documentary and is wrong for that.

Fans who are doing that stuff should be condemned. However, one Kyrie tweet does not make someone into bigot. That's not reality. Those "fans" just need an excuse to show their true colors and Kyrie is an idiot to give them that reason. He's also dumb for not recognizing the overall trash the documentary and book is and that posting it is wrong.

At the same time, you're falling for that trap where the media blows something out of the water because it generates revenue. I fell for it as well. I listened to what he actually said and it's actually coherent.

He has said he's an omnist. By definition(as as he's said) he can't be anti-semite. He also said that he believes he is of Afro-asiatic descent, which by Oxford dictionary definition, is part of the semitic group which is made up Western Asia, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, and parts of the Sahara. Therefore unless he hates himself, he can't be anti-semitic and that obviously not the goal of the post he made.

THAT'S what I'm empathetic too. No one is actually listening to him!! We just get outraged by the click bait snippets which paint him in the most negative of lights. I hate how much negative media sells. It's trash and has to change but it won't if we as fans keep allowing that to be the revenue driver.

He doesn't want to just say "no" because he wants to make a larger point and he is well within his rights to do so. Instead of getting mad he isn't doing things the way he "should", how about we listen and then make decisions of what he's actually said and not what we didn't get.

What's his larger point? That promoting a film that engages in outright Holocaust denial doesn't make him antisemitic because he is of Afro-asiatic descent?

That sounds like his usual mental gymnastics to me. By that logic, if its true that Hitler had Jewish ancestry, he wouldn't be antisemitic either. I don't buy that.

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Sigh. Listen to everything he said and not a quote from Nick Friedell of all people.

I've listened to everything that he's said. He's basically giving a canned response I've heard before from Black Hebrew Israelites that I actually know (and why I am very adamant about being against this crap) when they get called out about their antisemitism. "Oh, I can't be antisemitic because I'm also a semite". It's disingenuous crap. The same ones who think Hitler was awesome for gassing the "fake jews"....which is ironic, because they also in the same breath believe that the holocaust was not real.

You clearly have no idea what you're defending, and it's sad.

[MrDollarBills]

Do you emphasize with the Jewish Net fans who have been harassed and insulted on social media because of this or does Kyrie's inability to comprehend why what he did was dangerous weigh more in you opinion?

What is there to listen to? What is he even trying to say? He's too cowardly/dumb to even present what he's even trying to say in a coherent manner, any time he's pressed to expound on it he gets belligerent. This is the guy you want to have empathy for? Wow. I thought better of you man, but I guess I was wrong.

It's really crazy how casual people in this fanbase take antisemitism.

WTF? You're missing my point. Kyrie was dumb for posting the documentary and is wrong for that.

Fans who are doing that stuff should be condemned. However, one Kyrie tweet does not make someone into bigot. That's not reality. Those "fans" just need an excuse to show their true colors and Kyrie is an idiot to give them that reason. He's also dumb for not recognizing the overall trash the documentary and book is and that posting it is wrong.

At the same time, you're falling for that trap where the media blows something out of the water because it generates revenue. I fell for it as well. I listened to what he actually said and it's actually coherent.

He has said he's an omnist. By definition(as as he's said) he can't be anti-semite. He also said that he believes he is of Afro-asiatic descent, which by Oxford dictionary definition, is part of the semitic group which is made up Western Asia, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, and parts of the Sahara. Therefore unless he hates himself, he can't be anti-semitic and that obviously not the goal of the post he made.

THAT'S what I'm empathetic too. No one is actually listening to him!! We just get outraged by the click bait snippets which paint him in the most negative of lights. I hate how much negative media sells. It's trash and has to change but it won't if we as fans keep allowing that to be the revenue driver.

He doesn't want to just say "no" because he wants to make a larger point and he is well within his rights to do so. Instead of getting mad he isn't doing things the way he "should", how about we listen and then make decisions of what he's actually said and not what we didn't get.

I get what you're saying but you're being WAY too generous to Kyrie here.

One tweet doesn't make someone a bigot. But he's been given ample opportunity to 1. apologize or 2. point out where he disagrees with the doc specifically. BTW - with Kyrie's history and the lack of interest he had over the summer - he and his team are VERY aware that Kyrie may get to the point where ZERO teams want him. Knowing that and knowing how simple it would be to shut this down - for Kyrie to not do that - it's not just a tweet. It's a STRONG endorsement of everything in the documentary.

I also disagree that people aren't listening. In his attempt to make a larger point, he's side stepping A LOT of direct questions. The media is actually giving him the chance to be clear. He's obviously side-stepping the questions intentionally because he does believe what the doc says - but the media is letting him clear the record. He's had 3 chances to do it and he hasn't.

