Nets suspend Kyrie Irving at least five games without pay

[gigantes]

On another note.... when is Joe Tsai and the NBA going to denounce China for its antisemitism and genocide and overall crimes against humanity? Or is it cool like China gives them money?

Tsai is already being exposed by the same cats who criticized Kyrie. They know the punishment is extremely harsh and they are trying to emasculate him, hence his demands are getting denounced.

The NBA has had oodles of time to denounce the CCP's various atrocities and genocide, but China's revenue evidently greases so many NBA palms that it's just not going to happen. That's an oversimplification of course, but you get the idea.

Tsai's a bit different in that he's pretty close (or straight-up "is") under the thumb of the CCP. He seems like an upstanding guy to me on the whole, but his leash is incredibly short when it comes to critiquing the CCP. Just look at what happened to his Alibaba cofounder Jack Ma for example.

There's nothing much to 'expose' about Tsai. He's in the same boat as most Chinese Han people. If you've been reading the news during the late dictator Xi period, you'd know that China has been incredibly aggressive around the world in espionage, buying up politicians and even university depts, threatening Chinese peoples' families for speaking out against the CCP and so forth. They've even established 'police departments' in other nations that will detain Chinese 'troublemakers,' and in some cases probably disappear them or smuggle them back to the mainland.

Sh-t is nuts, and it's been in major news for years now..

[Hello Brooklyn]

Looks like the Kyrie situation is coming to a pass.

I say bring him back and see if it can work with Vaughn.

This is his last chance though. One more screw up and we should waive him. Immediately.

[NetsWorld]

Looks like the Kyrie situation is coming to a pass.

I say bring him back and see if it can work with Vaughn.

This is his last chance though. One more screw up and we should waive him. Immediately.

No to waiving! We can wait til January, LA wants Kyrie. Let’s see if Westbrook continues to perform well and if AD can stay relatively healthy. We can probably get those two for Kyrie and a pick plus Mills.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Looks like the Kyrie situation is coming to a pass.

I say bring him back and see if it can work with Vaughn.

This is his last chance though. One more screw up and we should waive him. Immediately.

No to waiving! We can wait til January, LA wants Kyrie. Let’s see if Westbrook continues to perform well and if AD can stay relatively healthy. We can probably get those two for Kyrie and a pick plus Mills.

We are NOT getting both for Kyrie. No shot at all.

I would do AD for Kyrie straight up if possible. Like I would do that yesterday.

[gigantes]

Looks like the Kyrie situation is coming to a pass.

I say bring him back and see if it can work with Vaughn.

This is his last chance though. One more screw up and we should waive him. Immediately.

No to waiving! We can wait til January, LA wants Kyrie. Let’s see if Westbrook continues to perform well and if AD can stay relatively healthy. We can probably get those two for Kyrie and a pick plus Mills.

We are NOT getting both for Kyrie. No shot at all.

I would do AD for Kyrie straight up if possible. Like I would do that yesterday.

Oh man, let me have some of what you guys are smoking!

LA probably wants to trade WB and one of their famous firsts for Kyrie and Harris, assuming they want to touch KI in the first place.

A reasonable Nets counteroffer would probably be Kyrie, Mills and Sharpe (and maybe a smidge more to make the numbers work) for WB plus two firsts. Then the bargaining would proceed from there.

Trading AD for nothing but Kyrie would be pointless, even with the Lakers' struggles. It would be like waving the white flag on the AD-LeBron pairing, when their goal here is to try to extract one or two more good runs from the duo.

[NetsWorld]

No to waiving! We can wait til January, LA wants Kyrie. Let’s see if Westbrook continues to perform well and if AD can stay relatively healthy. We can probably get those two for Kyrie and a pick plus Mills.

We are NOT getting both for Kyrie. No shot at all.

I would do AD for Kyrie straight up if possible. Like I would do that yesterday.

Oh man, let me have some of what you guys are smoking!

LA probably wants to trade WB and one of their famous firsts for Kyrie and Harris, assuming they want to touch KI in the first place.

A reasonable Nets counteroffer would probably be Kyrie, Mills and Sharpe (and maybe a smidge more to make the numbers work) for WB plus two firsts. Then the bargaining would proceed from there.

Trading AD for nothing but Kyrie would be pointless, even with the Lakers' struggles. It would be like waving the white flag on the AD-LeBron pairing, when their goal here is to try to extract one or two more good runs from the duo.

