Would you trade Maxi for Markkanen?

[daoneandonly]

First 13games

Lauri 22.7-8.8-2.5
Maxi 4.9-4-0.9

It's time to open your eyes guys... Markaneen wanted to be here some years ago. We didn't want him. Good.

Problem is we had KP, and a KP Lauri front court cannot work. Maxi is still this team's most versatile defender.

KP-Maxi front court didn't seem works better

The mantra "take players who fits" failed like some of us said years ago.
We need talent, we can always trade talented players if they doesn't work.
Maxi Kleber has 0 trade value. Nobody wants him.

Zero trade value no one wants? Think u have him confused with the other 6-10 euro. But that one can't defend and still is injured even though he had months to recup

[41Dirk41]

Problem is we had KP, and a KP Lauri front court cannot work. Maxi is still this team's most versatile defender.

KP-Maxi front court didn't seem works better

The mantra "take players who fits" failed like some of us said years ago.
We need talent, we can always trade talented players if they doesn't work.
Maxi Kleber has 0 trade value. Nobody wants him.

Zero trade value no one wants? Think u have him confused with the other 6-10 euro. But that one can't defend and still is injured even though he had months to recup

Bertans? Yes, they probably have more or less the same trade value... 0

You continue to overestimate our players, Maxi is a 31yo averages 4+4 with a 3y/30M contract.... But ok, you didn't want trade him for Lauri so it's a useless speech.

[daoneandonly]

KP-Maxi front court didn't seem works better

The mantra "take players who fits" failed like some of us said years ago.
We need talent, we can always trade talented players if they doesn't work.
Maxi Kleber has 0 trade value. Nobody wants him.

Zero trade value no one wants? Think u have him confused with the other 6-10 euro. But that one can't defend and still is injured even though he had months to recup

Bertans? Yes, they probably have more or less the same trade value... 0

You continue to overestimate our players, Maxi is a 31yo averages 4+4 with a 3y/30M contract.... But ok, you didn't want trade him for Lauri so it's a useless speech.

Never said Maxi was great. But he's the only guy capable of defending bigger wings and can protect the rim, so he certainly has value. Bertans, THJ, McGee, they're utterly useless

[Darren]

Maxi's value is going to deteriorate. So is Bullock, Dinwiddle and so on who're approaching 30. This is the reality. The Mavs lack top-tier player. Not much 2nd-tier players. A lot of Powell. Truefully, Markkanen is better. You can't rely on Maxi long-term.

[Michaellam1987]

It is a no brainer for straight up trade Maxi for Markkanen, just UTAH will never agree to do this trade.

[Bob8]

It is a no brainer for straight up trade Maxi for Markkanen, just UTAH will never agree to do this trade.

Markkanen was available, wanted in Mavs and had relatively cheap price, when he was in Bulls. Sooner or later Mavs will need to start to build contender. Knowing that Mavs don't have any assets except future first round picks and players don't particularly like to go in Dallas, getting players like Markkanen would be a must. Or maybe someone really believes that Mavs will change the whole roster overnight with just great players? And you can always get something for players like Brunson and Markkanen, what is impossible to say for vast majority of Mavs players.

[41Dirk41]

It is a no brainer for straight up trade Maxi for Markkanen, just UTAH will never agree to do this trade.

Markkanen was available, wanted in Mavs and had relatively cheap price, when he was in Bulls. Sooner or later Mavs will need to start to build contender. Knowing that Mavs don't have any assets except future first round picks and players don't particularly like to go in Dallas, getting players like Markkanen would be a must. Or maybe someone really believes that Mavs will change the whole roster overnight with just great players? And you can always get something for players like Brunson and Markkanen, what is impossible to say for vast majority of Mavs players.

Excatly. Someone can say "ok, we had KP... They don't pairing well".
It doesn't matter, a player with talent will always have trade value.
Kleber worths a SRP. At max.
Bullock neither.
DFS maybe a late FRP.

[Darren]

It is a no brainer for straight up trade Maxi for Markkanen, just UTAH will never agree to do this trade.

Markkanen was available, wanted in Mavs and had relatively cheap price, when he was in Bulls. Sooner or later Mavs will need to start to build contender. Knowing that Mavs don't have any assets except future first round picks and players don't particularly like to go in Dallas, getting players like Markkanen would be a must. Or maybe someone really believes that Mavs will change the whole roster overnight with just great players? And you can always get something for players like Brunson and Markkanen, what is impossible to say for vast majority of Mavs players.

If Utah is willing to lower the offer, I'm interested in having Clarkson and Markkanen for a 1st with Powell (EXP), Bullock (EXP), Pinson (EXP) and fillers (McGee? Hardaway? Maxi?). I think the Mavs needs to create space in clutch moment.

I kinda like Clarkson as an iso-player, catch and shooter and clutch performer. I also like Markkanen's passion, energy and natural shooting instinct. I believe Markkanen can impact the game like Kuzma did for Washington. I think in a long run, the Mavs are better off playing Green and moving on from Bullock. I am one of few who thinks Ntilikina deserves PT as well.

This season, the Mavs corner threes are really poor. And the Mavs has to avoid burning out Luka early. DFS also struggles for some reason but still pass the eye test unlike Bullock. The Mavs defense in paint is also really bad for some reasons. Instead of relying on the SFs to guard the paint, the team needs a plan to force penetrator to a shot-blocker. Normally, you can't expect a 6-7 player who's guarding the paint very well.

