Nets suspend Kyrie Irving at least five games without pay

[TheNetsFan]

I don't think Kyrie is coming back, Tsai is doing way too much and abusing his power. But I bet he won't talk about what they're doing in China like a hypocrite , someone should call him out.

Yeah, this is getting worse if you ask me. Kyrie already apologized. And he met with Adam Silver. Yet, it's still not enough. Tsai is abusing his powers as an NBA owner here. And I think he's just wanting revenge for Kyrie's previous stuff where Tsai felt powerless.

NBA should really be investigating Tsai here because he's being very unreasonable.

https://nypost.com/2022/11/12/kyrie-irving-must-show-people-that-hes-sorry-before-nets-return/

“He still has work to do,” Nets owner Joe Tsai told The Post on Saturday.

Translation... Kyrie has to show the world who is master is.

I Stand with Kyrie

NBA should investigate? Silver has every bit the hand in this that Tsai does. Tsai needs to do what's best for the Nets brand. That's what suffers if Kyrie returns after what people feel is still a half @ssed apology.

Isola supposedly said earlier that Kyrie's next game might be in a different uniform. He's plugged in and may know something.

[MrDollarBills]

Surprised the are so many supporting this absurd list that includes re-education. Never seen anything like this in pro-sports, even with players have done much worse.

Glad to see some players and the NBA player's union having Kyrie's back.

Tsai is a pathetic owner and this could have all been avoided if he decided to handle this behind closed doors. This is some weird power move to try and humiliate Kyrie. Tsai couldn't do it with the vaccine fiasco, but now he found a reason.

Nobody in the United States of America should allow a man who profits off slave labor to preach any form of social justice.

This reminds when white America forced Tiger Woods to issue that fake apology after he cheated on his wife. People felt they were entitled for an apology for some reason... I just don't get why so many are deadset on forcing an apology.

In Kryie's case, it's just going to be an empty apology. Why do so many people want this? I guess it just makes some people feel strong to strong-arm someone into making one.

Joe Tsai sucks. I can't defend him.

That being said, I could care less about the to do list. Kyrie brought that on himself and frankly, I want him gone. He's a complete cancer and the team clearly is in a much better space without him.

This is the second year in a row he's been banished from the team. Enough is enough. He needs to go

[MrDollarBills]

I don't think Kyrie is coming back, Tsai is doing way too much and abusing his power. But I bet he won't talk about what they're doing in China like a hypocrite , someone should call him out.

Yeah, this is getting worse if you ask me. Kyrie already apologized. And he met with Adam Silver. Yet, it's still not enough. Tsai is abusing his powers as an NBA owner here. And I think he's just wanting revenge for Kyrie's previous stuff where Tsai felt powerless.

NBA should really be investigating Tsai here because he's being very unreasonable.

https://nypost.com/2022/11/12/kyrie-irving-must-show-people-that-hes-sorry-before-nets-return/

“He still has work to do,” Nets owner Joe Tsai told The Post on Saturday.

Translation... Kyrie has to show the world who is master is.

I Stand with Kyrie

NBA should investigate? Silver has every bit the hand in this that Tsai does. Tsai needs to do what's best for the Nets brand. That's what suffers if Kyrie returns after what people feel is still a half @ssed apology.

Isola supposedly said earlier that Kyrie's next game might be in a different uniform. He's plugged in and may know something.

I hope Isola is right.

And honestly, the notion that Kyrie is some sort of victim here is absurd. He chose to promote that film. He chose to be an ass hole in public about it. Actions have consequences and it's sad that so many ppl treat him like a child

In the real world, Kyrie would be unemployed for everything that he has done over the last two years. I could care less if what the NBA and Nets management is doing seems unfair.

[TheNetsFan]

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[NyCeEvO]

Surprised the are so many supporting this absurd list that includes re-education. Never seen anything like this in pro-sports, even with players have done much worse.

Glad to see some players and the NBA player's union having Kyrie's back.

Tsai is a pathetic owner and this could have all been avoided if he decided to handle this behind closed doors. This is some weird power move to try and humiliate Kyrie. Tsai couldn't do it with the vaccine fiasco, but now he found a reason.

Nobody in the United States of America should allow a man who profits off slave labor to preach any form of social justice.

This reminds when white America forced Tiger Woods to issue that fake apology after he cheated on his wife. People felt they were entitled for an apology for some reason... I just don't get why so many are deadset on forcing an apology.