Nets won’t do that trade. LA is desperate and it’s confirmed they still have interest in Kyrie. There’s a reason AD’s name has been floating around in trade rumors. Come February, if AD plays a good amount of games, I predict it may happen; It’s known LeBron still wants Kyrie. The Lakers are gonna have a fire sale soon.

[JoseRizal]

I know it's a small sample size. But the starting line-up of Sumner, Harris, O'Neale, Durant & Claxton has an offensive rating of 121, and a defensive rating of 87!

While, the Irving, Simmons, O'Neale, Durant & Claxton line-up is dead last in offensive and net rating.

If ever Kyrie does come back, I think it's best that he comes off the bench along with Simmons. I just hope he's OK with that, as I really think he'll be more valuable in sustaining the offense as KD is sitting down while not disrupting the chemistry that was slowly built while he's away.

[OneZilion]

This is insane to people think that Sumner is better than KI?!

Leet me use some of that same as you think AD for KI would Lakers do…

First I think there is pretty big chance for Irving to stay here like KD-s Robin event after this season. He was playing absolutly great basketball in 2020-2021 and is capable of it if he focus on it.

Problem with him is just his head. Even defence he can play very well if he wants.

I think when he is back and we get TJ team will be really good… Vaughn is the biggest reason for this but also I am thinking maybe players was enough of Nash and wanted that change happen…

Remember just players meeting after first Indi game and remember KI changing play calls from Nash, that is too obvious. Kd is too kind guy and all time great player, but not person that would do dirty stuff like not listenijg coach but his buddy Irving for sure is…

This team has talent. It just needed motivation and good coaching. Only problem are now Irving head and Ben Simmons game. Claxton is becoming very good Center in this league, we have ton of shooting what is one of the most important things in todays game, we have few very capable defenders now

And in the end if is motivated GodLord we still have one of the best players on planet in Kd. One bad series against Boston cant erase that before injury last sesson KD was like most think was best NBA player thst is not too far away from now

[Hello Brooklyn]

No to waiving! We can wait til January, LA wants Kyrie. Let’s see if Westbrook continues to perform well and if AD can stay relatively healthy. We can probably get those two for Kyrie and a pick plus Mills.

We are NOT getting both for Kyrie. No shot at all.

I would do AD for Kyrie straight up if possible. Like I would do that yesterday.

Oh man, let me have some of what you guys are smoking!

LA probably wants to trade WB and one of their famous firsts for Kyrie and Harris, assuming they want to touch KI in the first place.

A reasonable Nets counteroffer would probably be Kyrie, Mills and Sharpe (and maybe a smidge more to make the numbers work) for WB plus two firsts. Then the bargaining would proceed from there.

Trading AD for nothing but Kyrie would be pointless, even with the Lakers' struggles. It would be like waving the white flag on the AD-LeBron pairing, when their goal here is to try to extract one or two more good runs from the duo.

I don't think its on the table. Im just saying I would do it.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I know it's a small sample size. But the starting line-up of Sumner, Harris, O'Neale, Durant & Claxton has an offensive rating of 121, and a defensive rating of 87!

While, the Irving, Simmons, O'Neale, Durant & Claxton line-up is dead last in offensive and net rating.

If ever Kyrie does come back, I think it's best that he comes off the bench along with Simmons. I just hope he's OK with that, as I really think he'll be more valuable in sustaining the offense as KD is sitting down while not disrupting the chemistry that was slowly built while he's away.

That is because of Nash. Not Kyrie.

[Papi_swav]

I know it's a small sample size. But the starting line-up of Sumner, Harris, O'Neale, Durant & Claxton has an offensive rating of 121, and a defensive rating of 87!

While, the Irving, Simmons, O'Neale, Durant & Claxton line-up is dead last in offensive and net rating.

If ever Kyrie does come back, I think it's best that he comes off the bench along with Simmons. I just hope he's OK with that, as I really think he'll be more valuable in sustaining the offense as KD is sitting down while not disrupting the chemistry that was slowly built while he's away.

Na no way kyrie comes off the bench, he just needs to buy in and realize it's KDs team. He needs to play team defense and let the offense run thru KD, he needs to stop that dribble dribble dribble tough fadeaway shot with 8 seconds left in shot clock but instead give the ball up early and let the offense run so other guys and role players feel more involved. This is why the other guys have been playing great lately and with so much more energy. Guys just standing around and watching kyrie dance is not a good recipe for winning basketball. Kyrie needs to get the team more involved and he has to do more off the ball as well.

