Nets suspend Kyrie Irving at least five games without pay

[Saint Lazarus]

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Somes it up. Tsai n Co doing the most

fam I heard this same stuff when Bill Cosby got sent to jail for drugging and raping women. There's this idea among us that says well, if other powerful white men can get away murder, then so should powerful black men...and I find that to be asinine. No one should get away with anything. People should be held accountable for their actions. If you or I did what Kyrie did, our employers would fire us with just cause.

I understand Shannon's point, and in no way do I put what Kyrie did on the same level as Kanye who is just a disgusting, hate filled human being. But I don't see what is excessive about any of the things being asked of him. Most of the list can be handled before noon if Kyrie wanted to. He has plenty of free time.

Either way, none of this even comes to this had Kyrie apologized at that press conference instead of doing what he did. This is his own fault.

Also, again, Meyers Leonard, a white man, was immediately blacklisted for what he did. Kyrie is still being given a chance. I don't see where he's being unfairly punished or is some kind of victim.

Shannon's point is wack considering the last 4 owners to get ousted were all white. Sterling, Sarver, Jerry Richardson, and probably Snyder all sold their teams after they committed misconduct.

[MrDollarBills]

As if it wasn't clear that Kyrie leaked the list (since Shams broke the story), here's further evidence as the reporting is that the Nets have not confirmed the 6 part list. I know leaks are common now, but Kyrie publicizing it could have been some more gasoline added to the fire.

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Absolutely dysfunctional.

[JKiddy]

If were Kyrie and the Nets I would do the following:

Have a joint statement published showing Kyrie and The Nets are the furthest thing from Anti-Semitic and bring in the ADL and other Jewish leaders and celebrities to the table where Kyrie shows deep remorse for his actions.

Kyrie should apologize and acknowledge how hurtful and erroneous that book/film are. He has to own up to this and explain that the lies within that are 100% false and should never been posted on his IG. It was a mistake.

Have a press conference showing this united front.

Have Kyrie and the Nets match donations to organizations that help fight the misguided hatred of the Jewish people.

Make sure Kyrie has watched films showing how horrible the Holocaust was and how similar the hatred and misguided genocide and slavery of both his and the Jewish people are. He can then see why his words hurt so deeply.

If he comes to his senses and realizes how powerful his words are too many misguided young people then let him play. If he can do this by this weekend just let him play then and see what happens from there. I would also advise his handlers to not allow him to post without them seeing it (or get new people around him) so he does not cause any future pain without approval from a well-trusted, intelligent, logical thinking, level headed, all loving, older and more experienced adult.

He needs to be guided after this mistake. This was a call for help and he needs it. Can he be a pain? Yes. But, he has not been educated and is misled by these conspiracy videos. He needs to get off social media for a long while.

[Decipher]

Silver doesn't believe that Kyrie is an anti Semite & neither does Tsai so he's really being punished for posting inappropriate content at this point

What's an appropriate suspension for that offence?

[MrDollarBills]

Silver doesn't believe that Kyrie is an anti Semite & neither does Tsai so he's really being punished for posting inappropriate content at this point

What's an appropriate suspension for that offence?

He's playing on Sunday vs Memphis

[NetsWorld]

It really seems that Tsai and Marks are not content with rebuilding; this is the first sign they are all in on contending for a championship, whether we think it's realistic or not, but Marks has work to do here, he solved the wing issues, now it's time to solve the deficiency in the middle. We need a big that can both stretch the floor and dominate in the paint, Orlando has two or three bigs we can look to acquire. Harris fell off a cliff, I would send him there in a heartbeat for Bamba. As far as shooting goes, Carmelo is still on the market and we can strictly use him in catch and shoot situations, I think it can work. My personal opinion is Tsai wants to market Kyrie to LA so they can cave and give up Davis for him. You make that trade in your sleep; AD can still play at a high level and provides mid range shooting as well as rebounding.

[ArksNetsSince99]

If were Kyrie and the Nets I would do the following:

Have a joint statement published showing Kyrie and The Nets are the furthest thing from Anti-Semitic and bring in the ADL and other Jewish leaders and celebrities to the table where Kyrie shows deep remorse for his actions.

Kyrie should apologize and acknowledge how hurtful and erroneous that book/film are. He has to own up to this and explain that the lies within that are 100% false and should never been posted on his IG. It was a mistake.

Have a press conference showing this united front.

Have Kyrie and the Nets match donations to organizations that help fight the misguided hatred of the Jewish people.

Make sure Kyrie has watched films showing how horrible the Holocaust was and how similar the hatred and misguided genocide and slavery of both his and the Jewish people are. He can then see why his words hurt so deeply.

If he comes to his senses and realizes how powerful his words are too many misguided young people then let him play. If he can do this by this weekend just let him play then and see what happens from there. I would also advise his handlers to not allow him to post without them seeing it (or get new people around him) so he does not cause any future pain without approval from a well-trusted, intelligent, logical thinking, level headed, all loving, older and more experienced adult.

He needs to be guided after this mistake. This was a call for help and he needs it. Can he be a pain? Yes. But, he has not been educated and is misled by these conspiracy videos. He needs to get off social media for a long while.

