Shaedon Sharpe Analysis

[BlazersBroncos]

Obviously he has a way to go but he looks more natural with the ball in his hand than Simons did as a rookie. Ant is the player I would likely dangle to get ourselves a front-court upgrade

Sharpe looks more natural doing just about everything that Simons does outside shooting volume 3's right now IMO. And thats 19 year old Sharpe vs going on 5th year in the league Simons. I dont think the talent is remotely comparable between the two.

Personally I want to keep both Hart and Sharpe, OG is great but I think Sharpe has more potential then him.

OG is great but I still see him as more of a role player than a top option guy. Grant is a better self creator and ballhandler than OG which says a bit about how much of a (elite) role player type skillset Anunoby has vs 'give him the ball to score' type.

Sharpe isnt just a lotto ticket at this point. He has shown immediate positive contributions with a sky high ceiling. I am shocked by how productive he has been. I wouldnt trade him for many players in the league, certainly not OG. I fully believe he could be a 20ppg scorer next season if given the opportunities, and do so efficiently.

I think eventually Ant should be out but the time isnt now - next offseason is when you move him and commit to Sharpe. Ideally after a strong season when his value is as high as it can get. Then cash him in for a forward or center upgrade and roll w/ Sharpe.

[52-12-7]

His athleticism and silky smooth jump shot reminds me of Vince Carter. I think he has all the skills and tools to be like VC and perhaps even better with the right attitude. I just wonder if he'll get enough opportunity in the current situation. Blazers have way too many guards, and GP II coming back will cut into his minutes. It's why I think it's best for Blazers to trade Simons to and let Sharpe loose. Not right away, but maybe in a year or two, just like how the Lakers traded an all-star Eddie Jones to make room for young Kobe.

[BlazersBroncos]

His athleticism and silky smooth jump shot reminds me of Vince Carter. I think he has all the skills and tools to be like VC and perhaps even better with the right attitude. I just wonder if he'll get enough opportunity in the current situation. Blazers have way too many guards, and GP II coming back will cut into his minutes. It's why I think it's best for Blazers to trade Simons to and let Sharpe loose. Not right away, but maybe in a year or two, just like how the Lakers traded an all-star Eddie Jones to make room for young Kobe.

Ya, I would be pretty shocked if in 1-2 offseasons moves were not made to accommodate Sharpe becoming a 32mpg+ guy.

[monopoman]

His athleticism and silky smooth jump shot reminds me of Vince Carter. I think he has all the skills and tools to be like VC and perhaps even better with the right attitude. I just wonder if he'll get enough opportunity in the current situation. Blazers have way too many guards, and GP II coming back will cut into his minutes. It's why I think it's best for Blazers to trade Simons to and let Sharpe loose. Not right away, but maybe in a year or two, just like how the Lakers traded an all-star Eddie Jones to make room for young Kobe.

I assume as the years pass he will get more of an opportunity, it will either be a thing where players are moved to generate minutes or he becomes so good he basically demands playing time.

There is no way they let a potential star like him rot on the bench because of other guys. Crap, it's his rookie season and even on this team that is winning a lot of games he is still getting minutes. Right now he is averaging 21 MPG and averaging 7.1 shots per game. Now this isn't a ton, but for a rookie on a winning team it's quite a bit. It's one thing when a guy like Sharpe gets drafted to a trash team and it's another when a guy like Sharpe gets drafted to a team with the best record in the West.

[Norm2953]

Team will eventually have to clear roster space but that's for another time after he's had an entire
rookie season and perhaps another summer league and fall camp. Teams will adjust their team's
schemes as they watch more videos of how Portland is playing

Right now with GP2 about to make his season debut, the coaching staff would prefer to see how
everything fits before the GM starts to pursue trades.

[monopoman]

Team will eventually have to clear roster space but that's for another time after he's had an entire
rookie season and perhaps another summer league and fall camp. Teams will adjust their team's
schemes as they watch more videos of how Portland is playing

Right now with GP2 about to make his season debut, the coaching staff would prefer to see how
everything fits before the GM starts to pursue trades.

Well even beyond that I bet if we make a move it's near the trade deadline. Cronin will have more of a feeling at what needs to be addressed with how this team looks near that time. Many teams are also much more active trading players in general at that time, especially for teams that are winning and looking to make an upgrade.

[zzaj]

The player that he's reminding me more and more of...maybe it's the quiet demeanor, IDK...Kawhi.

