2023 NBA Draft

[clyde21]

Brandon Miller nailing 3s right now

[Duke4life831]

Timme may never be a legit NBA guy. But the dude is so fun to watch at the college level.

[clyde21]

KG looks stupid good tonight

[crows2]

Game 2 performances:

Eye-opening:
Wilson 21-9-1-1-0
Love 25-9-6-2-1
Walker 21-8-2-2-0
George 23-5-7-3-0
Miles 26-5-5-1-0
Br Miller 20-8-3-2-1
Holmes II 20-7-3-1-5
T Smith 19-2-6-3-0
Murray 22-8-2-0-0
Keyontae Johnson 16-9-1-2-1
Bates 30-5-0-0-0

Decent:
Dick 12-6-3-1-0
Kaluma 12-6-0-0-0
D Mitchell 10-12-0-0-1
Hunter 10-7-3-0-0
Hood-Schifino 8-5-8-2-0
Bagley 12-4-1-0-0
Howard 9-3-4-1-2
Strawther 13-9-1-1-1
Wallace 8-3-4-2-1
Onyenso 9-10-1-0-3
M Mitchell 13-7-3-1-0
Filipowski 15-10-2-2-1
Lively 4-2-0-1-2
Bailey 14-5-1-1-0
Bona 8-8-1-1-0
Black 10-6-0-2-1
Walsh 12-4-1-0-0
Brazile 8-8-1-1-1
Tubelis 17-8-0-2-0
Ware 4-5-0-0-2
Shannon 14-4-5-1-0
G Jackson 12-8-0-2-0
Taran Armstrong 11-6-4-2-1

Poor:
Sasser 7-2-5-2-0
Livingston 5-7-0-1-0
Proctor 3-4-3-1-0
Cleveland 5-3-0-1-0
Ingram 6-8-1-0-2

DNP:
Whitehead
N Smith Jr
Whitmore
Phillips (team plays 14/11)
Collins
Ba Miller

[GimmeDat]

I think it's safe to say Proctor isn't a serious draft prospect for this year. Looks like he has a long ways to go at the moment.

looks rough right now but I have some confidence he'll turn it around soon

but yea, not a good start for him.

Ya to be clear I don’t think he’s going to look this rough all year long. Just with how much work it appears he needs, then with Dariq returning any day now. Going to be hard for him to make a big impact. Maybe coming off the bench and having a more limited role may help him to adjust.

I'm pretty surprised he's come out this quiet, especially after the pre-season hype. I've watched enough of him at other levels that I'm still confident in his long term outlook, but two invisible opening games definitely bodes poorly for his ability to have a one and done level season.

[Saints14]

Is Jalen Pickett still on the draft radar? He's pretty old at this point but I think he's gonna have a big year

[DowNY]

23/8/2 for Jarace

hard to come up with a comp for this guy, which makes him a nightmare to scout for me

2020 Julius Randle with defense

[DowNY]

Hopefully Nick Smith doesn’t play too much , so his stock can slip a bit. Lol

Word around scout land, not everyone sold on him anyway because his rim attack is floater reliant

[SeattleJazzFan]

Game 2 performances:

Eye-opening:
Wilson 21-9-1-1-0
Love 25-9-6-2-1
Walker 21-8-2-2-0
George 23-5-7-3-0
Miles 26-5-5-1-0
Br Miller 20-8-3-2-1
Holmes II 20-7-3-1-5
T Smith 19-2-6-3-0
Murray 22-8-2-0-0
Keyontae Johnson 16-9-1-2-1
Bates 30-5-0-0-0

Decent:
Dick 12-6-3-1-0
Kaluma 12-6-0-0-0
D Mitchell 10-12-0-0-1
Hunter 10-7-3-0-0
Hood-Schifino 8-5-8-2-0
Bagley 12-4-1-0-0
Howard 9-3-4-1-2
Strawther 13-9-1-1-1
Wallace 8-3-4-2-1
Onyenso 9-10-1-0-3
M Mitchell 13-7-3-1-0
Filipowski 15-10-2-2-1
Lively 4-2-0-1-2
Bailey 14-5-1-1-0
Bona 8-8-1-1-0
Black 10-6-0-2-1
Walsh 12-4-1-0-0
Brazile 8-8-1-1-1
Tubelis 17-8-0-2-0
Ware 4-5-0-0-2
Shannon 14-4-5-1-0
G Jackson 12-8-0-2-0
Taran Armstrong 11-6-4-2-1

Poor:
Sasser 7-2-5-2-0
Livingston 5-7-0-1-0
Proctor 3-4-3-1-0
Cleveland 5-3-0-1-0
Ingram 6-8-1-0-2

DNP:
Whitehead
N Smith Jr
Whitmore
Phillips (team plays 14/11)
Collins
Ba Miller

i would have included mj rice in the decent category - 10, 4 and 2 on 5-10 FGs in just 18 minutes.

[SeattleJazzFan]

brandon miller with a nice game - and he will be moving up draft boards as the season progresses.

this post aged well. as it will continue to do. the most slept on/underrated frosh prospect in the class.

[EMG518]

Anyone familiar with JJ Starling, freshman on Notre Dame?

[clyde21]

Jaylen Clark a name to keep an eye on

[BostonCouchGM]

Besides Victor and Scoot, there are a handful of NBA level athletes/physical specimens that distinguish themselves from the rest that I've seen so far. Walker, Mitchell and Bona in particular. I don't think the centers who are in the mix for the 1st round (Lively, Bona, Ware) are going to get showcased like they hoped. Bona is particular lacks the guards to get him the ball in the PnR, which he runs great btw, and are either unwilling or unable to feed him in the post where he's shown to be capable of making moves and passing out of double teams. By the end of the season it won't matter as he's such a force. I can't see him falling out of the top 10 and he could go much higher.

