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Post#301 » by UcanUwill » Wed Nov 9, 2022 5:37 pm

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Post#302 » by King4Day » Thu Nov 10, 2022 4:15 am

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Memories wrote:If the Pelicans got the 1st pick, would they take Victor or Scoot?


Every team would draft Victor #1 without thinking about it for one second. But especially the Pelicans. There is not a better pairing for Zion then Wemby. Zion wrecking havoc inside while Wemby is the outside threat and playmaker from the high post while shutting down the defense. Give it 5 years and that's the best 4/5 pairing ever


They do have Jonas Val tho…

I mean I get that, but if Scoot is also a franchise player, and point guard is a HUGE NEED for the Pelicans, then him, with CJ next to him in the backcourt, Ingram, Zion, Val…there’s no weakness in that lineup.

But I also understand the can’t miss prospect as well.


I feel like if they wanted Scoot, they would trade back to #2. They could probably get another protected first, or more, just to move back a spot.
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Post#303 » by tmorgan » Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:30 am

King4Day wrote:
Memories wrote:
peZt wrote:
Every team would draft Victor #1 without thinking about it for one second. But especially the Pelicans. There is not a better pairing for Zion then Wemby. Zion wrecking havoc inside while Wemby is the outside threat and playmaker from the high post while shutting down the defense. Give it 5 years and that's the best 4/5 pairing ever


They do have Jonas Val tho…

I mean I get that, but if Scoot is also a franchise player, and point guard is a HUGE NEED for the Pelicans, then him, with CJ next to him in the backcourt, Ingram, Zion, Val…there’s no weakness in that lineup.

But I also understand the can’t miss prospect as well.


I feel like if they wanted Scoot, they would trade back to #2. They could probably get another protected first, or more, just to move back a spot.


Protected first? Lolz.

Any team at 2nd overall in this draft that wants the first pick, assuming VW hasn’t severely injured himself, would be paying upwards of FIVE unprotected firsts, and that’s assuming those are likely lottery picks, as in that team + Scoot can still be projected to suck.

Scoot’s a great prospect, don’t get me wrong. But imagine if Cleveland were willing to move off LeBron, or Orlando were willing to move off of Shaq. That’s what this costs.
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Post#304 » by Ruma85 » Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:59 am

tmorgan wrote:
King4Day wrote:
Memories wrote:
They do have Jonas Val tho…

I mean I get that, but if Scoot is also a franchise player, and point guard is a HUGE NEED for the Pelicans, then him, with CJ next to him in the backcourt, Ingram, Zion, Val…there’s no weakness in that lineup.

But I also understand the can’t miss prospect as well.


I feel like if they wanted Scoot, they would trade back to #2. They could probably get another protected first, or more, just to move back a spot.


Protected first? Lolz.

Any team at 2nd overall in this draft that wants the first pick, assuming VW hasn’t severely injured himself, would be paying upwards of FIVE unprotected firsts, and that’s assuming those are likely lottery picks, as in that team + Scoot can still be projected to suck.

Scoot’s a great prospect, don’t get me wrong. But imagine if Cleveland were willing to move off LeBron, or Orlando were willing to move off of Shaq. That’s what this costs.


would be paying upwards of FIVE unprotected firsts, I just cannot agree, why would any franchise do this??
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Post#305 » by tmorgan » Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:03 am

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tmorgan wrote:
King4Day wrote:
I feel like if they wanted Scoot, they would trade back to #2. They could probably get another protected first, or more, just to move back a spot.


Protected first? Lolz.

Any team at 2nd overall in this draft that wants the first pick, assuming VW hasn’t severely injured himself, would be paying upwards of FIVE unprotected firsts, and that’s assuming those are likely lottery picks, as in that team + Scoot can still be projected to suck.

Scoot’s a great prospect, don’t get me wrong. But imagine if Cleveland were willing to move off LeBron, or Orlando were willing to move off of Shaq. That’s what this costs.


would be paying upwards of FIVE unprotected firsts, I just cannot agree, why would any franchise do this??


I don’t see it happening, for the same reason Cleveland rebuffed any offers on LeBron. You just don’t trade away a true generational prospect. Victor is one.
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Post#306 » by Ruma85 » Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:09 am

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Protected first? Lolz.

