Packers News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - 2023 Off Season

[Treebeard]

If the season ended last night: who on the roster would you retain going into next season? Just existing roster players.

Just a quick glance without thinking too much:

QB: Love
RB: Jones/Dillon
WR: Watson/Lazard/Doubs/Toure
TE: Tonyan/Deguara
OL: Jenkins/Myers/Tom/Nijman/Runyan/Rhyan/Jones
DL: Clark/Wyatt/Slaton
LB: Gary/Enagbare/Garvin/Barnes/Walker/Campbell
CB: Alexander/Stokes/Douglas/Jean-Charles
S: Tariq Carpenter and Rudy Ford?

Depending on a few guys I could go either way on (Crosby, O'Donnell, Savage, Amos) I'd just prefer a hard reset and jettison all the veteran dead money you can while biting the bullet this offseason. I'd put Aaron Jones in that list but RB's don't really fetch great returns on the trade market anymore.

O'Donnell I could see retaining, thank Crosby for his years of good service and send him on the alumni bus junkets.

Are you thinking P Smith, J Reed, Bahktiari, Amos, Savage, M Lewis, Cobb as some combo of Cap casualty and performance removal? Rogers is a whole discussion unto itself.

[Ron Swanson]

If the season ended last night: who on the roster would you retain going into next season? Just existing roster players.

Just a quick glance without thinking too much:

QB: Love
RB: Jones/Dillon
WR: Watson/Lazard/Doubs/Toure
TE: Tonyan/Deguara
OL: Jenkins/Myers/Tom/Nijman/Runyan/Rhyan/Jones
DL: Clark/Wyatt/Slaton
LB: Gary/Enagbare/Garvin/Barnes/Walker/Campbell
CB: Alexander/Stokes/Douglas/Jean-Charles
S: Tariq Carpenter and Rudy Ford?

Depending on a few guys I could go either way on (Crosby, O'Donnell, Savage, Amos) I'd just prefer a hard reset and jettison all the veteran dead money you can while biting the bullet this offseason. I'd put Aaron Jones in that list but RB's don't really fetch great returns on the trade market anymore.

O'Donnell I could see retaining, thank Crosby for his years of good service and send him on the alumni bus junkets.

Are you thinking P Smith, J Reed, Bahktiari, Amos, Savage, M Lewis, Cobb as some combo of Cap casualty and performance removal? Rogers is a whole discussion unto itself.

Yep, I still think Amos is a really good player but it doesn't make much sense given he'll be 30 this offseason. Ditto with Preston.

[CWoodfan]

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Just like every other offseason, the Pack will set out to "fix" the defense without actually improving it much. This has become an annual rite of passage in Green Bay.

Coordinators, coaches, and players come and go and the defense remains the same flaccid unit we've all come to know and loathe over the past decade.

Gute will continue to throw high picks at the defense and it will be allowed to continue to fail until Mark Murphy rides off into the sunset 3 years from now.

Then, and only then, will hope for a legitimate championship level defense take hold among the faithful.

[LUKE23]

It's pretty incredible that we have thrown this many 1sts at the secondary and it still looks like the weakness of the defense. Granted, Savage and Stokes both look incredibly overrated. Jaire is great but I think he's cashed in on this season which is telling of his character, especially how much he runs his mouth.

[Matches Malone]

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[MickeyDavis]

The secondary has certainly sucked. So has the pass rush. Lack of pressure affects the coverage. We're 21st in sacks. The past 3 years we were 13,13,11.

Defensive scheme is also a big factor of course.

And yeah Jaire, quit yapping. Your play this season doesn't warrant it.

[LUKE23]

Watson on 28 targets:

18 receptions
243 yards
5 TD

Hopefully he keeps it going.

[Ron Swanson]

It's crazy how bad the pass rush looks without Gary. Really need him to come back fully healthy next season.

[Mags FTW]

The pieces on defense have changed, but the constant has been Barry. It is clear he must go.

[CWoodfan]

The pieces on defense have changed, but the constant has been Barry. It is clear he must go.

Yes Barry needs to go, the sooner the better.

But since the last time the Packers had a Super Bowl worthy defense, the defensive coordinators have already been changed, twice.

The players have all turned over.

The only constants are that Gutey has been in the Packer front office and Mark Murphy has been the team President during the past decade plus of poor defensive play.

Both Gutey and Murphy are hear through at least mid-2025.

[PintSizedBox10]

The pieces on defense have changed, but the constant has been Barry. It is clear he must go.

Barry has been DC for 28 games so I think you've got that backward there

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[WeekapaugGroove]

There's a greater than 0% chance the defenses problem is a voodoo curse. Rodgers should have his witch GF look into this.

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[Profound23]

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Yep, Savage is the exact type of player that will end up like Hyde if we let him go.

[tski1972]

Barry’s track record was well discussed when he was hired and most of us were correct in believing he was a poor choice.

Yay us?

[Treebeard]

Barry’s track record was well discussed when he was hired and most of us were correct in believing he was a poor choice.

Yay us?

Kinda points out the cronyism that pervades NFL coaching circles. Hire a mediocrity you know instead of making a modest risk, high reward hire for an up-and-commer. You see it over and over again.

[WeekapaugGroove]

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Yep, Savage is the exact type of player that will end up like Hyde if we let him go.

Yeah Hyde at CB was right up there with Amari at PR level of insanity.

Hayward, I don't know if it was really a wrong useage thing. He was good as a rookie then hurt pretty much the rest of his time in GB. In hindsight they should have kept him but I don't think they misread his ability they just didn't like his availability.

I guess savage could be a decent nickel somewhere but he might just not be good. Dude seems to hate contact and **** up a lot a bad combo for a defensive player.

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[DrWood]

2.5 games behind with 6 left to play. And 3 other teams between the packers and the final wildcard slot.
Not impossible, but pretty close. Certainly out of it with a loss next week. Probably can start the tank if SEA and SF both win this week.

[ReasonablySober]

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[MoMM]

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I hope we don't bring Amari back in a few years.

[tski1972]

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Thought maybe this was an Onion article.