There's a slew of really good wings in this class making it a really good draft class. Better than I initially thought and we haven't even seen Whitehead, Whitmore, and Smith yet. Jaylen Clark is older but has a really mature game. He had to bide his time behind vets but now that he's the man he's proving to be an NBA talent in the Duarte vein and he should be a first rounder. You have to appreciate guys who work on their games and put themselves in position to succeed.

[Hal14]

Anyone familiar with JJ Starling, freshman on Notre Dame?

Yes. Good player. A little bit of an undersized 2-guard - and somewhat of a similar skillset to Keyonte but Keyonte is better, obviously.

Starling has looked solid early on. Good scoring, kind of meh in terms of passing and defense. Low release on his shot, too. 

I've got him as a mid 2nd rounder at the moment, but he could move up..

[Hal14]

Besides Victor and Scoot, there are a handful of NBA level athletes/physical specimens that distinguish themselves from the rest that I've seen so far. Walker, Mitchell and Bona in particular. I don't think the centers who are in the mix for the 1st round (Lively, Bona, Ware) are going to get showcased like they hoped. Bona is particular lacks the guards to get him the ball in the PnR, which he runs great btw, and are either unwilling or unable to feed him in the post where he's shown to be capable of making moves and passing out of double teams. By the end of the season it won't matter as he's such a force. I can't see him falling out of the top 10 and he could go much higher.

There's a slew of really good wings in this class making it a really good draft class. Better than I initially thought and we haven't even seen Whitehead, Whitmore, and Smith yet. Jaylen Clark is older but has a really mature game. He had to bide his time behind vets but now that he's the man he's proving to be an NBA talent in the Duarte vein and he should be a first rounder. You have to appreciate guys who work on their games and put themselves in position to succeed.

Mark or Dillon?

[SeattleJazzFan]

Jarace Walker, after a very nice performance a couple nights ago laid a total egg last night.

[The-Power]

I'm not sure why people have him so low. He's going to be a heck of a scorer, and he is big. I have him at 13 in my mock/big board but he has a good chance to move up, IMO.

Already pointed it out before the season that I really don't understand how Jett Howard was ranked so low. You look at a potentially elite shooter with excellent wing size, a good feel for the game and solid on-ball ability in a non-primary role. That just screams NBA. Yeah, ideally you'd want a bit more athleticism but no prospect has it all and his athleticism is functionally good enough to defend at a decent level.

Regarding Jarace Walker: that's an NBA body if I ever seen one. Insane. Also, despite shooting poorly in his first game I actually liked what I saw from him. I'm curious to see where it goes with him. His motor looked awesome (better than expected for me), he's a handful to handle for anyone and I believe in his shot being at least credible. But I hope his passing skills shine through a bit more going forward – that's going to be a key skill for him if he wants to be a top pick and he has shown flashes in HS. But I certainly see a path.

Victor Wembanyama, Scoot Henderson, Cam Whitmore, Jett Howard, Keyonte George, Dariq Whitehead, Brandon Miller, etc. – I'm really intrigued by the top of this draft class and curious to see who's going to set himself apart within that group.

[clyde21]

problem with Jarace is I just don't know what his role is in the NBA, I want him to scale as a big for me but I'm not sure he has the length or defensive juice in the paint to be that.

also just hard to find a comp for this guy, such a unique body/skill set. he's kinda like a bigger Zion I guess but not as good defensively in college and obviously not as explosive or generally as good.

[Duke4life831]

Im going to continue my soapbox speech from last year. College basketball needs to get a lot smarter with how they do the pre conference stuff. The regular season kicked off a week ago and tonight will be the first night two ranked teams play each other.

Get rid of all this waste when it comes to pre conference play. I think the addition of the Champions Classic was a smart move, but its about time they extend upon that.

What about a tourney of conference champions to start off the year. Get the Power 5 conference champions and another few random conference to have like a opening 2-3 game tournament. Then have these other tournaments after like the Maui Invitational and the other tournaments like that. Then have 2 Conference vs Conference stuff. Fill out the pre conference play with legit good match ups. Make opening night a legit event.

As a college basketball fan I feel like they're just wasting an easy opportunity to get people to tune into early college basketball. Then as someone who enjoys watching future draft prospects. You really cant take anything too serious when elite prospects are going up against teams like Mississippi Valley State, USC Upstate and so on.

Soapbox rant over. Ill probably bring it up again in a month after getting a taste of watching good teams play against each other then have back 2 back games against mid majors no one has ever heard of.

[Hal14]

problem with Jarace is I just don't know what his role is in the NBA, I want him to scale as a big for me but I'm not sure he has the length or defensive juice in the paint to be that.

also just hard to find a comp for this guy, such a unique body/skill set. he's kinda like a bigger Zion I guess but not as good defensively in college and obviously not as explosive or generally as good.

Not everybody needs a comp. Comps oversimplify prospects anyways. Jarace is clearly a 4. And if his team goes small, he can play some at the 5.

No need to overthink it. The guy is a physical freak, man child with good athleticism. 6'8" with a 7'2" wingspan, put up some monster numbers against some of the top prep school teams in the country and is now starting for arguably the best team in college basketball - these type of guys have a high success rate. Can lead the break, initiate offense, make good passes, can put it on the floor, strong finisher, can shoot it decently well. Has some moves off the dribble to create a shot. Good, switchable defender.