Any team at 2nd overall in this draft that wants the first pick, assuming VW hasn’t severely injured himself, would be paying upwards of FIVE unprotected firsts, and that’s assuming those are likely lottery picks, as in that team + Scoot can still be projected to suck.

Scoot’s a great prospect, don’t get me wrong. But imagine if Cleveland were willing to move off LeBron, or Orlando were willing to move off of Shaq. That’s what this costs.


would be paying upwards of FIVE unprotected firsts, I just cannot agree, why would any franchise do this??


I don’t see it happening, for the same reason Cleveland rebuffed any offers on LeBron. You just don’t trade away a true generational prospect. Victor is one.


I'm not saying he isn't one, it's that i don't see any franchise trading 5 unprotected picks.
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Post#307 » by JN61 » Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:36 pm

Don't get the hype for this guy. I'm sure he is pretty ok player in NBA but I don't think he is all that what people here and elsewhere tout him to be.
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Post#308 » by Whole Truth » Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:46 pm

Ruma85 wrote:
tmorgan wrote:
Ruma85 wrote:
would be paying upwards of FIVE unprotected firsts, I just cannot agree, why would any franchise do this??


I don’t see it happening, for the same reason Cleveland rebuffed any offers on LeBron. You just don’t trade away a true generational prospect. Victor is one.


I'm not saying he isn't one, it's that i don't see any franchise trading 5 unprotected picks.


NO''s could without affecting their future much.

Lakers 23 if it doesn't land #1, Lakers 24/25, Bucks 27 & 2 NO's FRP unprotected.

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Post#309 » by kan_t » Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:56 pm

Memories wrote:
peZt wrote:
Memories wrote:If the Pelicans got the 1st pick, would they take Victor or Scoot?


Every team would draft Victor #1 without thinking about it for one second. But especially the Pelicans. There is not a better pairing for Zion then Wemby. Zion wrecking havoc inside while Wemby is the outside threat and playmaker from the high post while shutting down the defense. Give it 5 years and that's the best 4/5 pairing ever


They do have Jonas Val tho…

I mean I get that, but if Scoot is also a franchise player, and point guard is a HUGE NEED for the Pelicans, then him, with CJ next to him in the backcourt, Ingram, Zion, Val…there’s no weakness in that lineup.

But I also understand the can’t miss prospect as well.

PG is actually not a need for the Pelicans. Ingram, CJ and Zion all are at their best with ball in their hands. What they need is 3D players who could provide defense and spacing when all 3 are on the court.

They couldn't go wrong with either Scoot or Victor. But if they could choose they would definitely pick Victor.
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Post#310 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Nov 10, 2022 4:18 pm

ESPN is salivating having him next to Zion or Lamelo
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Post#311 » by Kilroy » Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:32 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:ESPN is salivating having him next to Zion or Lamelo


If he can stay healthy at the pro level, Wembanyama won't be better than Ingram for a couple years at least... So that's kind of a weird lust...

Lamelo is an ideal running mate with Wembanyama or Zion, but I'm not sure Zion and Wembanyama fit together any better than Zion/Ingram...
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Post#312 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:48 pm

Kilroy wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:ESPN is salivating having him next to Zion or Lamelo


If he can stay healthy at the pro level, Wembanyama won't be better than Ingram for a couple years at least... So that's kind of a weird lust...

Lamelo is an ideal running mate with Wembanyama or Zion, but I'm not sure Zion and Wembanyama fit together any better than Zion/Ingram...


Wembenyama isn't going to be playing on the wing in the NBA. Him Zion and Ingram can all play together.
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Post#313 » by Kilroy » Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:55 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:
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Liver_Pooty wrote:ESPN is salivating having him next to Zion or Lamelo


If he can stay healthy at the pro level, Wembanyama won't be better than Ingram for a couple years at least... So that's kind of a weird lust...

Lamelo is an ideal running mate with Wembanyama or Zion, but I'm not sure Zion and Wembanyama fit together any better than Zion/Ingram...


Wembenyama isn't going to be playing on the wing in the NBA. Him Zion and Ingram can all play together.


