Game 14: Utah Jazz (10-3) @ Washington Wizards (6-6)

[FJS]

Espn Jazz @ Wizards preview

[FJS]

INURY REPORT

WIZARDS

Player Position Updated Injury Injury Status
Bradley Beal SG Fri, Nov 11 Covid-19 Expected to be out until at least Nov 13
Taj Gibson C Thu, Nov 10 Neck Game Time Decision
Kristaps Porzingis C Thu, Nov 10 Groin Game Time Decision
Delon Wright SG Thu, Oct 27 Hamstring Expected to be out until at least Dec 14


JAZZ have none.

[FranchisePlayer]

INURY REPORT

WIZARDS

Player Position Updated Injury Injury Status
Bradley Beal SG Fri, Nov 11 Covid-19 Expected to be out until at least Nov 13
Taj Gibson C Thu, Nov 10 Neck Game Time Decision
Kristaps Porzingis C Thu, Nov 10 Groin Game Time Decision
Delon Wright SG Thu, Oct 27 Hamstring Expected to be out until at least Dec 14


JAZZ have none.

Amazing. Which is why we win.

[red4hf]

Must....Stop.....Kuzma......

[ForeverRDjazz]

crap refs... seen calls both sides blown. First play of the game guy elbowed jazz player across the head.

[red4hf]

The Jazz collapse has been crazy......

[Jiipee84]

The Jazz collapse has been crazy......

Yes that was hard collapse.
But unfortunately that wasn't surprise because it was all the time matter of time
when other teams will start scout Utah Jazz strenghts and taking those away and now it happened.

As good what Lauri has been last games
tonight Porzingis embarrassed him totally in defence taking easy rebounds and making easy dunks straight on Lauri's face.
Lauri has improved his scoring which is good but that rim protection, rebounding and shot blocking requires more improvement
if Lauri truly wants to be MIP award winner or even finalist and allstar because those limitations are now exposed.

And it is not getting any easier
next 2 games are vs retaining and defending champs Golden State and Philadelphia 76ers which is also into playoff hunt.
Lauri was tonight too much outside of the game hanging somewhere where ball never came etc
but that wasn't only Lauri's own fault because Wizards coaching were done their homeworks before the game
and they were scouted Lauri damn well so credit there where it belongs and that's wizards coaching.

Good news are those Jazz will have now 1 win less in their regular season record and that's good for draft tanking.
If / when it truly goes so Jazz lose more what they win they probably won't get TOP2 lottery pick
but TOP5 / TOP10 pick should be likely / possible.

And yes we all know that Ainge hasn't ever build team to lose or even tanking.
But lets be a realists.

The questions
so what's more likely is it
1 Utah Jazz goes to playoffs?
2 Utah Jazz drafts TOP10 range?
Think about this.

[Inigo Montoya]

A disappointing (?) loss. The defense wasn't good all game long and we lacked coordination and synchronicity on that end throughout the game and weren't able to address it or make adjustments that worked.

Still too much Clarkson hero-ball in the 4th quarter.

Markkanen wasn't involved enough in the first half on offense. But it's also on him to be more assertive and tonight he spent too many possessions in the first half just standing in the corner and remain uninvolved. He did step it up in the second half.

THT was very good. I like what he brings. He's still so young and there is plenty to work with.

All that said, the Wizards deserve props for playing well and solving the Jazz's defense all game long. This is one of those games where a lack of an interior defensive presence like Gobert's is felt.

Respect to Porzingis, he was very good and the Jazz couldn't stop him.

[FJS]

Well, 1st of all, kudos to the Wizards.

They won without KP and Beal vs Mavs 2 night ago.

Our main problem is we have to score more than 120 points to win, because other teams are scoring at us too much. But this is the league trend... you watch other teams and it's not much better.

Big difference of other games is we did not go to the line. 11 times. Our FG% weren't horrible at all. Worse than other time, but not bad at all.

As Iñigo said, Markkannen was missed in the 1st. And I think sometimes we should play Kessler more... yesterday he had the highest +/- of the team. Porzingis is not his best match to defend... but anyways, is fine to have something in the paint trying to stop easy layups.

[vryadli]

It is too early to tell, they are still on the learning curve and can improve, especially on defense, because it is difficult to tune team defense without real competitive games against different types of offenses.

But this loss can bite in the end of the season. It can cost them HCA.

Of course they are still the first in the West and still unbeaten at home. By the way, that is second feature of old Jazz - one of the biggest home/road difference.Last 2 years it was much smaller. (First feature resembling old Jazz is unexpected losses to bottom-feades, like to Rockets this year. )

[Jiipee84]

A disappointing (?) loss. The defense wasn't good all game long and we lacked coordination and synchronicity on that end throughout the game and weren't able to address it or make adjustments that worked.

Still too much Clarkson hero-ball in the 4th quarter.

