2022 Season Thread

thesack12 · Post #361 » by **thesack12** » Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:57 pm

Dang, absolutely brutal for Verrett. That dude has been straight up snake bitten. If he has even moderate health throughout his career to be able to average like 12 games a season, he had the talent to be a perrenial top 5 CB.

Just terrible for him. He has worked so damn hard to come back from serious injuries several times. You can't help for feel bad for him, and root for him to somehow find a way to be able to put on an NFL uniform again. Torn achilles is arguably the worst injury in sports and he past 30 years old, and his body just seems fragile. So the odds are against him making *another* return, but he's the one guy you hope overcomes those odds.

As for what it means to the team, its obviously not good. Apparently the team was quite chipper all week and looked to have some pep in their step, but when Verrett went down it absolutely crushed the spirit of the team. So he was obviously a great locker room presence, which will be missed. On the field wise, I waa definitely looking forward to having him back out there, but I had tempered expectations. At worst, he would have been a capable body to plug in as a depth piece, but with his talent he had upside to be a solid CB2 opposite of Mooney. So it hurts, as now there are no more re-inforcements waiting in the wings @ CB. So Lenoir and Womack are going to have to step up. We can only hope Ambry Thomas never has to play a meaninful down @ CB because that guy is just flat out terrible. And each time he has been inserted in spot duty this season, the offense immediately targets him and has success.

No Verrett also means that Jimmie Ward is probably going to have to continue to play out of position at nickel corner, in which he has largely struggled in that role.

thesack12 · Post #362 » by **thesack12** » Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:02 pm

thesack12 wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:PFF ranks the Niners' receiving corps 5th in the league. Got to think Kittle ranks in the top-3 of TEs (in receiving; very arguably #1 all-around). The RB group has to be in the top-10 if not higher. Really no excuses for Shanahan throughout the end of the year. Particularly as McGlinchey is arguably the biggest liability on the OL, and we've had years to find out who McGlinchey is, and haven't taken any obvious steps to move on from him.

The receivers need to start with doing a better job of catching the ball.

9ers have 16 drops so far (4th most, despite being 19th in pass attempts). 49ers drop rate is 8.7% (2nd highest in the NFL, only the Jets are higher.)

To springboard on the drops issues...

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-45 expected points?

Yeah, they are going to need to clean that up.

Samurai · Post #363 » by **Samurai** » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:14 am

Womack's PFF grade this season is 71.4. That is far better than Lenoir (50.8), Ambry Thomas (47.1) and even Moseley (70.9) in his games before the injury. Charvarius Ward (78.5) is our only CB that is higher. With both Moseley and Verrett out for the year, shouldn't we be giving Womack some more run instead of Lenoir (and definitely Ambry) and the 3 safety look we've been using?

CrimsonCrew · Post #364 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:37 pm

Samurai wrote:Womack's PFF grade this season is 71.4. That is far better than Lenoir (50.8), Ambry Thomas (47.1) and even Moseley (70.9) in his games before the injury. Charvarius Ward (78.5) is our only CB that is higher. With both Moseley and Verrett out for the year, shouldn't we be giving Womack some more run instead of Lenoir (and definitely Ambry) and the 3 safety look we've been using?

It's been a real head-scratcher. Granted he hasn't played a ton, so a couple good plays could skew that grade, but Womack seems to have a nose for the ball and an instinct for making plays, which we don't have a ton of on defense. It would be hard to be much worse than Lenoir and Thomas.

Samurai · Post #365 » by **Samurai** » Mon Nov 14, 2022 7:01 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
Samurai wrote:Womack's PFF grade this season is 71.4. That is far better than Lenoir (50.8), Ambry Thomas (47.1) and even Moseley (70.9) in his games before the injury. Charvarius Ward (78.5) is our only CB that is higher. With both Moseley and Verrett out for the year, shouldn't we be giving Womack some more run instead of Lenoir (and definitely Ambry) and the 3 safety look we've been using?

It's been a real head-scratcher. Granted he hasn't played a ton, so a couple good plays could skew that grade, but Womack seems to have a nose for the ball and an instinct for making plays, which we don't have a ton of on defense. It would be hard to be much worse than Lenoir and Thomas.

To me, having a higher grade than Moseley in a very small sample size would seem to warrant more playing time to find out if the grade is close to legit or smoke and mirrors. When the options are Lenoir or Thomas, we don't have much to lose and a whole lot to gain. But I guess that seems consistent with the extremely conservative instincts of Shanahan.

thesack12 · Post #366 » by **thesack12** » Tue Nov 15, 2022 12:30 pm

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CrimsonCrew · Post #367 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:18 pm

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I find that DVOA very hard to believe. The Chargers allowed 37 against Seattle, 28 against Cleveland, 24 against Houston, 38 against Jacksonville, and 27 against the Chiefs. The only time they've held teams under 20 has been LV in week one (19), and Denver in week 6 (16). Both were home games for the Chargers (if you can consider any of their games home games). The Niners' offense was basically gifted three points at the end, so you're talking 19 points at home with this awesome collection of talent. Got to get better if we're going to make a serious run.