Simmons definitely has to come off the bench for now, until he get his mojo back at least. With Kyrie back in the lineup, our bench seems to be pretty solid with the way Sumner and Cam has been playing, and Warren should help with that as well. Kyrie, Oneal, KD and Claxton is pretty much the guarantee staring lineup, at the 2 guard we should go by committee. Depending on what team we play against, we should start Harris on some nights and maybe Sumner or Duke on other nights when we need guard defense. We are definitely better than our record shows, I just think we need to adjust and maybe get another defender.

[GTR11]

This is insane to people think that Sumner is better than KI?!

Leet me use some of that same as you think AD for KI would Lakers do…

First I think there is pretty big chance for Irving to stay here like KD-s Robin event after this season. He was playing absolutly great basketball in 2020-2021 and is capable of it if he focus on it.

Problem with him is just his head. Even defence he can play very well if he wants.

I think when he is back and we get TJ team will be really good… Vaughn is the biggest reason for this but also I am thinking maybe players was enough of Nash and wanted that change happen…

Remember just players meeting after first Indi game and remember KI changing play calls from Nash, that is too obvious. Kd is too kind guy and all time great player, but not person that would do dirty stuff like not listenijg coach but his buddy Irving for sure is…

This team has talent. It just needed motivation and good coaching. Only problem are now Irving head and Ben Simmons game. Claxton is becoming very good Center in this league, we have ton of shooting what is one of the most important things in todays game, we have few very capable defenders now

And in the end if is motivated GodLord we still have one of the best players on planet in Kd. One bad series against Boston cant erase that before injury last sesson KD was like most think was best NBA player thst is not too far away from now

Whether most of us Nets fans like it or not, Kyrie will be resigned by Marks/Tsai. They showed no indication of not doing so.

Kyrie wants to resign here no matter if KD stays or goes.

That's why it was so important to sign Ime. Dude for whatever happened in Saltic land is a strong voice who demands respect. Snyder and Borega is very questionable hires even though they better X and O guys. I got big doubts them handling KD and Kyrie. Marks/Tsai pus*** out here, they needed to hire Ime no matter what Silver said. Tsai has voice that he rarely uses.

[GTR11]

I know it's a small sample size. But the starting line-up of Sumner, Harris, O'Neale, Durant & Claxton has an offensive rating of 121, and a defensive rating of 87!

While, the Irving, Simmons, O'Neale, Durant & Claxton line-up is dead last in offensive and net rating.

If ever Kyrie does come back, I think it's best that he comes off the bench along with Simmons. I just hope he's OK with that, as I really think he'll be more valuable in sustaining the offense as KD is sitting down while not disrupting the chemistry that was slowly built while he's away.

Na no way kyrie comes off the bench, he just needs to buy in and realize it's KDs team. He needs to play team defense and let the offense run thru KD, he needs to stop that dribble dribble dribble tough fadeaway shot with 8 seconds left in shot clock but instead give the ball up early and let the offense run so other guys and role players feel more involved. This is why the other guys have been playing great lately and with so much more energy. Guys just standing around and watching kyrie dance is not a good recipe for winning basketball. Kyrie needs to get the team more involved and he has to do more off the ball as well.

Simmons definitely has to come off the bench for now, until he get his mojo back at least. With Kyrie back in the lineup, our bench seems to be pretty solid with the way Sumner and Cam has been playing, and Warren should help with that as well. Kyrie, Oneal, KD and Claxton is pretty much the guarantee staring lineup, at the 2 guard we should go by committee. Depending on what team we play against, we should start Harris on some nights and maybe Sumner or Duke on other nights when we need guard defense. We are definitely better than our record shows, I just think we need to adjust and maybe get another defender.

I think it's given that JV will be running Kyrie-Joe-Royce-KD-Nic line up once Kyrie gets back. They will sell Ben 6th man and future franchise till he gets 100%. JV will inspire him to run 2nd unit and promise he'll finish games when both parties feel he's ready. Second unit of Ben-Seth-Sumner-Yuta is solid if not best one out there.

[MGrand15]

No to waiving! We can wait til January, LA wants Kyrie. Let’s see if Westbrook continues to perform well and if AD can stay relatively healthy. We can probably get those two for Kyrie and a pick plus Mills.

We are NOT getting both for Kyrie. No shot at all.

I would do AD for Kyrie straight up if possible. Like I would do that yesterday.

Oh man, let me have some of what you guys are smoking!

LA probably wants to trade WB and one of their famous firsts for Kyrie and Harris, assuming they want to touch KI in the first place.

A reasonable Nets counteroffer would probably be Kyrie, Mills and Sharpe (and maybe a smidge more to make the numbers work) for WB plus two firsts. Then the bargaining would proceed from there.