Markkanen wasn't involved enough in the first half on offense. But it's also on him to be more assertive and tonight he spent too many possessions in the first half just standing in the corner and remain uninvolved. He did step it up in the second half.

THT was very good. I like what he brings. He's still so young and there is plenty to work with.

All that said, the Wizards deserve props for playing well and solving the Jazz's defense all game long. This is one of those games where a lack of an interior defensive presence like Gobert's is felt.

Respect to Porzingis, he was very good and the Jazz couldn't stop him.

That's totally true.
If Lauri has one annoying and bad habit it is that he is too much outside of the game and game situations.
Sometimes it looks that Lauri hasn't no clue what he should do and who he should guard.
Lauri's basketball IQ looks mediocre but it isn't bad or horrific.

And then that dunk what Porzingis posterized straight on Lauri's face when Lauri didn't box out KP.
Lauri cannot play like that if he truly wanna be an allstar and MIP award candidate.

Also it looked that all that media attention what Lauri has deservedly got made him a bit cocky.
So Jazz management should limit a bit all those interwievs what Lauri gives for press,

Lauri should keep his focus 150% in basketball and playing the games his best level
and not being some freaking interwiev automatic but unfortunately media is huge part of NBA action today
so it is nearly impossible to stop all interwievs.

[FranchisePlayer]

A disappointing (?) loss. The defense wasn't good all game long and we lacked coordination and synchronicity on that end throughout the game and weren't able to address it or make adjustments that worked.

Still too much Clarkson hero-ball in the 4th quarter.

Markkanen wasn't involved enough in the first half on offense. But it's also on him to be more assertive and tonight he spent too many possessions in the first half just standing in the corner and remain uninvolved. He did step it up in the second half.

THT was very good. I like what he brings. He's still so young and there is plenty to work with.

All that said, the Wizards deserve props for playing well and solving the Jazz's defense all game long. This is one of those games where a lack of an interior defensive presence like Gobert's is felt.

Respect to Porzingis, he was very good and the Jazz couldn't stop him.

That's totally true.
If Lauri has one annoying and bad habit it is that he is too much outside of the game and game situations.
Sometimes it looks that Lauri hasn't no clue what he should do and who he should guard.
Lauri's basketball IQ looks mediocre but it isn't bad or horrific.

And then that dunk what Porzingis posterized straight on Lauri's face when Lauri didn't box out KP.
Lauri cannot play like that if he truly wanna be an allstar and MIP award candidate.

Also it looked that all that media attention what Lauri has deservedly got made him a bit cocky.
So Jazz management should limit a bit all those interwievs what Lauri gives for press,

Lauri should keep his focus 150% in basketball and playing the games his best level
and not being some freaking interwiev automatic but unfortunately media is huge part of NBA action today
so it is nearly impossible to stop all interwievs.

Some unbelievable and speculative arguments there.

Never understood why you constantly try to dig ground under Markkanen, yet you're Finnish.

[Daddy 801]

My main takeaway is if Porzingis was ever attainable in a trade for a reasonable price I would highly consider grabbing him. Having a three man combination on Porzingis, Lauri, and Kelly would be a cool trio to see play off each other.

[Jiipee84]

A disappointing (?) loss. The defense wasn't good all game long and we lacked coordination and synchronicity on that end throughout the game and weren't able to address it or make adjustments that worked.

Still too much Clarkson hero-ball in the 4th quarter.

Markkanen wasn't involved enough in the first half on offense. But it's also on him to be more assertive and tonight he spent too many possessions in the first half just standing in the corner and remain uninvolved. He did step it up in the second half.

THT was very good. I like what he brings. He's still so young and there is plenty to work with.

All that said, the Wizards deserve props for playing well and solving the Jazz's defense all game long. This is one of those games where a lack of an interior defensive presence like Gobert's is felt.

Respect to Porzingis, he was very good and the Jazz couldn't stop him.

That's totally true.
If Lauri has one annoying and bad habit it is that he is too much outside of the game and game situations.
Sometimes it looks that Lauri hasn't no clue what he should do and who he should guard.
Lauri's basketball IQ looks mediocre but it isn't bad or horrific.

And then that dunk what Porzingis posterized straight on Lauri's face when Lauri didn't box out KP.
Lauri cannot play like that if he truly wanna be an allstar and MIP award candidate.

Also it looked that all that media attention what Lauri has deservedly got made him a bit cocky.
So Jazz management should limit a bit all those interwievs what Lauri gives for press,

Lauri should keep his focus 150% in basketball and playing the games his best level
and not being some freaking interwiev automatic but unfortunately media is huge part of NBA action today
so it is nearly impossible to stop all interwievs.

Some unbelievable and speculative arguments there.

Never understood why you constantly try to dig ground under Markkanen, yet you're Finnish.