Cut it out with the evil villain stuff. Nothing has happened to Kyrie so far. What happens next is up to him. The NBA and the Nets have given him a ton of leeway.

The round about way he's approaching this says to me that he actually did agree with it. I'm not giving him the benefit of a doubt, he doesn't deserve it at this point.

[3pt_chucker]

Do you emphasize with the Jewish Net fans who have been harassed and insulted on social media because of this or does Kyrie's inability to comprehend why what he did was dangerous weigh more in you opinion?

What is there to listen to? What is he even trying to say? He's too cowardly/dumb to even present what he's even trying to say in a coherent manner, any time he's pressed to expound on it he gets belligerent. This is the guy you want to have empathy for? Wow. I thought better of you man, but I guess I was wrong.

It's really crazy how casual people in this fanbase take antisemitism.

WTF? You're missing my point. Kyrie was dumb for posting the documentary and is wrong for that.

Fans who are doing that stuff should be condemned. However, one Kyrie tweet does not make someone into bigot. That's not reality. Those "fans" just need an excuse to show their true colors and Kyrie is an idiot to give them that reason. He's also dumb for not recognizing the overall trash the documentary and book is and that posting it is wrong.

At the same time, you're falling for that trap where the media blows something out of the water because it generates revenue. I fell for it as well. I listened to what he actually said and it's actually coherent.

He has said he's an omnist. By definition(as as he's said) he can't be anti-semite. He also said that he believes he is of Afro-asiatic descent, which by Oxford dictionary definition, is part of the semitic group which is made up Western Asia, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, and parts of the Sahara. Therefore unless he hates himself, he can't be anti-semitic and that obviously not the goal of the post he made.

THAT'S what I'm empathetic too. No one is actually listening to him!! We just get outraged by the click bait snippets which paint him in the most negative of lights. I hate how much negative media sells. It's trash and has to change but it won't if we as fans keep allowing that to be the revenue driver.

He doesn't want to just say "no" because he wants to make a larger point and he is well within his rights to do so. Instead of getting mad he isn't doing things the way he "should", how about we listen and then make decisions of what he's actually said and not what we didn't get.

I get what you're saying but you're being WAY too generous to Kyrie here.

One tweet doesn't make someone a bigot. But he's been given ample opportunity to 1. apologize or 2. point out where he disagrees with the doc specifically. BTW - with Kyrie's history and the lack of interest he had over the summer - he and his team are VERY aware that Kyrie may get to the point where ZERO teams want him. Knowing that and knowing how simple it would be to shut this down - for Kyrie to not do that - it's not just a tweet. It's a STRONG endorsement of everything in the documentary.

I also disagree that people aren't listening. In his attempt to make a larger point, he's side stepping A LOT of direct questions. The media is actually giving him the chance to be clear. He's obviously side-stepping the questions intentionally because he does believe what the doc says - but the media is letting him clear the record. He's had 3 chances to do it and he hasn't.

Cut it out with the evil villain stuff. Nothing has happened to Kyrie so far. What happens next is up to him. The NBA and the Nets have given him a ton of leeway.

1. He's apologized in his one way. Why can't you accept that? Is the word sorry truly that impactful? Should the actual thought and sentiment matter way more?

2. Why do you need a point by point breakdown?? He already said he's not anti-semetic so why is there still this much outrage?

3. No he's not. He's answering them but people are not even listening to his answers so he's not being cooperative when they repeat the same narrative over and over.

I hate it here.

[3pt_chucker]

WTF? You're missing my point. Kyrie was dumb for posting the documentary and is wrong for that.

Fans who are doing that stuff should be condemned. However, one Kyrie tweet does not make someone into bigot. That's not reality. Those "fans" just need an excuse to show their true colors and Kyrie is an idiot to give them that reason. He's also dumb for not recognizing the overall trash the documentary and book is and that posting it is wrong.

At the same time, you're falling for that trap where the media blows something out of the water because it generates revenue. I fell for it as well. I listened to what he actually said and it's actually coherent.

He has said he's an omnist. By definition(as as he's said) he can't be anti-semite. He also said that he believes he is of Afro-asiatic descent, which by Oxford dictionary definition, is part of the semitic group which is made up Western Asia, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, and parts of the Sahara. Therefore unless he hates himself, he can't be anti-semitic and that obviously not the goal of the post he made.

THAT'S what I'm empathetic too. No one is actually listening to him!! We just get outraged by the click bait snippets which paint him in the most negative of lights. I hate how much negative media sells. It's trash and has to change but it won't if we as fans keep allowing that to be the revenue driver.

He doesn't want to just say "no" because he wants to make a larger point and he is well within his rights to do so. Instead of getting mad he isn't doing things the way he "should", how about we listen and then make decisions of what he's actually said and not what we didn't get.

I get what you're saying but you're being WAY too generous to Kyrie here.