Though we were reminded last night that there are arguably no elite teams in the NFC this year. Everyone has plenty of weaknesses.

CrimsonCrew · Post #368 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:23 pm

Re: the run game, you're less likely to have success on an individual basis if you run the ball a lot. Teams will dedicate more defenders to the run game, and they will play run first and foremost. Not to mention that teams basically haven't had to defend more than 20 yards downfield. I think the run game is clearly effective, but it's probably not as dominant as some may suggest.

thesack12 · Post #369 » by **thesack12** » Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:13 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
thesack12 wrote:

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I find that DVOA very hard to believe. The Chargers allowed 37 against Seattle, 28 against Cleveland, 24 against Houston, 38 against Jacksonville, and 27 against the Chiefs. The only time they've held teams under 20 has been LV in week one (19), and Denver in week 6 (16). Both were home games for the Chargers (if you can consider any of their games home games). The Niners' offense was basically gifted three points at the end, so you're talking 19 points at home with this awesome collection of talent. Got to get better if we're going to make a serious run.

Though we were reminded last night that there are arguably no elite teams in the NFC this year. Everyone has plenty of weaknesses.

Its not just from Sunday night, its a cumulative from the last 3 games since CMC got to SF.

thesack12 · Post #370 » by **thesack12** » Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:34 pm

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I liked Dazz as a late round target in last year's draft, so I dig the pickup. Probably won't amount to much of anything, but its the type of practice squad signing that makes sense. He has a similar profile and skillset as Ray Ray.

You hope he doesn't ever have to see the active roster this season, but Eason has more upside than Benkert. Might end up competing with Purdy to backup Lance next season.

CrimsonCrew · Post #371 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:54 pm

thesack12 wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
thesack12 wrote:

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I find that DVOA very hard to believe. The Chargers allowed 37 against Seattle, 28 against Cleveland, 24 against Houston, 38 against Jacksonville, and 27 against the Chiefs. The only time they've held teams under 20 has been LV in week one (19), and Denver in week 6 (16). Both were home games for the Chargers (if you can consider any of their games home games). The Niners' offense was basically gifted three points at the end, so you're talking 19 points at home with this awesome collection of talent. Got to get better if we're going to make a serious run.

Though we were reminded last night that there are arguably no elite teams in the NFC this year. Everyone has plenty of weaknesses.

Its not just from Sunday night, its a cumulative from the last 3 games since CMC got to SF.

Yeah, I know. And maybe the Rams game skews the results. Still find it pretty hard to believe.

wco81 · Post #372 » by **wco81** » Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:33 pm

They may not have a top running game but Kyle's play calling is as if it's a top running game.

Now Kittle is just a glorified run blocker.

Someone suggested he's lost his burst.

wco81 · Post #373 » by **wco81** » Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:39 pm

Just watched the Cards on Hardknocks.

3 weeks ago, they pointed to their next 3 games as make or break for their season, the Seahawks (they lost), the Rams (they won) and the 49ers.

They said it's their playoffs.

Murray and Hopkins always give the 49ers problems. Offense is going to need to keep the ball away from them.

Samurai · Post #374 » by **Samurai** » Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:51 am

wco81 wrote:They may not have a top running game but Kyle's play calling is as if it's a top running game.

Now Kittle is just a glorified run blocker.

Someone suggested he's lost his burst.

Kittle had a groin injury earlier in the season so it isn't unreasonable to assume that his burst isn't what it used to be. And our offense can't run or pass without adequate blocking. Given that we have young, unproven guys in the middle of the line and McGlinchey's turnstile tendencies in pass-blocking, it may just be a bigger priority to have Kittle blocking since we have Deebo, Aiyuk, Jennings and CMC to catch those short and intermediate passes.

thesack12 · Post #375 » by **thesack12** » Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:35 pm

So Kyler is currently looking iffy for Monday night. I remember the 2nd game against them last year, feeling like the 9ers got a big break when it was announced Kyler wasn't playing. Yet, Colt McCoy went out and carved up the defense, so I'm not failling into that false sense of security again. There has also been whispers starting around that team, that Kyler should be benched in favor of McCoy. I'm not really buying that, but it does show that they are confident in Colt.

Also, today Hollywood Brown was designated to return from IR. He hasn't been activated yet, but there is some chatter that he might be able to suit up in Mexico.

CrimsonCrew · Post #376 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:34 pm

McCoy also day-to-day. Interesting. Prefer to beat a team at their best, but I'll take whatever I can get. It would be amazing if they were starting their third QB.

CrimsonCrew · Post #377 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:10 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:McCoy also day-to-day. Interesting. