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Post#541 » by MyUniBroDavis » Thu Nov 3, 2022 7:54 am

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yoyoboy wrote:Like I said before the season when I was getting killed for it, he's a lower-level All Star at this point, at least in the regular season. And he's old, so that's not a criticism. It's just reality.


He's got a foot injury and was apparently sick leading up to this game. Which explains a lot. He looked great against Denver though. I still believe Lebron has another gear. But he shouldn't have been playing if he's sick. He damn near lost us the game.

Don't you find it concerning that a "great" LeBron game now is 26 points on below 54% TS with so-so defense though?


It’s not a great lebron game lol, but he’s sick and apparently couldn’t get out of bed

Covid hit a bit hard pre Halloween so it’s probably that lol

I wouldn’t say his defense was so-so, it was pretty darn good
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Post#542 » by zimpy27 » Thu Nov 3, 2022 9:05 am

People been talking about the LeBron decline since the 2013 season..

It's been nearly a decade since people started ushering in the rapid decline. I think we will only know after it's all happened.

Yeah he is not at peak but he's still not far off IMO. Just lacks stamina to bring it in the RS.
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Post#543 » by IG2 » Thu Nov 3, 2022 10:00 am

LeBron was huffing and puffing literally the entire game (sick?). Defensive effort was nonexistent and he hasn't been able to hit anything from the perimeter all year. Safe to say he cost them the game. But the Lakers don't look as discouraging as earlier in the season. If they could just somehow start hitting 3's at anything resembling career percentages....
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Post#544 » by Slava » Thu Nov 3, 2022 1:11 pm

Getting someone a bit more dynamic like Schröder in the starting line up could make a big difference when LeBron is not feeling like shouldering the playmaking load with Westbrook consigned to leading second units.
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Post#545 » by Slava » Thu Nov 3, 2022 1:13 pm

Statlanta wrote:If you created a role playing pg from scratch to fit prime LeBron it would be Patrick Beverley.


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Post#547 » by Ian Scuffling » Thu Nov 3, 2022 2:58 pm

LOL..Always love reading knee jerk, ankle biting reactions in a game thread. He's playing like the best 37 or 38 year old wing...ever. He certainly isn't prime Lebron, anymore, which is to be expected. Plus, I guess he was sick for whatever that means. This, at least for me, is the "just enjoy the arguable GOAT still playing at a pretty high level" period of his career.
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Post#548 » by SweetTouch » Thu Nov 3, 2022 3:34 pm

2:30 left in Overtime, zion goes straight to the rim and LBJ put his body on the line to take the charge

Zion missed the lay in

young blood did not see lockdown defense coming
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Post#549 » by jalengreen » Thu Nov 3, 2022 3:38 pm

SweetTouch wrote:2:30 left in Overtime, zion goes straight to the rim and LBJ put his body on the line to take the charge

Zion missed the lay in

young blood did not see lockdown defense coming

worth mentioning that zion was on 5 fouls. likely scared him
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Post#550 » by jalengreen » Thu Nov 3, 2022 3:40 pm

LeBron’s offense has been frustrating at times with his weak jumper and poor shot selection … but he’s been playing strong defense his entire Lakers tenure and that has not changed IMO. Criticizing his defensive effort is surprising to me because that’s not been my takeaway at all
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Post#551 » by falcolombardi » Thu Nov 3, 2022 4:59 pm

jalengreen wrote:LeBron’s offense has been frustrating at times with his weak jumper and poor shot selection … but he’s been playing strong defense his entire Lakers tenure and that has not changed IMO. Criticizing his defensive effort is surprising to me because that’s not been my takeaway at all


People evaluation of lebron defense has always been a weird thingh
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Post#552 » by SweetTouch » Thu Nov 3, 2022 4:59 pm

jalengreen wrote:
SweetTouch wrote:2:30 left in Overtime, zion goes straight to the rim and LBJ put his body on the line to take the charge

Zion missed the lay in

young blood did not see lockdown defense coming

worth mentioning that zion was on 5 fouls. likely scared him



22 years old young blood vs 2 months from 38 years old
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Post#553 » by letskissbro » Thu Nov 3, 2022 5:26 pm

AD is starting to get a DPOY push from the fans but the Lakers' defense is 4.2 points better with him on the bench so far. Besides last season, when the Lakers weren't playing any bigs and fielded some of the worst perimeter defenders in the league making AD irreplaceable, there's been this consistent trend where he looks like a DPOY candidate but on/off and impact stats do not corroborate that at all. Has anyone been able to pinpoint why this is happening?