In Kryie's case, it's just going to be an empty apology. Why do so many people want this? I guess it just makes some people feel strong to strong-arm someone into making one.

IMO, Tsai is most motivated by money, not power. He uses PR to massage potentially negative issues over so the impact to his revenue is affected as little as possible.

Before the league stepped in, Tsai only did the natural PR move of a public reprimand to distance himself and the organization from Kyrie's promotion of the film. Kyrie played the same day of the initial fallout and the day after. The organization even recused him from media time, just so he could keep playing and things could be kept normal.

Once the league got involved, I feel they told Tsai what they felt the punishment should be. Tsai is only "emboldened" to do what he's doing because he was given directives by the league and has their backing.

[Riconet]

Surprised the are so many supporting this absurd list that includes re-education. Never seen anything like this in pro-sports, even with players have done much worse.

Glad to see some players and the NBA player's union having Kyrie's back.

Tsai is a pathetic owner and this could have all been avoided if he decided to handle this behind closed doors. This is some weird power move to try and humiliate Kyrie. Tsai couldn't do it with the vaccine fiasco, but now he found a reason.

Nobody in the United States of America should allow a man who profits off slave labor to preach any form of social justice.

This reminds when white America forced Tiger Woods to issue that fake apology after he cheated on his wife. People felt they were entitled for an apology for some reason... I just don't get why so many are deadset on forcing an apology.

In Kryie's case, it's just going to be an empty apology. Why do so many people want this? I guess it just makes some people feel strong to strong-arm someone into making one.

What a load of crap this is.

"A black man did something wrong and offensive that reflected terribly on his employer, and his non-black boss (who isn't white either, btw) wants Kyrie to demonstrate that he understands he was wrong and that he won't do it again. Must be RACISM."

No.

Kyrie was wrong. He did something bigoted. He then refused, multiple times and in a petulant manner, to admit he was wrong or to apologize. He didn't answer the phone or return calls or texts when his boss attempted to contact him. He then, only after he was suspended, issued a written apology. He didn't give a press conference, take any questions, or face the music in any manner whatsoever.

He's been a freaking disaster for this franchise since he arrived, and it's gotten a bit worse every year. And btw, they've paid him well over $100MM for the privilege of absorbing his BS.

Any boss would be good and fed up with an employee like Kyrie. And it has absolutely nothing to do with racism.

It's a weak and immature move to throw that accusation around in this situation.

Tsai isn't the one demonstrating low character here. It's Kyrie, just like always.

[Riconet]

Separately: I think there is a real possibility that Kyrie could see himself, like he did last year, as some kind of brave crusader for truth and justice, and simply refuse to do anything close to what the Nets want. If that happens, this suspension could easily last half the season, and Isola could easily be right that he's played his last game for the Nets.

Here's hoping.

[Papi_swav]

Surprised the are so many supporting this absurd list that includes re-education. Never seen anything like this in pro-sports, even with players have done much worse.

Glad to see some players and the NBA player's union having Kyrie's back.

Tsai is a pathetic owner and this could have all been avoided if he decided to handle this behind closed doors. This is some weird power move to try and humiliate Kyrie. Tsai couldn't do it with the vaccine fiasco, but now he found a reason.

Nobody in the United States of America should allow a man who profits off slave labor to preach any form of social justice.

This reminds when white America forced Tiger Woods to issue that fake apology after he cheated on his wife. People felt they were entitled for an apology for some reason... I just don't get why so many are deadset on forcing an apology.

In Kryie's case, it's just going to be an empty apology. Why do so many people want this? I guess it just makes some people feel strong to strong-arm someone into making one.

What a load of crap this is.

"A black man did something wrong and offensive that reflected terribly on his employer, and his non-black boss (who isn't white either, btw) wants Kyrie to demonstrate that he understands he was wrong and that he won't do it again. Must be RACISM."

No.

Kyrie was wrong. He did something bigoted. He then refused, multiple times and in a petulant manner, to admit he was wrong or to apologize. He didn't answer the phone or return calls or texts when his boss attempted to contact him. He then, only after he was suspended, issued a written apology. He didn't give a press conference, take any questions, or face the music in any manner whatsoever.

He's been a freaking disaster for this franchise since he arrived, and it's gotten a bit worse every year. And btw, they've paid him well over $100MM for the privilege of absorbing his BS.

Any boss would be good and fed up with an employee like Kyrie. And it has absolutely nothing to do with racism.

