No matter how long you ride a hobbyhorse, you still don't get anywhere.
Looking at you....,who are you that doesnt even have a BB comment ,lame.
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No matter how long you ride a hobbyhorse, you still don't get anywhere.
prime1time wrote:What is Rui's role on the team? Instead of focusing on who he's playing with focus on role.
tleikheen wrote:No matter how long you ride a hobbyhorse, you still don't get anywhere.
Looking at you....,who are you that doesnt even have a BB comment ,lame.
payitforward wrote:prime1time wrote:What is Rui's role on the team? Instead of focusing on who he's playing with focus on role.
Maybe we can start by focusing on what he does & the results of what he does?
8 defensive boards in 33 minutes -- that's good.
2 offensive boards in 33 minutes -- that's good.
4 assists in 33 minutes -- that's good.
13 shots resulting in 10 points -- that's not good, it's bad.
No trips to the line in 33 minutes -- that's bad too.
I don't need to know who Rui is playing with to know that it's good if he gets 10 rebounds in 33 minutes.
I don't need to know who Rui is playing with to know that it's good if he gets 4 assists in 33 minutes.
I also don't need to know Rui's "role" to know that those things are good.
Similarly, I don't need to know either who he's playing with or what his role is to know that making only 5 of 13 FGAs while never getting to the line is bad.
&, when I look at all the things Rui has done in those 33 minutes overall, I don't need to know his role or who he played with to know whether, overall, Rui had a good outing.
Against Philly, KP posted 30 points on 13 FGAs & 11 FTAs. I need no other information to know that KP scored extremely well that night. I don't need to know his role to know that 11-11 at the line is good.
Frichuela wrote:tleikheen wrote:trading Rui is making the Wiz into a minor league team ,our young talent blooming with smart teams while we get older
Not necessarily, it depends what we get for Rui. For example, I'd trade Rui for Usman Garuba in a heart bit and never think twice. Garuba is a defensive monster with a high basketball IQ. He would fit like a glove with a stretch 5 such as Porzingis. Obviously, you would think Houston has a better front office than us...but maybe there is a small chance they get blinded by the $$$$ marketing appeal of Rui?
tleikheen wrote:It does matter who you play with ...all the time,ignorant to think otherwise. I see sh*t defense played by Morris ,Beal,Kuz ,and Barton that get unsaid and then all blame goes to Rui. Since the beginning of training camp his team mates have raved about him and he has delivered in his role and his bullying his way to baskets gets the opposing teams attn. The Wiz have no one else on the roster like him. The changing of the team is starting as the roll out of KP ,Beal ,Kuz ,Rui, and Deni wont be the 1st time we see them play as the Wiz best lineup.
Dat2U wrote:tleikheen wrote:It does matter who you play with ...all the time,ignorant to think otherwise. I see sh*t defense played by Morris ,Beal,Kuz ,and Barton that get unsaid and then all blame goes to Rui. Since the beginning of training camp his team mates have raved about him and he has delivered in his role and his bullying his way to baskets gets the opposing teams attn. The Wiz have no one else on the roster like him. The changing of the team is starting as the roll out of KP ,Beal ,Kuz ,Rui, and Deni wont be the 1st time we see them play as the Wiz best lineup.
KP & Deni are the only ones that will give a decent effort defensively. Beal & Kuz aren't terrible but generally their marginal at best and their effort consistently wains. Morris & Rui are probably the worst offenders. Morris simply can't defend the position and Rui has the spacial awareness of a Rhino. Rui can try hard all he wants, there are just clear limitations with how he sees the floor.
dckingsfan wrote:Frichuela wrote:tleikheen wrote:trading Rui is making the Wiz into a minor league team ,our young talent blooming with smart teams while we get older
Not necessarily, it depends what we get for Rui. For example, I'd trade Rui for Usman Garuba in a heart bit and never think twice. Garuba is a defensive monster with a high basketball IQ. He would fit like a glove with a stretch 5 such as Porzingis. Obviously, you would think Houston has a better front office than us...but maybe there is a small chance they get blinded by the $$$$ marketing appeal of Rui?
This. I wouldn't think that Houston would give up Garuba unless assets came along with the trade. But he was one of my favorites in that draft.
CobraCommander wrote:Reading this thread....have you guys given up on Rui?
CobraCommander wrote:This Rui wasn’t bad…right
prime1time wrote:Hachimura's last 3 games...18 ppg on 57.8% from the field. And tonight his on/off was a team-high +20. Crazy how many people on this board think he's not even an NBA caliber talent lol.
I don't want to pee in anyone's Cheerios. I'm just trying my best to be objective. As I said in another thread earlier, Rui is no longer a young player. He is 24 years old and getting real close to WYSIWYG territory. I don't think we can project significant improvement going forward,
nate33 wrote:prime1time wrote:Hachimura's last 3 games...18 ppg on 57.8% from the field. And tonight his on/off was a team-high +20. Crazy how many people on this board think he's not even an NBA caliber talent lol.
Rui is absolutely an NBA caliber talent. He'll definitely stick around for a 2nd contract and probably play 8-10 years in this league. The question is, is he anything more than a replaceable guy? Is he better than a less-than-MLE free agent available in any given summer? So far, I'd say the answer to that is no.
Take Derrick Jones Jr., for instance. He is a random journeyman forward who is always available in free agency and usually plays well enough to help out the depth of a decent team. He is just 1 year older than Rui. Chicago signed him as an unrestricted free agent this summer for $3.2M. Compare his production this season to Rui's: https://stathead.com/tiny/hUeVg Other guys like Sam Hauser and Eddie House Jr. were also available as UFA's, and have put up comparable numbers to Rui. And if we were a contending team, there would be even better veteran free agents available for the MLE, guys like Nicholas Batum, Otto Porter or Kyle Anderson.
I don't want to pee in anyone's Cheerios. I'm just trying my best to be objective. As I said in another thread earlier, Rui is no longer a young player. He is 24 years old and getting real close to WYSIWYG territory. I don't think we can project significant improvement going forward, unless it happens real soon. On the season, Rui is actually underperforming his production from last year. He needs to be better than last year for him to be more than an 8th man on a good team. He has played quite a bit better in the last 3 games. Let's hope that continues.