My nationality and country hasn't NOTHING to do with that do i give **** for Lauri or not
Did you understand?

[Jiipee84]

My main takeaway is if Porzingis was ever attainable in a trade for a reasonable price I would highly consider grabbing him. Having a three man combination on Porzingis, Lauri, and Kelly would be a cool trio to see play off each other.

Porzingis is good player but i wouldn't like to see him Jazz jersey.
KP is has teared his ACL at least twice ( if i'm not mistaken ) so next serious knee injury probably ends his career.
So thanks but no thanks.

Kessler or somenone else should be Jazz future starting center if Vanderbilt is not staying.
But if you wanna see someone else Wizards player in Jazz jersey how about Daniel Gafford?
He played with Lauri in Bulls before he got traded to Wizards.

[Daddy 801]

My main takeaway is if Porzingis was ever attainable in a trade for a reasonable price I would highly consider grabbing him. Having a three man combination on Porzingis, Lauri, and Kelly would be a cool trio to see play off each other.

Porzingis is good player but i wouldn't like to see him Jazz jersey.
KP is has treared his ACL at least twice ( if i'm not mistaken ) so next serious knee injury probably ends his career.
So thanks but no thanks.

Kessler or somenone else should be Jazz future starting center if Vanderbilt is not staying.
But if you wanna see someone else Wizards player in Jazz jersey how about Daniel Gafford?
He played with Lauri in Bulls before he got traded to Wizards.

His injury concerns are why I said reasonable price. If we could get him and play him limited minutes and sit him on back to backs, it might be worth it.

Haven’t seen enough of Gafford to have an opinion. Don’t think there is a team in the NBA I have seen play less than the Wizards.

[Jiipee84]

My main takeaway is if Porzingis was ever attainable in a trade for a reasonable price I would highly consider grabbing him. Having a three man combination on Porzingis, Lauri, and Kelly would be a cool trio to see play off each other.

Porzingis is good player but i wouldn't like to see him Jazz jersey.
KP is has treared his ACL at least twice ( if i'm not mistaken ) so next serious knee injury probably ends his career.
So thanks but no thanks.

Kessler or somenone else should be Jazz future starting center if Vanderbilt is not staying.
But if you wanna see someone else Wizards player in Jazz jersey how about Daniel Gafford?
He played with Lauri in Bulls before he got traded to Wizards.

His injury concerns are why I said reasonable price. If we could get him and play him limited minutes and sit him on back to backs, it might be worth it.

Haven’t seen enough of Gafford to have an opinion. Don’t think there is a team in the NBA I have seen play less than the Wizards.

You have good points which clearly are valid.
KP and his experience for NBA games would be good add to Jazz locker-room but that injury history is worrisome.
And of course we don't know that how uncle Danny sees future Utah Jazz.

Even i have limited viewings for Gafford of his time in Bulls.
But in those games what i saw and Saturday's Wizards game Gafford played OK.

He's good shot-blocker and takes rebounds he also scores but not much.
Also he isn't blackhole by any means and he doesn't take much fouls like Vanderbilt or Olynyk.

But would he be good starting center for Utah i'm not sure of that but as a backup PF or C he should be fine.
And now back original topic and lets stop this off topic in here.
There are better threads to talk Jazz future.

[FranchisePlayer]

That's totally true.
If Lauri has one annoying and bad habit it is that he is too much outside of the game and game situations.
Sometimes it looks that Lauri hasn't no clue what he should do and who he should guard.
Lauri's basketball IQ looks mediocre but it isn't bad or horrific.

And then that dunk what Porzingis posterized straight on Lauri's face when Lauri didn't box out KP.
Lauri cannot play like that if he truly wanna be an allstar and MIP award candidate.

Also it looked that all that media attention what Lauri has deservedly got made him a bit cocky.
So Jazz management should limit a bit all those interwievs what Lauri gives for press,

Lauri should keep his focus 150% in basketball and playing the games his best level
and not being some freaking interwiev automatic but unfortunately media is huge part of NBA action today
so it is nearly impossible to stop all interwievs.

Some unbelievable and speculative arguments there.

Never understood why you constantly try to dig ground under Markkanen, yet you're Finnish.

My nationality and country hasn't NOTHING to do with that do i give **** for Lauri or not
Did you understand?

I understand better than you, from now till eternity but we can leave that undisputed fact aside for a moment.

Look, you are Finnish and follow Lauri to every forum where he plays. Everyone can see your post history here. You care jack squat about the team he plays for. You only care for the kid so you can do us all a favor and stop lying about it, ok.

And second, you cannot seriously believe that giving interviews after a dozen of games is the main culprit for him playing like he did against the Wizards?! You don't suppose it's because other teams have scouted how the Jazz play and have discovered Lauri is their go-to-player and thus are trying their best to prevent him from scoring?!

No, it's because giving too many interviews lately (for crying out loud)...