It's a weak and immature move to throw that accusation around in this situation.

Tsai isn't the one demonstrating low character here. It's Kyrie, just like always.

you do have a point, but in this case Kyrie did already apologize. I feel like Tsai wants Kyrie to get on his knees and beg for forgiveness which is overkill and it makes it seem like he's abusing his power. Kyrie didn't say anything racist out of his own mouth, and I get what he did was wrong by reposting that film but giving him a list of things to do after he already apologized , met with Tsai and Silver, and donated half a million and then say he still has work to do just to do his job is a little over the top IMO. You are right that if this was any other occupation, that person would be fired but fortunately this is the NBA and dudes can get away with alot more then regular society. And I also think it's hypocritical of Tsai not to denounce the wrongdoings in his own country as well.

[GTR11]

Looks like Isola wasn't just talking. Something is happening and Shams right there sniffing out.

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[sashaturiaf]

Separately: I think there is a real possibility that Kyrie could see himself, like he did last year, as some kind of brave crusader for truth and justice, and simply refuse to do anything close to what the Nets want. If that happens, this suspension could easily last half the season, and Isola could easily be right that he's played his last game for the Nets.

Here's hoping.

Difference is this is a contract year.

I think this is why Joe Tsai has come down so hard on Kyrie this time, he's gone all in and effectively said - Kyrie if you want to make any NBA dollars ever again then you come back and conform. If Kyrie keeps doing his Kyrie act, I think he's done with the Nets and the NBA as a whole.

This is a half year audition for Kyrie and the ball is in his court. It's best for the Net's interests and Kyrie's interest for Kyrie to just back down and play good soldier, but hey it's Kyrie so any outcome is possible.

[Riconet]

Difference is this is a contract year.

I think this is why Joe Tsai has come down so hard on Kyrie this time, he's gone all in and effectively said - Kyrie if you want to make any NBA dollars ever again then you come back and conform. If Kyrie keeps doing his Kyrie act, I think he's done with the Nets and the NBA as a whole.

This is a half year audition for Kyrie and the ball is in his court. It's best for the Net's interests and Kyrie's interest for Kyrie to just back down and play good soldier, but hey it's Kyrie so any outcome is possible.

I guess I don’t see what the contract year has to do with it. Kyrie isn’t auditioning for another stint with the Nets — there is zero possibility that the Nets give him another contract, and both he and the Nets know it.

At this point, Kyrie could become a rabbi, bring peace to the Middle East, develop a cure for Covid, make all-NBA and lead the Nets to a title in fo-fo-fo and the Nets would still be counting the minutes until his contract expired.

[NetsWorld]

Looks like Isola wasn't just talking. Something is happening and Shams right there sniffing out.

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Kyrie getting traded will be the domino effect of whether it's rebuild or retooling the roster. Not sure which way this is headed but to quiet frank, no pun intended to Isola, Kyrie served his five games and apologized, this is too much and it's getting ridiculous at this point. Either you trade him or bring him back.

[TheNetsFan]

Looks like Isola wasn't just talking. Something is happening and Shams right there sniffing out.

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Kyrie getting traded will be the domino effect of whether it's rebuild or retooling the roster. Not sure which way this is headed but to quiet frank, no pun intended to Isola, Kyrie served his five games and apologized, this is too much and it's getting ridiculous at this point. Either you trade him or bring him back.

I'm pretty sure that they are trying their hardest to trade him, but given they can't find anything of win-now value, they will wait to see if they can get a good package for KD.

Yes, he did apologize, but not until AFTER he was suspended. He had multiple opportunities to do so before he was suspended, and kept digging himself into a deeper hole. Because of that, the apology will appear disingenuous to most. The Nets owe Kyrie nothing. They must act in whatever way they believe is best for their team and more importantly, their brand. Nike says they're done with Kyrie for good. Why is it not ridiculous for them? Maybe two billion plus dollar corporations are justified in their distancing of themselves from Kyrie.

[MrDollarBills]

Surprised the are so many supporting this absurd list that includes re-education. Never seen anything like this in pro-sports, even with players have done much worse.

Glad to see some players and the NBA player's union having Kyrie's back.

Tsai is a pathetic owner and this could have all been avoided if he decided to handle this behind closed doors. This is some weird power move to try and humiliate Kyrie. Tsai couldn't do it with the vaccine fiasco, but now he found a reason.