One tweet doesn't make someone a bigot. But he's been given ample opportunity to 1. apologize or 2. point out where he disagrees with the doc specifically. BTW - with Kyrie's history and the lack of interest he had over the summer - he and his team are VERY aware that Kyrie may get to the point where ZERO teams want him. Knowing that and knowing how simple it would be to shut this down - for Kyrie to not do that - it's not just a tweet. It's a STRONG endorsement of everything in the documentary.

I also disagree that people aren't listening. In his attempt to make a larger point, he's side stepping A LOT of direct questions. The media is actually giving him the chance to be clear. He's obviously side-stepping the questions intentionally because he does believe what the doc says - but the media is letting him clear the record. He's had 3 chances to do it and he hasn't.

Cut it out with the evil villain stuff. Nothing has happened to Kyrie so far. What happens next is up to him. The NBA and the Nets have given him a ton of leeway.

The round about way he's approaching this says to me that he actually did agree with it. I'm not giving him the benefit of a doubt, he doesn't deserve it at this point.

It says to me you want it to be true even while he's saying it's not.

[3pt_chucker]

What's his larger point? That promoting a film that engages in outright Holocaust denial doesn't make him antisemitic because he is of Afro-asiatic descent?

That sounds like his usual mental gymnastics to me. By that logic, if its true that Hitler had Jewish ancestry, he wouldn't be antisemitic either. I don't buy that.

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Sigh. Listen to everything he said and not a quote from Nick Friedell of all people.

I've listened to everything that he's said. He's basically giving a canned response I've heard before from Black Hebrew Israelites that I actually know (and why I am very adamant about being against this crap) when they get called out about their antisemitism. "Oh, I can't be antisemitic because I'm also a semite". It's disingenuous crap. The same ones who think Hitler was awesome for gassing the "fake jews"....which is ironic, because they also in the same breath believe that the holocaust was not real.

You clearly have no idea what you're defending, and it's sad.

So instead of listening to what he's saying and taking his word, he's the same as other people you know. Got it.

I know people like that too btw.

[3pt_chucker]

Gonna need a break from here. Tired of the rage circle jerk

[MrDollarBills]

I get what you're saying but you're being WAY too generous to Kyrie here.

One tweet doesn't make someone a bigot. But he's been given ample opportunity to 1. apologize or 2. point out where he disagrees with the doc specifically. BTW - with Kyrie's history and the lack of interest he had over the summer - he and his team are VERY aware that Kyrie may get to the point where ZERO teams want him. Knowing that and knowing how simple it would be to shut this down - for Kyrie to not do that - it's not just a tweet. It's a STRONG endorsement of everything in the documentary.

I also disagree that people aren't listening. In his attempt to make a larger point, he's side stepping A LOT of direct questions. The media is actually giving him the chance to be clear. He's obviously side-stepping the questions intentionally because he does believe what the doc says - but the media is letting him clear the record. He's had 3 chances to do it and he hasn't.

Cut it out with the evil villain stuff. Nothing has happened to Kyrie so far. What happens next is up to him. The NBA and the Nets have given him a ton of leeway.

The round about way he's approaching this says to me that he actually did agree with it. I'm not giving him the benefit of a doubt, he doesn't deserve it at this point.

It says to me you want it to be true even while he's saying it's not.

Just say you're sympathetic to what he's done and the backlash he's received and get it over with bro. You're getting defensive now.

[MrDollarBills]

Gonna need a break from here. Tired of the rage circle jerk

You're casual towards antisemitism. If that upsets you, look inward.

[Eatgreenz]

What's his larger point? That promoting a film that engages in outright Holocaust denial doesn't make him antisemitic because he is of Afro-asiatic descent?

That sounds like his usual mental gymnastics to me. By that logic, if its true that Hitler had Jewish ancestry, he wouldn't be antisemitic either. I don't buy that.

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Sigh. Listen to everything he said and not a quote from Nick Friedell of all people.

I've listened to everything that he's said. He's basically giving a canned response I've heard before from Black Hebrew Israelites that I actually know (and why I am very adamant about being against this crap) when they get called out about their antisemitism. "Oh, I can't be antisemitic because I'm also a semite". It's disingenuous crap. The same ones who think Hitler was awesome for gassing the "fake jews"....which is ironic, because they also in the same breath believe that the holocaust was not real.

You clearly have no idea what you're defending, and it's sad.

Cmon bro Kyrie literally said in his interview he does not believe anything with Hitler. It seems kyrie believes blacks to be the original jews, thats what he wanted ppl to check out the doc for that info, and if thats what he believes that his choice. Why are we getting 24/7 newscast on kyrie like he said all Jews should die. The media is turning him to a villian that you dont even remember the evil stuff brett farve out here doing.