[Mavrelous]

It is a no brainer for straight up trade Maxi for Markkanen, just UTAH will never agree to do this trade.

This thread was started when Markannen was RFA with the Bulls, he was traded for expiring DJJ and a heavily protected 1st in the end, Mavs offer was Powell, 25 1st and 2 2nds, but Bulls didn't want a 2 year contract, only expiring, and Mavs weren't willing to give up Maxi, and the team had KP back then, who overlaps a lot with Markannen.

[Michaellam1987]

It is a no brainer for straight up trade Maxi for Markkanen, just UTAH will never agree to do this trade.

Markkanen was available, wanted in Mavs and had relatively cheap price, when he was in Bulls. Sooner or later Mavs will need to start to build contender. Knowing that Mavs don't have any assets except future first round picks and players don't particularly like to go in Dallas, getting players like Markkanen would be a must. Or maybe someone really believes that Mavs will change the whole roster overnight with just great players? And you can always get something for players like Brunson and Markkanen, what is impossible to say for vast majority of Mavs players.

Excatly. Someone can say "ok, we had KP... They don't pairing well".
It doesn't matter, a player with talent will always have trade value.
Kleber worths a SRP. At max.
Bullock neither.
DFS maybe a late FRP.

100% agree. As long as you have chances to acquire a player, with reasonable contracts and reasonable stuff to give up for. It should always be a yes. Let's worry other thing such as whever fit to the team later. The concept is like drafting a rookie, you always go for the best talent first.

[41Dirk41]

I did zapping tonight with Utah game and Lauri was a beast again.

Only Cuban , Nico, daoneandonly and a blind man could think that Maxi Kleber was a better player... And he wanted to be here.
This is the most incredible bullsh*t made by a FO i've never seen.

[Maverick41]

If we had this Markannen, we would legitimately be contenders. That guy is the real deal.

[arkuo]

The FO has been a bad judge of talent for a while now. A lot of people they passed on turned out okay

[dirkules_41]

Right now I'd trade anyone but Luka and Wood for him

[Mavrelous]

2021 offseason was a mess, I wanted Markannen as FA and Hield to eat into cap space instead of paying THJ, Mavs had the cap space to pull it off.
I understand why Nico could go all in on Markannen when he was stuck with KP, but throwing away cap space for THJ was THE mistake, no getting KP from the Knicks which was a good gamble.

[arkuo]

2021 offseason was a mess, I wanted Markannen as FA and Hield to eat into cap space instead of paying THJ, Mavs had the cap space to pull it off.
I understand why Nico could go all in on Markannen when he was stuck with KP, but throwing away cap space for THJ was THE mistake, no getting KP from the Knicks which was a good gamble.

THJ was the saving grace for Cuban's ego when he missed out on Kyle Lowry. He came out openly and said Lowry was Plan A that summer. Had he signed Lowry to 25M per, he wouldn't even think of spending that much money on THJ. Mavs are just stuck with a backup plan of a backup plan, and trying to make it work at that. Too many trade and draft mistakes have buried the organization behind and they are playing catch up now.

[Mavrelous]

2021 offseason was a mess, I wanted Markannen as FA and Hield to eat into cap space instead of paying THJ, Mavs had the cap space to pull it off.
I understand why Nico could go all in on Markannen when he was stuck with KP, but throwing away cap space for THJ was THE mistake, no getting KP from the Knicks which was a good gamble.

THJ was the saving grace for Cuban's ego when he missed out on Kyle Lowry. He came out openly and said Lowry was Plan A that summer. Had he signed Lowry to 25M per, he wouldn't even think of spending that much money on THJ. Mavs are just stuck with a backup plan of a backup plan, and trying to make it work at that. Too many trade and draft mistakes have buried the organization behind and they are playing catch up now.

I was bizarre how things went down, I remember reading the negotiations were stuck, and Mavs gave up on extending him, 1-2 days later Shams/Woj reported the 75/4 contract, when the Markannen situation arised, Nico tried to trade Powell + 1st + 2 2nds for him, but Bulls didn't wat Powell extra year because of Lavine incoming supermax, this is when the question of trading Maxi for Markannen came up, because Maxi had team option, Markannen was left stranded with no bidders until CLE worked out the multi team trade with POR.
We, on this board wanted to re-sign THJ, but for 60/4 which would've left more than 20 millions of FA, Nico wanted Bullock also so he went the non-cap route, extended THJ and Boban, picked up WCS option, and used MLE on Bullock and BAE on Brown, who was another Kidd blunder in addition to McGee.

[daoneandonly]

Mods, are we going to let this same poster keep bumping old & tired threads?

Dude lives on realgm, must not have a job or a wife

[Apz]

I think its fine. Fun to read guys that nowadays complain about FO not trading for Markannen and such at the time didnt want to trade for him. Ofc it stings the agenda to bash FO and cuban, so understand some dont like that some threads getting necroed when it shows the truth about the boards opinions at the time.

[HMFFL]

The FO has been a bad judge of talent for a while now. A lot of people they passed on turned out okay

In the case of Markannen, I believe most knew the talent was there, but he is a system guy, and has had health concerns. However, your statement is accurate, because Cuban and the past didnt focus on young talent often.

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