They can all play positions that on paper, fit together... But the reality is, there aren't enough balls to go around. Zion, Ingram and eventually Wemby, all think of themselves as superstars in the league, along with Lamelo... It's actually a huge deal that Ingram and Zion are coexisting as well as they are right now... No way adding Wemby makes that work better.
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Post#314 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:13 pm

Kilroy wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
Kilroy wrote:
If he can stay healthy at the pro level, Wembanyama won't be better than Ingram for a couple years at least... So that's kind of a weird lust...

Lamelo is an ideal running mate with Wembanyama or Zion, but I'm not sure Zion and Wembanyama fit together any better than Zion/Ingram...


Wembenyama isn't going to be playing on the wing in the NBA. Him Zion and Ingram can all play together.


They can all play positions that on paper, fit together... But the reality is, there aren't enough balls to go around. Zion, Ingram and eventually Wemby, all think of themselves as superstars in the league, along with Lamelo... It's actually a huge deal that Ingram and Zion are coexisting as well as they are right now... No way adding Wemby makes that work better.


So if the Pelicans get the number 1 pick what would you advise them do.
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Post#315 » by Johnny Firpo » Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:13 pm

JN61 wrote:Don't get the hype for this guy. I'm sure he is pretty ok player in NBA but I don't think he is all that what people here and elsewhere tout him to be.


I get it if you feel he won't stay healthy, that's a fair concern. But not understanding why his game/physical gifts warrant the ridiculous hype, is something I cannot wrap my mind around.
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Post#316 » by Kilroy » Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:09 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:
Kilroy wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
Wembenyama isn't going to be playing on the wing in the NBA. Him Zion and Ingram can all play together.


They can all play positions that on paper, fit together... But the reality is, there aren't enough balls to go around. Zion, Ingram and eventually Wemby, all think of themselves as superstars in the league, along with Lamelo... It's actually a huge deal that Ingram and Zion are coexisting as well as they are right now... No way adding Wemby makes that work better.


So if the Pelicans get the number 1 pick what would you advise them do.


If you get the #1 pick you pick Wemby every time... That's a no brainer (if he doesn't get injured or catch a case) no matter what team you are...

If you're the pels, I think you would then have to decide who you want to have him run with, Zion or Ingram, and look for a trade for the other... An Ingram/Wemby pairing would be pretty interesting also... And Ingram could guide him on being a thin framed guy in the NBA, and what you have to do to keep your body right... Zion is the complete other end of the spectrum...
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Post#317 » by Hero » Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:27 pm

Is he actually the best prospect ever or the best prospect since LeBron.

To me there is a pretty clear difference there.
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Post#318 » by tmorgan » Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:53 pm

Hero wrote:Is he actually the best prospect ever or the best prospect since LeBron.

To me there is a pretty clear difference there.



The potential is “ever”.

The reality, coupled with the risk, is certainty less. LeBron’s feel for the game as a teenager was unreal, as was his athletic ability. I’m not comfortable calling VW a better prospect than James, but he’s certainly a unique prospect.
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Post#319 » by D.Brasco » Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:12 am

Johnny Firpo wrote:
JN61 wrote:Don't get the hype for this guy. I'm sure he is pretty ok player in NBA but I don't think he is all that what people here and elsewhere tout him to be.


I get it if you feel he won't stay healthy, that's a fair concern. But not understanding why his game/physical gifts warrant the ridiculous hype, is something I cannot wrap my mind around.


That's my thought the hype is warranted but I just can't see him being healthy long term at his height. It's almost like it's too good to be true, he's still human there are certain trade offs the human body has to make. I want to be proven wrong because it would be something we've never really seen before.
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Post#320 » by LordCovington33 » Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:16 am

D.Brasco wrote:
Johnny Firpo wrote:
JN61 wrote:Don't get the hype for this guy. I'm sure he is pretty ok player in NBA but I don't think he is all that what people here and elsewhere tout him to be.


I get it if you feel he won't stay healthy, that's a fair concern. But not understanding why his game/physical gifts warrant the ridiculous hype, is something I cannot wrap my mind around.


That's my thought the hype is warranted but I just can't see him being healthy long term at his height. It's almost like it's too good to be true, he's still human there are certain trade offs the human body has to make. I want to be proven wrong because it would be something we've never really seen before.


Will he be playing center or PF? If center, he’s going to have a hard time positioning in the post against much stronger players like Embiid.

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