Around the League - Curry Out "A few weeks"

[raferfenix]

Still stunned they essentially gave up six number one picks.

And they drop below .500 with the L tonight.

The Gobert trade has the potential to be one of the worst in league history.

And I'm a fan of Rudy!

Rather betting on KAT seems like just such a huge risk given the leadership concerns even aside from the potential for the fit to not be so great.

If Ant is bucking though that increases the danger demonstrably. If he's not happy in Minnesota that'd make a backup plan of trading KAT when they can that much less appealing.

Can't imagine the Wolves pulling comparable value for Gobert is their problem. They're pot committed with him for a few years at least.

[emunney]

He only fouled him like 3 different times on the play. Holy ****.

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Holy **** that's awful.

LMAO at "foul or no foul". Did the Hindenburg crash? You be the judge!

[emunney]

Reminds me of all the years we struggled and got absolutely hosed in end-game situations against prestige franchises. But I don't think we ever had anything as egregious as that.

[PG Graveyard]

He only fouled him like 3 different times on the play. Holy ****.

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Officials should have been wearing a Warriors jersey while not making that call.

[raferfenix]

Didn't realize the Spurs' GM was mentioned so prominently in the Primo suit.

Makes sense that they'd take previous trade proposals off the table -- especially anything that has to do with Russ -- and that San Antonio would want to stay competitive and avoid "looking even more dysfunctional than they already look" in this context.

Said an agent with multiple clients in the NBA: “If what we heard is true, [Wright] and everyone else involved should be fired."

For what it’s worth, the Spurs have gone on record to disagree with the “fact, details and timeline” presented at the press conference.

-Around the time that the Primo story broke, the Spurs alerted other teams that all trade proposals were off the table. As of Sunday night, that remains the case.

Why are the Spurs not currently engaged in any trade talk? The most logical answer is that the franchise is busy dealing with the Primo-related fallout.

However, it’s also possible that San Antonio’s better than expected start to the season has the Spurs reevaluating what they want to accomplish in the trade market. Heading into the campaign, the Spurs were projected to be one of the worst teams in the NBA. But instead of tanking to the bottom of the league, the team has been surprisingly competitive.

If Johnson and Vassell keep excelling and the Spurs continue to show the togetherness that has resulted in the team leading the league in assists per game, the franchise may opt to keep their squad together.

-Prior to ceasing all trade talk, the Spurs were clear in their demands. To trade Jakob Poeltl, they wanted two minimally-protected first round picks. For Josh Richardson, San Antonio was requesting one first round pick. The Spurs also wanted positive value back if they were to trade Doug McDermott.

According to a source, the Los Angeles Lakers have targeted Richardson and McDermott in a trade that would involve Russell Westbrook. However, talks haven’t gained traction because the Lakers are only willing to relinquish a pair of second round picks in return for both players.

Richardson (41.9%) and McDermott (43.1%) have been shooting extremely well from three-point range this season for the Spurs. Considering the Lakers are last in the league in three-point shooting at 28.4%, Los Angeles may eventually decide to increase their offer for San Antonio’s sharpshooting duo.

https://www.spurstalk.com/latest-spurs-intel-joshua-primo-bombshell/

[Ron Swanson]

Always funny to see the "we want multiple first round picks for our average starter/rotation guy" takes get strategically leaked to the media. Spurs are no exception I see.

[Licensed to Il]

Reminds me of all the years we struggled and got absolutely hosed in end-game situations against prestige franchises. But I don't think we ever had anything as egregious as that.

I remember one home game vs the Lakers in the mid Bogut era. Kobe came down and absolutely put his shoulder down in the paint and bulldozed Bogut on what was a clear and easy charge. Like, an egregious charge. Foul on Bogut. On the next possession, Kobe hit a jumper and it made the rounds on sportscenter the rest of the month.

[paulpressey25]

Always funny to see the "we want multiple first round picks for our average starter/rotation guy" takes get strategically leaked to the media. Spurs are no exception I see.

Thinking back to the Bucks trading a first to the Suns for Elliot "Socks" Perry.

[emunney]

Always funny to see the "we want multiple first round picks for our average starter/rotation guy" takes get strategically leaked to the media. Spurs are no exception I see.

Thinking back to the Bucks trading a first to the Suns for Elliot "Socks" Perry.

Obviously we traded for him because we knew we'd need that salary 3 years later for the Cassell deal.