Trading AD for nothing but Kyrie would be pointless, even with the Lakers' struggles. It would be like waving the white flag on the AD-LeBron pairing, when their goal here is to try to extract one or two more good runs from the duo.

I'm just trying to speak Kyrie for AD into existence.

Maybe LeBron secretly hates him behind the scenes

[gigantes]

We are NOT getting both for Kyrie. No shot at all.

I would do AD for Kyrie straight up if possible. Like I would do that yesterday.

Oh man, let me have some of what you guys are smoking!

LA probably wants to trade WB and one of their famous firsts for Kyrie and Harris, assuming they want to touch KI in the first place.

A reasonable Nets counteroffer would probably be Kyrie, Mills and Sharpe (and maybe a smidge more to make the numbers work) for WB plus two firsts. Then the bargaining would proceed from there.

Trading AD for nothing but Kyrie would be pointless, even with the Lakers' struggles. It would be like waving the white flag on the AD-LeBron pairing, when their goal here is to try to extract one or two more good runs from the duo.

I'm just trying to speak Kyrie for AD into existence.

Maybe LeBron secretly hates him behind the scenes

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[NetsWorld]

What I realized is we are going through this year what the Celtics did last year, before they turned it around: they had lots of turmoil in the locker room and played .500 basketball until they shifted after the New Year

[ChuckS]

Even if he wins a chip with us he is 100% gone after this season.
Enough is enough.

I agree that he's gone and that enough is enough, but the chip part is from outer space. There is a better chance that Kyrie sprouts wings and flies to the end of the flat earth than there is that this team wins a title, especially with Kyrie in the lineup.

Kyrie doesn't help teams win. He destroys them from within.

You may have a good reason for that conclusion. I cannot remember if the Boston outrage was just from fans and media or his teammates there.

What I have seen from his teammates here, and from what LeBron, who actually did win a championship with him, has said, would seem to belie such a contention.

I originally thought that his history, though riddled with weirdness, showed him to actually be benevolent, and I doubted the allegations of antisemitism. I could be wrong, but I thought that even in his abortive initial interview, he claimed he was a person of love not hate. I feel less naive now that Joe Tsai and particularly Adam Silver, have announced their beliefs that he is not an anti-Semite. I wonder if his discussion with Silver qualifies as one of the conditions for return.

Speaking of those conditions and the half a million dollar mandate, I cannot imagine a judge or other arbitrator sustaining them if appealed. And how can the team or league possibly insist on remedial sensitivity or antisemitism training if they both have publicly announced that they do not believe he is antisemitic? The five game suspension without pay could even be thrown out, but I, personally, think it is a reasonable compromise for an unwise,careless, action. I guess I disagree with the masses and believe this punishment is demeaning, and patently ludicrous.

[Stannis]

Surprised the are so many supporting this absurd list that includes re-education. Never seen anything like this in pro-sports, even with players have done much worse.

Glad to see some players and the NBA player's union having Kyrie's back.

Tsai is a pathetic owner and this could have all been avoided if he decided to handle this behind closed doors. This is some weird power move to try and humiliate Kyrie. Tsai couldn't do it with the vaccine fiasco, but now he found a reason.

Nobody in the United States of America should allow a man who profits off slave labor to preach any form of social justice.

This reminds when white America forced Tiger Woods to issue that fake apology after he cheated on his wife. People felt they were entitled for an apology for some reason... I just don't get why so many are deadset on forcing an apology.

In Kryie's case, it's just going to be an empty apology. Why do so many people want this? I guess it just makes some people feel strong to strong-arm someone into making one.

[Papi_swav]

I don't think Kyrie is coming back, Tsai is doing way too much and abusing his power. But I bet he won't talk about what they're doing in China like a hypocrite , someone should call him out.

[Stannis]

I don't think Kyrie is coming back, Tsai is doing way too much and abusing his power. But I bet he won't talk about what they're doing in China like a hypocrite , someone should call him out.

Yeah, this is getting worse if you ask me. Kyrie already apologized. And he met with Adam Silver. Yet, it's still not enough. Tsai is abusing his powers as an NBA owner here. And I think he's just wanting revenge for Kyrie's previous stuff where Tsai felt powerless.

NBA should really be investigating Tsai here because he's being very unreasonable.

https://nypost.com/2022/11/12/kyrie-irving-must-show-people-that-hes-sorry-before-nets-return/

“He still has work to do,” Nets owner Joe Tsai told The Post on Saturday.

Translation... Kyrie has to show the world who is master is.

I Stand with Kyrie