PG: Knicks + Denny's Grand Slam The Jazz

[thebuzzardman]

Sims is probably going to be a better pro then Mitch. Just as much bounce but he's bulkier.

He's probably smarter too

[thebuzzardman]

Unless Reddish wants to go to another team so he can get out of Barrett's shadow, the Knicks are gonna need to trade picks along with Fournier for an expiring (Eric Gordon) just so they can re-sign Reddish in the summer. I said it previously, but I am saying it again for emphasis!

There will be some team out there who will see Reddish's tools and will offer him a $15+m/yr contract to him, and offer him a starting SG or SF spot.

It might not matter how hard Grimes can work on his game, or his basketball IQ. He will never have Reddish's tools. Grimes will always just be 6'5. If we are lucky, Grimes might have a Courtney Lee type career, but even Courtney Lee was very athletic in his first few seasons. Grimes already has a foot problem.

Prove me wrong Grimes!

Knicks have Cam's rights and can go over the cap to sign him, unless they f*cked up that aspect of the trade, which I'll assume they didn't with Aller here, though maybe he got overridden by other members of the Knicks Central Committee Gang of Five

[thebuzzardman]

Fournier and RJ have been so terrible on defense that Thibs has, on like 4 occasions, rushed back an injured man in attempt to stem the offensive onslaught of another team.

Thibs out there coaching like he's Sam Houston defending the Alamo and Grimes like (the movie version at least) Davy Crockett.
Meanwhile, all sour fans can do is hate on valiant Thibs.
RJ is right, Knick fans are the worst!

[oldshoolballer]

RJ was abysmal shooting the rock tonight.

He needs to lock in the gym with the Shaolin monks and shoot for 7 years straight.

Obi Toppin
9 pts
3-4 3pt
6 reb
4 ast
+23

18 mins????? WTH ?? I demand justice for this malpractice!!

It has to be something personal. Obi has been lights out all season. It's beyond frustrating.

[Moose]

At this point, there's no reason to play Fournier or Rose.

Let IQ backup Brunson and see if Grimes can carve out backup 2/3.

We won't find a taker for Randle, but Toppin needs to have a chance to play 24+ minutes per game right now.

If that means 8 minutes on the court with Randle, then so be it.

[TheDavinciCHODE]

What is this team? This is just the weirdest "I don't even know who we are or what we're doing" team I've ever watched.

Even when we win...

RJ shoots 5/18 and doesn't his 3s.

Randle doesn't do too much. 5/11 only a couple of rebounds.

Quickly and Sims score well off the bench.

Obi goes 3/4 from 3 but still plays less than 20 mins.

We give up 43 3s but only take 32, but thankfully Clarkson was 3/11 and Connelly only 1/6.

We just win the weirdest games. I don't get it.

[cgmw]

At this point, there's no reason to play Fournier or Rose.

Let IQ backup Brunson and see if Grimes can carve out backup 2/3.

We won't find a taker for Randle, but Toppin needs to have a chance to play 24+ minutes per game right now.

If that means 8 minutes on the court with Randle, then so be it.

At no point. Nor was there any good reason to sign Randle (twice).

I mean who could have possibly believed it would be a losing strategy to sign non-difference maker veterans to a lottery team? Shocking.

Almost as shocking as the diehards who’ve watched every moment of this sh*tshow from the jump.

[PeteW]

Why the **** did Grimes get a DNP?

I can't stand this **** fossil

It must still be his foot. Foot injuries can be problematic, mostly for big men but you never know because the feet have a lot of small bones and tendons. Sometimes it's just genetic. I sure hope that's not the case. We certainly shouldn't be rushing him back.

So why was he dressed? I doubt it was bc of injury. Thibs is just a moron.

If he's not healthy enough to play he shouldn't dress. He's available to play. He should play. I'm the last one that wants to rush him back.

Yeah I dont think its an injury, he said he wanted to shorten the rotation, and Fournier/Grimes looks to be the casualty of that.

[cgmw]

RJ was abysmal shooting the rock tonight.

He needs to lock in the gym with the Shaolin monks and shoot for 7 years straight.

Obi Toppin
9 pts
3-4 3pt
6 reb
4 ast
+23

18 mins????? WTH ?? I demand justice for this malpractice!!

It has to be something personal. Obi has been lights out all season. It's beyond frustrating.

Thibs is a cockroach. And he works for an organization that rewards cockroaches. It’s exactly the same organizational coddling we saw with Carmelo, especially when Lin flashed crowd-favorite brilliance.

Thibs will coddle Randle because he believes the NBA is a star’s league and his only chance at survival is to have a star. Like it or not, our coach believes Julius Randle is his best player and he’ll continue to protect and ego coddle him, including intentionally limiting minutes and fan exposure for Obi, because he believes it’s his best chance at not getting fired.

[Iron Mantis]

RJ was abysmal shooting the rock tonight.

He needs to lock in the gym with the Shaolin monks and shoot for 7 years straight.

Obi Toppin
9 pts
3-4 3pt
6 reb
4 ast
+23

18 mins????? WTH ?? I demand justice for this malpractice!!