By the way, we talk a lot about the Ray Allen trade, but we don't talk about how we got jack **** for Cassell. Love Joe Smith and all, but come on.

[paulpressey25]

By the way, we talk a lot about the Ray Allen trade, but we don't talk about how we got jack **** for Cassell. Love Joe Smith and all, but come on.

Disagree there. We had a great 2003-04 season due to Joe Smith, and at that moment TJ Ford was the man at PG. Joe was also still useful for another two years IMO.

Now, if you knew TJ's neck would compress, then yes, you'd never have dealt him.

I do remember seeing that trade hit the message boards on I believe a Friday afternoon, when I was at the Minneapolis airport. All hell broke loose.

[emunney]

By the way, we talk a lot about the Ray Allen trade, but we don't talk about how we got jack **** for Cassell. Love Joe Smith and all, but come on.

Disagree there. We had a great 2003-04 season due to Joe Smith, and at that moment TJ Ford was the man at PG. Joe was also still useful for another two years IMO.

Now, if you knew TJ's neck would compress, then yes, you'd never have dealt him.

I do remember seeing that trade hit the message boards on I believe a Friday afternoon, when I was at the Minneapolis airport. All hell broke loose.

My standard of "great year" has changed quite a bit over the past few. .500 no longer qualifies. Meanwhile Cassell made an ASG and played in 49 playoff games after the trade, including that 58 win season and WCF run the year after he was traded.

I'd also argue that Ray Allen trade throw-in Desmond Mason had a lot more to do with winning half our games that year than Sam Cassell centerpiece Joe Smith did.

[VooDoo7]

Sam was my favorite of the Big 3. I was so sad when he was dealt. Still have a pair of his game-worn shoes he gave me. I was also sad to see Ervin go in that deal. Not because he was good, but because he was such a nice guy. Good ol butterfingers.

[raferfenix]

Always funny to see the "we want multiple first round picks for our average starter/rotation guy" takes get strategically leaked to the media. Spurs are no exception I see.

Thinking back to the Bucks trading a first to the Suns for Elliot "Socks" Perry.

Definitely possible the Spurs are negotiating through the media by airing how they pulled trade proposals.

That article also started with an emphasis that San Antonio remains committed to Wright as GM. They could be using Primo + their winning record as an excuse to press the Lakers for more for the Westbrook package.

Or the Spurs are just legitimately over distant Lakers' picks as the incentive to buy out Russ and are letting the league know.

In that case maybe a Grayson Allen + future first for Josh Richardson deal could be plausible and the pause in trade talk is part of their poker game.

Whether the Bucks would give up that much for Richardson -- and whether he'd agree to a reasonable extension here -- are different questions too of course.

(Also am here for a good Socks Perry reference however we can come by it on these boards).

[paulpressey25]

My standard of "great year" has changed quite a bit over the past few. .500 no longer qualifies. Meanwhile Cassell made an ASG and played in 49 playoff games after the trade, including that 58 win season and WCF run the year after he was traded.

I'd also argue that Ray Allen trade throw-in Desmond Mason had a lot more to do with winning half our games that year than Sam Cassell centerpiece Joe Smith did.

Love Bucks nostalgia debates. Smith was unbelievably good for us that year with interior defense. He and Brian Skinner kept the team in a lot of games.

[buckboy]

Always funny to see the "we want multiple first round picks for our average starter/rotation guy" takes get strategically leaked to the media. Spurs are no exception I see.

Thinking back to the Bucks trading a first to the Suns for Elliot "Socks" Perry.

Elliot Perry was no Lester Conner that's for sure.

[DanoMac]

Felt like Skinner had 8 different stints here

[emunney]

Justification for Smart winning the DPOY last year was best defender on the best defensive team. Fast forward, Boston has the 23rd defense in the league, and:

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Smart is a great all-around glue guy, but he is incredibly overrated as a defensive player.

[RiotPunch]

Those deals were catastrophes, but man I loved Desmond Mason and Joe Smith. I was much more forgiving as a young RiotPunch.

[MikeIsGood]

Justification for Smart winning the DPOY last year was best defender on the best defensive team. Fast forward, Boston has the 23rd defense in the league, and:

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Smart is a great all-around glue guy, but he is incredibly overrated as a defensive player.

Once you get in you stay in for a while. It's like winning a Gold Glove.

[Ron Swanson]

Holy **** that's bad lol. Always amazes me with how much statistics and defensive metrics we have available now, that the media in general is still this dumb about the DPOTY award.