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Post#201 » by Hal14 » Fri Nov 11, 2022 3:26 pm

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Interesting. The first time Grant was an excellent roll man. The second time Hauser's man double Grant on the roll, and Hauser got a wide-open 3.

This all succeeded because the guy covering Grant post-switch was pretty useless, whereas all the Celtics did their jobs well.

In particular, Grant is a strong pick-setter, and evidently has the stamina to move as needed at both ends of the floor. So if he can score well on the roll (and perhaps also pop), he'll be quite the problem for defenders.

Yeah. Grant does so many little things well, very smart, versatile player. Gotta resign him this offseason.
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Re: Joe Mazzulla Thread – Celtics Interim Head Coach (2022-23) 

Post#202 » by ballup » Fri Nov 11, 2022 4:03 pm

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Interesting. The first time Grant was an excellent roll man. The second time Hauser's man double Grant on the roll, and Hauser got a wide-open 3.

This all succeeded because the guy covering Grant post-switch was pretty useless, whereas all the Celtics did their jobs well.

In particular, Grant is a strong pick-setter, and evidently has the stamina to move as needed at both ends of the floor. So if he can score well on the roll (and perhaps also pop), he'll be quite the problem for defenders.
Sets these days are more initial actions rather than to get a specific player open. While the defenders didn't do a good job, these are great reads by Grant to decide whether to roll or rescreen based on the defense's reactions.

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Re: Joe Mazzulla Thread – Celtics Interim Head Coach (2022-23) 

Post#203 » by Fencer reregistered » Fri Nov 11, 2022 4:09 pm

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Interesting. The first time Grant was an excellent roll man. The second time Hauser's man double Grant on the roll, and Hauser got a wide-open 3.

This all succeeded because the guy covering Grant post-switch was pretty useless, whereas all the Celtics did their jobs well.

In particular, Grant is a strong pick-setter, and evidently has the stamina to move as needed at both ends of the floor. So if he can score well on the roll (and perhaps also pop), he'll be quite the problem for defenders.
Sets these days are more initial actions rather than to get a specific player open. While the defenders didn't do a good job, these are great reads by Grant to decide whether to roll or rescreen based on the defense's reactions.

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I don't disagree.

But everything's easier when the guy defending you kind of stands still looking dazed.

So maybe we should revert to the original point, and praise Joe for designing a play that bedazzled an opponent. :)
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Re: Joe Mazzulla Thread – Celtics Interim Head Coach (2022-23) 

Post#204 » by ballup » Fri Nov 11, 2022 5:46 pm

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Interesting. The first time Grant was an excellent roll man. The second time Hauser's man double Grant on the roll, and Hauser got a wide-open 3.

This all succeeded because the guy covering Grant post-switch was pretty useless, whereas all the Celtics did their jobs well.

In particular, Grant is a strong pick-setter, and evidently has the stamina to move as needed at both ends of the floor. So if he can score well on the roll (and perhaps also pop), he'll be quite the problem for defenders.
Sets these days are more initial actions rather than to get a specific player open. While the defenders didn't do a good job, these are great reads by Grant to decide whether to roll or rescreen based on the defense's reactions.

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I don't disagree.

But everything's easier when the guy defending you kind of stands still looking dazed.

So maybe we should revert to the original point, and praise Joe for designing a play that bedazzled an opponent. :)

Joe is doing a great job of incorporating plays with multiple sequences of movements. I just wanted to applaud Grant for his decision making despite not being a strong roller. Some teams run simplified PnR and those can get predictable and easily countered if you don't have specialized rim runners. Good on Joe to not just incorporate Ime's schemes, but to implement his own.


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Re: Joe Mazzulla Thread – Celtics Interim Head Coach (2022-23) 

Post#205 » by Fencer reregistered » Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:05 pm

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I don't disagree.

But everything's easier when the guy defending you kind of stands still looking dazed.

So maybe we should revert to the original point, and praise Joe for designing a play that bedazzled an opponent. :)

Joe is doing a great job of incorporating plays with multiple sequences of movements. I just wanted to applaud Grant for his decision making despite not being a strong roller. Some teams run simplified PnR and those can get predictable and easily countered if you don't have specialized rim runners. Good on Joe to not just incorporate Ime's schemes, but to implement his own.