Nobody in the United States of America should allow a man who profits off slave labor to preach any form of social justice.

This reminds when white America forced Tiger Woods to issue that fake apology after he cheated on his wife. People felt they were entitled for an apology for some reason... I just don't get why so many are deadset on forcing an apology.

In Kryie's case, it's just going to be an empty apology. Why do so many people want this? I guess it just makes some people feel strong to strong-arm someone into making one.

IMO, Tsai is most motivated by money, not power. He uses PR to massage potentially negative issues over so the impact to his revenue is affected as little as possible.

Before the league stepped in, Tsai only did the natural PR move of a public reprimand to distance himself and the organization from Kyrie's promotion of the film. Kyrie played the same day of the initial fallout and the day after. The organization even recused him from media time, just so he could keep playing and things could be kept normal.

Once the league got involved, I feel they told Tsai what they felt the punishment should be. Tsai is only "emboldened" to do what he's doing because he was given directives by the league and has their backing.

The Nets gave Kyrie every chance to pull back from the ledge and the idiot doubled down. The ppl trying to make this about Tsai and not Kyrie's behavior are disingenuous

[MrDollarBills]

Looks like Isola wasn't just talking. Something is happening and Shams right there sniffing out.

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Kyrie getting traded will be the domino effect of whether it's rebuild or retooling the roster. Not sure which way this is headed but to quiet frank, no pun intended to Isola, Kyrie served his five games and apologized, this is too much and it's getting ridiculous at this point. Either you trade him or bring him back.

I'm pretty sure that they are trying their hardest to trade him, but given they can't find anything of win-now value, they will wait to see if they can get a good package for KD.

Yes, he did apologize, but not until AFTER he was suspended. He had multiple opportunities to do so before he was suspended, and kept digging himself into a deeper hole. Because of that, the apology will appear disingenuous to most. The Nets owe Kyrie nothing. They must act in whatever way they believe is best for their team and more importantly, their brand. Nike says they're done with Kyrie for good. Why is it not ridiculous for them? Maybe two billion plus dollar corporations are justified in their distancing of themselves from Kyrie.

Of course ppl will view his "apology" as disingenuous, because it is. He showed his true colors when he doubled down and is now scrambling to save his dying career.

He should be done. I don't even care that KD needs help. Kyrie is not the answer on the court or off. He's a toxic narcissist that ruins everything he touches

[MrDollarBills]

Kyrie couldn't go three weeks without showing his ass and you guys are upset that he's not back yet? You do realize that he's going to just make things worse right? What more evidence do you guys need?

[NetsWorld]

Kyrie couldn't go three weeks without showing his ass and you guys are upset that he's not back yet? You do realize that he's going to just make things worse right? What more evidence do you guys need?

To clarify my post, it’s more about playing than anything else. But Isola pointed out he could be back soon playing for another team. But somehow, my gut tells me this whole experiment is over and the Nets are looking to get picks and assets. Rumor popped up that Philly is looking to get KD. Maxey would be a start; but we would need a plethora of picks. I am hoping we revisit the Boston or NO deal. I expect news to break on Kyrie this week, i think he’s gone and his post yesterday on Twitter is a hint

[Stannis]

Surprised the are so many supporting this absurd list that includes re-education. Never seen anything like this in pro-sports, even with players have done much worse.

Glad to see some players and the NBA player's union having Kyrie's back.

Tsai is a pathetic owner and this could have all been avoided if he decided to handle this behind closed doors. This is some weird power move to try and humiliate Kyrie. Tsai couldn't do it with the vaccine fiasco, but now he found a reason.

Nobody in the United States of America should allow a man who profits off slave labor to preach any form of social justice.

This reminds when white America forced Tiger Woods to issue that fake apology after he cheated on his wife. People felt they were entitled for an apology for some reason... I just don't get why so many are deadset on forcing an apology.

In Kryie's case, it's just going to be an empty apology. Why do so many people want this? I guess it just makes some people feel strong to strong-arm someone into making one.

IMO, Tsai is most motivated by money, not power. He uses PR to massage potentially negative issues over so the impact to his revenue is affected as little as possible.

Before the league stepped in, Tsai only did the natural PR move of a public reprimand to distance himself and the organization from Kyrie's promotion of the film. Kyrie played the same day of the initial fallout and the day after. The organization even recused him from media time, just so he could keep playing and things could be kept normal.

Once the league got involved, I feel they told Tsai what they felt the punishment should be. Tsai is only "emboldened" to do what he's doing because he was given directives by the league and has their backing.