I am also in the trade Simons camp for an upgrade if it makes sense. Could it turn into a JO situation? Of course...but I also feel like the Blazers need to make the very most of the Lillard era. Considering they have a prospect like Sharpe in the mix, that makes it a little easier...

[FreshyFlames]

He needs to be unleashed. He's a star in the making. 20 points in 21 minutes on great efficiency. Shooting over 50% from 3 and the field for the season.

[BlazersBroncos]

He needs to be unleashed. He's a star in the making. 20 points in 21 minutes on great efficiency. Shooting over 50% from 3 and the field for the season.

Ya, its time to get him 28-30mpg. He isnt just a high ceiling youngster that needs minutes to develop, he needs more minutes because he contributes heavily to us winning games.

I believe that he is already a better player than Simons. I dont think its that close either.

[DaVoiceMaster]

The player that he's reminding me more and more of...maybe it's the quiet demeanor, IDK...Kawhi.

I am also in the trade Simons camp for an upgrade if it makes sense. Could it turn into a JO situation? Of course...but I also feel like the Blazers need to make the very most of the Lillard era. Considering they have a prospect like Sharpe in the mix, that makes it a little easier...

The difference being JO was still young and not developed so the Blazers got a decent return, but not great. Simons is developed and should return a much better player so I dont think it would end up being another JO situation. Is there a way to get Durant using Simons, without giving up Sharpe? If they sent Simons & Nurkic like someone suggested in another thread, along with Little and some picks & swaps, would that even get Brooklyn's attention? I dunno about that. Then what do the Blazers do about their center position.

[PDXKnight]

The player that he's reminding me more and more of...maybe it's the quiet demeanor, IDK...Kawhi.

I am also in the trade Simons camp for an upgrade if it makes sense. Could it turn into a JO situation? Of course...but I also feel like the Blazers need to make the very most of the Lillard era. Considering they have a prospect like Sharpe in the mix, that makes it a little easier...

The difference being JO was still young and not developed so the Blazers got a decent return, but not great. Simons is developed and should return a much better player so I dont think it would end up being another JO situation. Is there a way to get Durant using Simons, without giving up Sharpe? If they sent Simons & Nurkic like someone suggested in another thread, along with Little and some picks & swaps, would that even get Brooklyn's attention? I dunno about that. Then what do the Blazers do about their center position.

I think the most likely scenario is they'd request shaedon in any kd talks plus a boatload of picks and even then idk if we are remotely close.

Honestly due to roster composition I'd say grant + anf + picks would be the most ideal semi realistic package for Portland as jerami and kd are similar in may ways anyhow and that mitigates the issue of making money work.

But more realistically I think bkn would want a package of shaedon + Hart + nurk + firsts to even come to the negotiating table

[gbball]

I like him a lot. He'll be really good in a few years. I think I would still trade him and Hart for og though.

Interesting...As a raps fan and a Canadian. I thought I would say, I'd do this in a heartbeat, and I thought it was a no brainer when Shaedon dropped to 7 in the draft...and I wanted the Raps to pull the trigger.

But right now, trading OG with the way he's playing would be tough for me to do. Shaedon is a prospect that reminds me of a Tmac, VC hybrid. Which is crazy. I think he's going to be really, really good. Definitely on offense, his shot and athleticism look elite. I think he has a ton of upside as a creator and defender too...but we'll see where he lands there.

Right now, I think OG makes either team better and he still has a ton of upside. Also a very unique player and probably almost impossible to replace with his strength, post game, defense and 3pt shot making, also a burgeoning creator and shooter off the dribble. He legitimately has Kahwi-like upside if he continues to improve his self creation and if he can consistently hit shots off the dribble. So if the goal is to win now, OG is the better bet for either the Raps of the Blazers.

In 3-5 years though, if Shaedon is the 2nd coming of Prime Tmac, then that's a totally different story. Man he looks promising though. He's already really good basically coming straight from high school. Looks like a guy who just picks things up easily. I think I might still make the trade but it's not as much of a sure thing because of the way OG seems to be breaking out this year.

[gbball]

I like him a lot. He'll be really good in a few years. I think I would still trade him and Hart for og though.

Didn't the Raptors want that in the first place? I remember it was something like the 7th pick which at the time was an unknown player, Hart, and then some future draft pick. Now if Sharpe looks amazing that offer might come down a bit but at the time of the draft, the Blazers scoffed at the OG asking price.