Somebody on Twitter made a highlight reel of his awful transition defense against Jokic in their first matchup against the Nuggets. Could that be it?
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Post#554 » by MyUniBroDavis » Thu Nov 3, 2022 6:18 pm

letskissbro wrote:AD is starting to get a DPOY push from the fans but the Lakers' defense is 4.2 points better with him on the bench so far. Besides last season, when the Lakers weren't playing any bigs and fielded some of the worst perimeter defenders in the league making AD irreplaceable, there's been this consistent trend where he looks like a DPOY candidate but on/off and impact stats do not corroborate that at all. Has anyone been able to pinpoint why this is happening?

Somebody on Twitter made a highlight reel of his awful transition defense against Jokic in their first matchup against the Nuggets. Could that be it?


His defense has been great this year, it’s early on and Russ has the best impact stats in the team of the minute getters

I think his D the past two years wasn’t great, 2020 his on/off wasn’t great but his impact stuff was decent, but he’s not irreplaceable if you’re mainly running drop

They’re a smart defensive unit that won’t fall off a cliff without him, but he’s been great defensively
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Post#555 » by Colbinii » Thu Nov 3, 2022 6:35 pm

letskissbro wrote:AD is starting to get a DPOY push from the fans but the Lakers' defense is 4.2 points better with him on the bench so far. Besides last season, when the Lakers weren't playing any bigs and fielded some of the worst perimeter defenders in the league making AD irreplaceable, there's been this consistent trend where he looks like a DPOY candidate but on/off and impact stats do not corroborate that at all. Has anyone been able to pinpoint why this is happening?

Somebody on Twitter made a highlight reel of his awful transition defense against Jokic in their first matchup against the Nuggets. Could that be it?


As opposed to Gobert where the Timberwolves are 13.2 Points/100 better defensively with him than without him.
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Post#556 » by falcolombardi » Thu Nov 3, 2022 7:14 pm

I wonder if davis skillset just works better in the playoffs where versatility shines and less so in regular season where teams dont exploit the less mobile and athletic bigs as much. He is a strong rim protector but is his mobility what sets him apart from most bigs

Last season giannis on-off in defense exploded in the playoffs compared to regular season in spite of not having brook lopez for a lot of the regular season (one would expect the opposite) for i suppose similar reasons

Davis (and giannis) are not 7'2 giants with once a generation wingspan like gobert, if they were full time centers in older eras they wouldnt stand out as much in pure "static' rim protection compared to all the huge 7+ footers. Is their athletism and ability to move like wings at 6'11/7'0 that sets them apart
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Post#557 » by MyUniBroDavis » Thu Nov 3, 2022 7:36 pm

falcolombardi wrote:I wonder if davis skillset just works better in the playoffs where versatility shines and less so in regular season where teams dont exploit the less mobile and athletic bigs as much. He is a strong rim protector but is his mobility what sets him apart from most bigs

Last season giannis on-off in defense exploded in the playoffs compared to regular season in spite of not having brook lopez for a lot of the regular season (one would expect the opposite) for i suppose similar reasons

Davis (and giannis) are not 7'2 giants with once a generation wingspan like gobert, if they were full time centers in older eras they wouldnt stand out as much in pure "static' rim protection compared to all the huge 7+ footers. Is their athletism and ability to move like wings at 6'11/7'0 that sets them apart


Yeah it’s this too, if a team is gonna run drop mostly players that excel at that are gonna have more impact

Of course I think anyone watching the Lakers thinking AD has been poor defensively outside of the times he was hobbled (a quarter a game Tbf lol) need to get their eyes checked
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Post#558 » by tsherkin » Thu Nov 3, 2022 8:40 pm

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Wasn't his freshman season only played against other freshman teams? They didn't allow freshman to compete in varsity sports back then iirc.


Which tidily illustrates the difference in impact as he moved from one level to the next, yeah? He never averaged 30+ again in the NCAA, nor 20+ rpg. Hitting the NBA, he averaged 28.8 after four years at UCLA and hit 31.7 in his second season, but it is unlikely he'd have been that same level of efficacy a half-decade prior as an 18 or 19 year-old in the NBA. Which, of course, is well and normal.


but it is unlikely he'd have been that same level of efficacy a half-decade prior as an 18 or 19 year-old in the NBA. Which, of course, is well and normal

That is essentially my main point, i dont think 18 year old kareem would have been a much higher volume scorer than 19 years old lebron who scored 21 a game out of high school


Im on that train for sure. Not as developed physically or in skills, no doubt.
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Post#559 » by nzahir » Thu Nov 3, 2022 10:49 pm

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Post#560 » by thebigbird » Fri Nov 4, 2022 12:12 am

With the Kyrie situation getting worse and worse in Brooklyn maybe they’d be willing to trade him for Westbrook/picks now. Would be a huge help for this team.

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