Why stop there ?

Make him meet Romanian Gypsies Leaders as well -21.000 was killed in Auschwitz alone

Make him meet with Polish Leaders (70.000) non Jewish Poles killed in Auschwitz alone , and way way more in other concentration camps like Treblinka , Majdanek ( probably the ones not many ever heard of )

Make him meet with Russian Leaders ( 15.000 Soviet POWs killed in Auschwitz alone ) plus many more in different camps

And many more nationalities and ethnic groups of people , you see where I’m going ?

Where does this stop ? You want him to meet them all and apologize that humanity in 30-40s was at its lowest point ?

For what reason ? He never said he was antisemitic towards any race or ethnic group , where is the point in all of this ?

[Lachiebkn]

Can Irving run the point for us when he gets back? It would help us immensely if he could focus as much on getting others shots as himself. The offence gets a bit stagnant when ky and kd are just taking turns on offence.

[Gooner]

Can Irving run the point for us when he gets back? It would help us immensely if he could focus as much on getting others shots as himself. The offence gets a bit stagnant when ky and kd are just taking turns on offence.

I believe he can under a good coach.

[GTR11]

Can Irving run the point for us when he gets back? It would help us immensely if he could focus as much on getting others shots as himself. The offence gets a bit stagnant when ky and kd are just taking turns on offence.

I believe he can under a good coach.

Name me one coach that was able to talk sense into Kyrie.

[GTR11]

It really seems that Tsai and Marks are not content with rebuilding; this is the first sign they are all in on contending for a championship, whether we think it's realistic or not, but Marks has work to do here, he solved the wing issues, now it's time to solve the deficiency in the middle. We need a big that can both stretch the floor and dominate in the paint, Orlando has two or three bigs we can look to acquire. Harris fell off a cliff, I would send him there in a heartbeat for Bamba. As far as shooting goes, Carmelo is still on the market and we can strictly use him in catch and shoot situations, I think it can work. My personal opinion is Tsai wants to market Kyrie to LA so they can cave and give up Davis for him. You make that trade in your sleep; AD can still play at a high level and provides mid range shooting as well as rebounding.

I will rather kick tires on Isaac for cheap. He's redundant there. Shouldn't take much of our assets. Beside Nic I'll dangle entire roster if needed.

AD being available tells me LA Dr gave harsh verdict on his body condition. Big pass here.

[Rastas]

Can Irving run the point for us when he gets back? It would help us immensely if he could focus as much on getting others shots as himself. The offence gets a bit stagnant when ky and kd are just taking turns on offence.

Doubt it , you give too much ball to Kyrie and he will primarily Hero or Zero it.
And whilst he doing his thing the majority of the team stand around growing more and more frustrated.
Only Kev will be fine as even Kyrie knows Kev gets as many shots as he does.

[MrDollarBills]

It really seems that Tsai and Marks are not content with rebuilding; this is the first sign they are all in on contending for a championship, whether we think it's realistic or not, but Marks has work to do here, he solved the wing issues, now it's time to solve the deficiency in the middle. We need a big that can both stretch the floor and dominate in the paint, Orlando has two or three bigs we can look to acquire. Harris fell off a cliff, I would send him there in a heartbeat for Bamba. As far as shooting goes, Carmelo is still on the market and we can strictly use him in catch and shoot situations, I think it can work. My personal opinion is Tsai wants to market Kyrie to LA so they can cave and give up Davis for him. You make that trade in your sleep; AD can still play at a high level and provides mid range shooting as well as rebounding.

I will rather kick tires on Isaac for cheap. He's redundant there. Shouldn't take much of our assets. Beside Nic I'll dangle entire roster if needed.

AD being available tells me LA Dr gave harsh verdict on his body condition. Big pass here.

Been hearing the same that AD is cooked.

[TheNetsFan]

As it turned out, the redemptive arc that Tsai had imagined for his star had devolved into what the owner felt was a repetitive exercise in Irving's betrayal of good faith, sources said. For nearly a week, Tsai kept extending the clock to give Irving a chance to get this right for himself, the franchise and the Jewish community -- and Irving never returned a single of his text messages, sources said. Almost a week later, Irving had shown no inclination to deliver an apology, nor a disassociation of the movie's contents, nor a willingness to answer "No" when asked if he held antisemitic beliefs.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34948105/inside-high-wire-decision-suspend-brooklyn-nets-star-kyrie-irving

The article is 2 weeks old at this point, but somehow I missed this part. On one hand you want to "partner" with KD, the GM & owner, but then you ghost the owner after you caused a huge controversy?

[MrDollarBills]

Joe Tsai is delusional.

He needs to initiate buyout talks with Kyrie, and get on the phone with Golden State. Take all of their young players and picks for KD.

Trade Curry and Harris for picks to contenders. Time to blow this thing apart. I'd shop Simmons for pennies on the dollar.

Enough. This is a failure. Durant doesn't want to be here and Kyrie doesn't care about basketball.

[NetsWorld]

Joe Tsai is delusional.