The Nets gave Kyrie every chance to pull back from the ledge and the idiot doubled down. The ppl trying to make this about Tsai and not Kyrie's behavior are disingenuous

It's pretty clear at this point that Tsai wants Kyrie to get on his knees and beg. Basically, make a total ass out of himself and look like a clown. It's clear as day.

Which is fine. He's the owner. I guess he can do whatever he wants.

But Nike didn't like what Kyrie did, so they cut their ties with Kyrie. At this point, I don't know why Tsai doesn't do the same? Irving wants to continue to play ball. He's still in his prime. There's other teams that want him.

Maybe Tsai is shopping Irving around. Which makes what Tsai did even more dumb, because he basically killed Kyrie's value painting him as our generation's Louis Farrakhan. Now the Nets will hold out on deals because they think they aren't getting enough return? Not sure if that is what is currently happening, but it sure feels like it.

You have to question Tsai's intentions here. This is Kyrie's contract year. Tsai didn't do this when Irving was anti-vaxx. But he does it now. At this point, I'm not sure Tsai wants fair value return for Kyrie. I think he genuinely wants to ruin his chances of returning to the NBA.

He wants revenge and is acting in bad faith.

[TheNetsFan]

Kyrie couldn't go three weeks without showing his ass and you guys are upset that he's not back yet? You do realize that he's going to just make things worse right? What more evidence do you guys need?

To clarify my post, it’s more about playing than anything else. But Isola pointed out he could be back soon playing for another team. But somehow, my gut tells me this whole experiment is over and the Nets are looking to get picks and assets. Rumor popped up that Philly is looking to get KD. Maxey would be a start; but we would need a plethora of picks. I am hoping we revisit the Boston or NO deal. I expect news to break on Kyrie this week, i think he’s gone and his post yesterday on Twitter is a hint

Philly can try, but aside from Maxey, unprotecting the 2027 pick & offering their 2029, what do they have to offer that would be remotely interesting?

If they wanted to offer Harris (2 years left) for Kyrie (expiring), sure. I can't see any workable deal for KD though.

NOLA, Memphis, Cleveland, Phoenix, Boston are the teams with the most workable assets.

[MrDollarBills]

IMO, Tsai is most motivated by money, not power. He uses PR to massage potentially negative issues over so the impact to his revenue is affected as little as possible.

Before the league stepped in, Tsai only did the natural PR move of a public reprimand to distance himself and the organization from Kyrie's promotion of the film. Kyrie played the same day of the initial fallout and the day after. The organization even recused him from media time, just so he could keep playing and things could be kept normal.

Once the league got involved, I feel they told Tsai what they felt the punishment should be. Tsai is only "emboldened" to do what he's doing because he was given directives by the league and has their backing.

The Nets gave Kyrie every chance to pull back from the ledge and the idiot doubled down. The ppl trying to make this about Tsai and not Kyrie's behavior are disingenuous

It's pretty clear at this point that Tsai wants Kyrie to get on his knees and beg. Basically, make a total ass out of himself and look like a clown. It's clear as day.

Which is fine. He's the owner. I guess he can do whatever he wants.

But Nike didn't like what Kyrie did, so they cut their ties with Kyrie. At this point, I don't know why Tsai doesn't do the same? Irving wants to continue to play ball. He's still in his prime. There's other teams that want him.

Maybe Tsai is shopping Irving around. Which makes what Tsai did even more dumb, because he basically killed Kyrie's value painting him as our generation's Louis Farrakhan. Now the Nets will hold out on deals because they think they aren't getting enough return? Not sure if that is what is currently happening, but it sure feels like it.

You have to question Tsai's intentions here. This is Kyrie's contract year. Tsai didn't do this when Irving was anti-vaxx. But he does it now. At this point, I'm not sure Tsai wants fair value return for Kyrie. I think he genuinely wants to ruin his chances of returning to the NBA.

He wants revenge and is acting in bad faith.

I can't speak to that regarding Tsai. He spoke with Kyrie the other day and apparently he isn't convinced. Can't say i blame him.

All I know is that Kyrie is not the victim here. You bring up that Kyrie is in a contract year, well maybe Kyrie should have thought about that before lighting himself on fire.

And no, I don't think Kyrie is anywhere near as awful as Farrakhan. At least i would hope to God not because despite being an idiot i never found him to be hateful until this started.