Did yall hear that RJ been sick for the past few games? I didn't know about that until Breen said it a few times. Why did we never hear about this days ago? Or did I miss it, def wasn't said during the broadcast the last few games

I said if Obi didn't play 25+ minutes this game Thibs shouldn't be allowed to leave Utah... **** terrible coach

I'd say we're lucky that Jazz played like **** but that would make us unlucky to win....

Some clown poster was trolling me when I inquired about if the organization wasn't telling us if something was going on with RJ's health.

The Knicks organization seem to like hiding stuff. Very secretive about everything these days. I don't like it.

[duetta]

If RJ has been sick, why is he playing?

We have this allegedly 'deep' roster - and RJ sucks to high heaven when not 100% (think the middle of last season). Why is he even playing if he is not 100%.

[3toheadmelo]

The Randle team meeting worked. They pulled together and got the win for him!

And they hate on Randle for being the true leader for this team!

[thebuzzardman]

Watched the 1st quarter and 1/2 the 2nd this AM.

You could trade Randle, RJ and Mitch and it wouldn't matter.

[thebuzzardman]

If the Knick were ever able to acquire a star player, this "star" wing, I wouldn't even want the following players on the team:

RJ
Randle
Mitch
Shart

Just let Brunson and whoever that guy would be do their thing.

Mitch is just a big waste of money at the his contract.
Shart is just a smaller waste of money.
Sims plus some random big drafted in the 20's would bring the same thing.

Randle and RJ just drag the team down with their sub par defense, stupid play, just not being anywhere remotely near the value of their paydays.

I was watching
Brunson
IQ
Cam
Obi
Sims

And the ball moved, there was spacing and effort and ability on defense.
Now, Mitch could theoretically stay and form a C rotation with Sims, and I thought Shart would offer enough defense plus additional looks on offense, but honestly, he kind of sucks.

RJ and Randle? Knicks should be so lucky as to find playoff teams with cap space that need that 7th man off the bench to contribute 20 mpg

[Iron Mantis]

Shortest PG thread in the forum's history?

[thebuzzardman]

In that 2nd quarter, as soon as Randle and RJ and Shart checked in, team started looking like crap, outside Brunson, Cam.

[TrueWarrior]

Our only hope: Team Cobi1 Cam0bi.

They’re playing how people thought they would when they were drafted top 10. Obi has now shot lights out for 2.5 months straight dating back to last season. His J is fast and fluid. While Cam has acclimated into the starting spot, and isnt pressing anymore now that he knows he’s going to play more than 15 mpg. Funny how that works huh.

Hope RJ and/or Grimes can join them. Ill give RJ a pass these last couple since hes sick, and they better just be being careful with Grimes because I want to see the dude out there asap.

IQ has woken up since those trade rumors came out lol. Keep it up bruh.

Sims is a such a damn freak. Zion like athlete. My only gripe with him is he doesnt seem to be a great rim protector, but he looks to be better on the perimeter than Mitch and Hart. Not sure how much potential he has, but hes a steal for the 58th pick and is an NBA player I know that.

Brunson may always be a liability on defense, but if he plays like this on offense it will be okay. Guy is a killer and very entertaining with those hesis and middies.

Hart has not taken advantage of Mitch being hurt unfortunately with all his foul trouble. Ive been a little let down by him in general. His jumper hasnt been there and his defense seems meh, but its still real early.

[DowNY]

Draft pick #15, here we come

[thebuzzardman]

Is RJ the worst starting wing in the NBA? He just might be.

[thebuzzardman]

Our only hope: Team Cobi1 Cam0bi.

They just look good. Everything they’re doing seems sustainable. Obi has now shot lights out for 2.5 months straight dating back to last season. His J is fast and fluid. While Cam has acclimated into the starting spot, and isnt pressing anymore now that he knows he’s going to play more than 15 mpg. Funny how that works huh.

Hope RJ and/or Grimes can join them. Ill give RJ a pass these last couple since hes sick, and hopefully they’re just being careful with Grimes.

IQ has woken up since those trade rumors came out lol. Keep it up bruh.

Sims is a such a damn freak. Zion like athlete. My only gripe with him is he doesnt seem to be a great rim protector, but he looks to be better on the perimeter than Mitch and Hart. Not sure how much potential he has, but hes a steal for the 58th pick and is an NBA player I know that.

Brunson may always be a liability on defense, but if he plays like this on offense it will be okay. Guy is a killer and very entertaining with those hesis and middies.

Hart has not taken advantage of Mitch being hurt unfortunately with all his foul trouble. Ive been a little let down by him in general. His jumper hasnt been there and his defense seems meh, but its still real early.

RJ should come off the bench for Grimes and Cam.
While the FO finds a trade partner.

Either start Randle at C or have him back up the 4/5.

Hartenstein should never start again.
Mitch or Simms starting would be tolerable if RJ or Randle aren't starting, since they might be of use without two super inefficient players on the floor. Even if you just started RJ or Randle, either Randle has to be the 5 or none of those C's can play, because again, RJ is so woeful at producing offense.

So, it's either start Randle at C or bench him.

Those are the logical things to do to have the Knicks resemble an NBA team.
Not a good NBA team mind you, just a different mid team.
Contracts, politics and Thibs get in the way
Oh, and fire Thibs.