Personally I want to keep both Hart and Sharpe, OG is great but I think Sharpe has more potential then him.

I agree with you, but it was Mathurin that the Raptors were enamored with. Also a great prospect, but I think I like Sharpe's upside more.

Whos to say that Portland would have only made the trade if Sharpe wasn't there. He might have been their guy all along, but maybe they didn't think he'd drop. That or the Raps just weren't as high on Sharpe as they were Mathurin.

Either way, as Raps fan, I've got another team to root for and you guys ended up with a good one.

[Norm2953]

I would caution being in a hurry to move the 22 year old Simons for his long term fits so much better with
Sharpe than the 32 year old Lillard. By the time Sharpe reaches his peak at age 25, Dame will be 37 and
certainly on his decline. Simons/Sharpe will certainly be the starting backcourt when Dame is 37. Dame at
that point will be a sixth man, instant offense role capable of being Dame for 18-20 mpg

I think the thing to do is add a second player with length up front and pair Dame/Ant and Sharpe out front.
I'd like that player to better than Grant, who appears to be one of those guys who has to score in order to
be effective and certainly isn't a rebounder.

[BlazersBroncos]

I would caution being in a hurry to move the 22 year old Simons for his long term fits so much better with
Sharpe than the 32 year old Lillard. By the time Sharpe reaches his peak at age 25, Dame will be 37 and
certainly on his decline. Simons/Sharpe will certainly be the starting backcourt when Dame is 37. Dame at
that point will be a sixth man, instant offense role capable of being Dame for 18-20 mpg

I think the thing to do is add a second player with length up front and pair Dame/Ant and Sharpe out front.
I'd like that player to better than Grant, who appears to be one of those guys who has to score in order to
be effective and certainly isn't a rebounder.

I just dont think Simons is a lead guard. I think he a pure SG that can get some dimes, but not a guy that can run a team like Dame. I think the guard who we pair long term with Sharpe isnt currently on this roster. But I am sorta down on Simons. Love the shot and volume from 3, dislike most other aspects of his game.

[Norm2953]

Dame however is 32 in 2022 and by the time Sharpe is at his physical peak at 25 (2028 season), Dame
will be 38 while Simons will be 29. Portland would have to tank to be in position to draft another PG.

I do think all these guys can play together. I'd worry more about getting the right front court pieces
for just imagine we had the Nurk of 2017 as our center.

[zzaj]

I would caution being in a hurry to move the 22 year old Simons for his long term fits so much better with
Sharpe than the 32 year old Lillard. By the time Sharpe reaches his peak at age 25, Dame will be 37 and
certainly on his decline. Simons/Sharpe will certainly be the starting backcourt when Dame is 37. Dame at
that point will be a sixth man, instant offense role capable of being Dame for 18-20 mpg

I think the thing to do is add a second player with length up front and pair Dame/Ant and Sharpe out front.
I'd like that player to better than Grant, who appears to be one of those guys who has to score in order to
be effective and certainly isn't a rebounder.

I just dont think Simons is a lead guard. I think he a pure SG that can get some dimes, but not a guy that can run a team like Dame. I think the guard who we pair long term with Sharpe isnt currently on this roster. But I am sorta down on Simons. Love the shot and volume from 3, dislike most other aspects of his game.

I agree with this...Simons doesn't play like a PG--running plays and setting up the team intangibles of a game. Lillard is right at the age now where we start to see PGs usually start to fall off a bit. So we'll see...

I've always thought players like Simons are best in the Microwave roll, off the bench.

[zzaj]

Also, PS...only about 10-12 more games until Lillard passes Clyde for most points in Blazer history!

[The Sebastian Express]

Simons as a microwave is ideal, yes, but he can't run the offense consistently or great. He has moments. And he tries - I want to say he tries most of the time, I'm not faulting his efforts. But it just doesn't seem to come naturally to him.

There's plenty of time to find another point guard who can run the offense. Simons is an amazing catch and shoot three point player.. but if we're talking about timelines, I don't think he's a PG and you don't weigh him next to Shaedon in terms of age matchup.

[Norm2953]

I worry less about who is the PG with Sharpe for these naturally gifted players usually have the ball
in their hands. That amazing catch and shoot 3 point shooter might just be the perfect fit next to
Sharpe.