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But Grant also seems to have worked on those skills a lot. Whether he attacks a closeout or rolls, his shot-making is pretty much the same right now.
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Re: Joe Mazzulla Thread – Celtics Interim Head Coach (2022-23) 

Post#206 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:16 pm

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This is his best utility. I will kiss Joe in his gum-chewing mouth if he can get JB to fully buy into this role. We have four high IQ ballhandlers on the team and a couple of good passing big men to get him the ball.
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Post#207 » by Parliament10 » Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:09 am

I think that Joe Mazzulla needs to be named the Regular Head Coach. He's doing a Great job.
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Post#208 » by 31to6 » Sat Nov 12, 2022 2:26 am

Parliament10 wrote:I think that Joe Mazzulla needs to be named the Regular Head Coach. He's doing a Great job.
We just have to send Ime Udoka somewhere.


no rush really, right? Play the season out -- no need to do anything until spring I'd imagine -- but the early returns are obviously promising. He's got this team playing the 'right' way and gaining steam!
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Post#209 » by BostonCouchGM » Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:32 am

we're without a doubt a better coached team under Mazzula. Ball movement is improved. We scheme multiple guys wide open for three in a variety of sets. When we're hitting on all cylinders it's reminiscent of 80s Celtics. We lucked out folks. I'm more excited about him than either Udoka or Brad tbh.
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Post#211 » by zoyathedestroya » Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:12 pm

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I guess it's on the players to improve their conditioning. Also hoping for more blowouts once we get Timelord back.
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Post#212 » by BK_2020 » Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:24 pm

More we see Mazzulla open up the offense, I begin to wonder if we didn't lose the finals in part because Ime went super conservative all of a sudden, scrapping what's been working and going to Tatum ISO every possession.
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Post#213 » by Shak_Celts » Tue Nov 15, 2022 4:49 am

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I guess it's on the players to improve their conditioning. Also hoping for more blowouts once we get Timelord back.

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Post#214 » by _Und3r][D4wg_ » Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:56 am

_Und3r][D4wg_ wrote:...Might be an unpopular opinion, but I think the bench guys (LK, NV, BG, PP, even JJ) should be fed more minutes on most nights to help get them into rhythm and fully integrated into team chemistry.

Regularly riding the starters in the mid-30-to-40+ mins just to ensure early season wins seems such a rookie coach thing to do... Wear-and-tear slowly adds up over time and increases injury/exhaustion probability to the starters later at a stretch when every W becomes more crucial.

If we want the end-of-bench guys to serve as injury insurance, then they have to be prepped to be effective in that contingency role... 6 mins of garbage time every 3 or 4 games just isn't going to cut it. It's not necessarily because those dudes are absolutely unplayable, but the coach may just be too risk-averse over growing pains (i.e., early season losses) and focused only on winning the immediate game.

A more rationalized PT distribution should lessen late season/post-season injury/exhaustion probability to the starters. Think of it as gradually collecting on your insurance (or increasing it's return value) before the adverse event actually strikes. And when the injury bug does bite later, then there's already much greater value (contribution) to collect from the insurance guys even during the playoffs.

Apologies for quoting a part of what I said in another thread.

Obviously Coach Joe feels differently... I just hope the team doesn't get hit with worst case scenarios in terms of injuries and star players running out of steam later in the season/post-season to the detriment of our campaign for #18.
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Post#215 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:29 am

Better to ride guys a little harder at the beginning of the season to rack up wins so you can rest them before the playoffs than the other way around.

Besides the Jays that are at 37 minutes per night which is the upper limit for a star player. You have Smart and Horford at 32 minutes per game and everybody else below 30. Ideally Horford would be a little lower but I bet that comes down when Timelord comes back and also he gets entire nights off (he has fewer total minutes than Derrick White for instance).

It's really just Brown and Tatum that have an abnormally large workload but if you take out the extra ten minutes they played in overtime this year they would be at 36 minutes per game which is like one more minute than most stars. If the biggest knock on the head cooach is that the fans want him to micromanage the rotation to find a minute per game less for his stars he must be really good.
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Post#216 » by Hal14 » Tue Nov 15, 2022 2:39 pm

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Love this guy. And I love self deprecation humor.

This line is up there with his "Brad had a concussion when he said I was the right man for the job" one.

Wouldn't shock me if he's a Curb Your Enthusiasm Fan :)
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Post#217 » by GoCeltics123 » Tue Nov 15, 2022 3:41 pm

This team has really bought in to him it seems like
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Post#218 » by jinx8402 » Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:07 pm

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:Better to ride guys a little harder at the beginning of the season to rack up wins so you can rest them before the playoffs than the other way around.

Besides the Jays that are at 37 minutes per night which is the upper limit for a star player. You have Smart and Horford at 32 minutes per game and everybody else below 30. Ideally Horford would be a little lower but I bet that comes down when Timelord comes back and also he gets entire nights off (he has fewer total minutes than Derrick White for instance).

It's really just Brown and Tatum that have an abnormally large workload but if you take out the extra ten minutes they played in overtime this year they would be at 36 minutes per game which is like one more minute than most stars. If the biggest knock on the head cooach is that the fans want him to micromanage the rotation to find a minute per game less for his stars he must be really good.


Also, keep in mind with Horford that he is getting the - OUT (stiff back, aka old man) status on B2B and I am certain it will stay like that throughout the regular season. That should help reduce the wear and tear on him from playing low 30s on the other nights.
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Post#219 » by zoyathedestroya » Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:50 pm

We need a veteran coach with NBA experience.
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Post#220 » by zoyathedestroya » Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:27 pm

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