He needs to initiate buyout talks with Kyrie, and get on the phone with Golden State. Take all of their young players and picks for KD.

Trade Curry and Harris for picks to contenders. Time to blow this thing apart. I'd shop Simmons for pennies on the dollar.

Enough. This is a failure. Durant doesn't want to be here and Kyrie doesn't care about basketball.

Warriors would regress because Curry and Thompson are not the same players they used to be; they would be the new Nets, but I don't mind. But the Warriors picks are not going to be good picks.

[Riconet]

Joe Tsai is delusional.

He needs to initiate buyout talks with Kyrie, and get on the phone with Golden State. Take all of their young players and picks for KD.

Trade Curry and Harris for picks to contenders. Time to blow this thing apart. I'd shop Simmons for pennies on the dollar.

Enough. This is a failure. Durant doesn't want to be here and Kyrie doesn't care about basketball.

I agree with much of this, but why do you think Tsai is delusional?

I think Tsai and Marks are fully aware that this team isn't going anywhere and that a rebuild is needed -- but they are going to take steps when doing so will be best for the Nets -- not when it's best for Kyrie and/or KD.

In Kyrie's case, that probably means getting him back on the court for 20 games or so and seeing if they can get anything for him -- not paying him 90% of his contract in a buyout so he can become a FA. And in KD's case, that means either trying to convince him to stick around for the rebuild or waiting to get a strong offer for him.

As for Simmons, he has negative value at present. I'd guess that they want to try to get him playing regularly and better, and then seeing if they can get anything for him, with the fallback plan being to pay someone to take him next summer.

[Jay555]

Joe Tsai is delusional.

He needs to initiate buyout talks with Kyrie, and get on the phone with Golden State. Take all of their young players and picks for KD.

Trade Curry and Harris for picks to contenders. Time to blow this thing apart. I'd shop Simmons for pennies on the dollar.

Enough. This is a failure. Durant doesn't want to be here and Kyrie doesn't care about basketball.

Warriors would regress because Curry and Thompson are not the same players they used to be; they would be the new Nets, but I don't mind. But the Warriors picks are not going to be good picks.

Curry still the same or only regressed a bit. Klay is for sure washed up.

[GTR11]

It really seems that Tsai and Marks are not content with rebuilding; this is the first sign they are all in on contending for a championship, whether we think it's realistic or not, but Marks has work to do here, he solved the wing issues, now it's time to solve the deficiency in the middle. We need a big that can both stretch the floor and dominate in the paint, Orlando has two or three bigs we can look to acquire. Harris fell off a cliff, I would send him there in a heartbeat for Bamba. As far as shooting goes, Carmelo is still on the market and we can strictly use him in catch and shoot situations, I think it can work. My personal opinion is Tsai wants to market Kyrie to LA so they can cave and give up Davis for him. You make that trade in your sleep; AD can still play at a high level and provides mid range shooting as well as rebounding.

I will rather kick tires on Isaac for cheap. He's redundant there. Shouldn't take much of our assets. Beside Nic I'll dangle entire roster if needed.

AD being available tells me LA Dr gave harsh verdict on his body condition. Big pass here.

Been hearing the same that AD is cooked.

Sean's competence taking hit big time. He failed to understand what this team ceiling was. Instead he doubled down on his mistake and seeing how big of a mistake it was/is.

Kyrie was fetching Russ expiring contract and two unprotected first round picks from Lakers, they guaranteed to be lottery bound. We going to lose Seth for nothing like we lost Dre too.

KD for JB and trash was as good as it gets. Now you have nothing and won't get anything better since Langdon and Masai just not stupid enough as Brad.

Nothing to be exited about right now, and it won't change anytime soon.

[TheNetsFan]

I will rather kick tires on Isaac for cheap. He's redundant there. Shouldn't take much of our assets. Beside Nic I'll dangle entire roster if needed.

AD being available tells me LA Dr gave harsh verdict on his body condition. Big pass here.

Been hearing the same that AD is cooked.

Sean's competence taking hit big time. He failed to understand what this team ceiling was. Instead he doubled down on his mistake and seeing how big of a mistake it was/is.

Kyrie was fetching Russ expiring contract and two unprotected first round picks from Lakers, they guaranteed to be lottery bound. We going to lose Seth for nothing like we lost Dre too.

KD for JB and trash was as good as it gets. Now you have nothing and won't get anything better since Langdon and Masai just not stupid enough as Brad.

Nothing to be exited about right now, and it won't change anytime soon.

You make a questionable assumption that Sean failed to understand the ceiling. When you make deals/decisions of that magnitude, the owner has to sign off on it. Given Tsai has burned through CEOs unable to fulfill his unrealistic goals of billion dollar per year revenues in the future & $500mil per year revenue within a couple years, it's unlikely he'd sign off on a rebuild that would torpedo those short term revenue goals. To his credit, Marks has lined up all contracts to expire by the 2024 offseason, with the exception of KD & Simmons. If we deal KD, don't be surprised if the majority returning salary similarly expires by 2024. I believe he knows a rebuild needs to happen, and he's willing to hit the reset button as soon as Tsai will allow it.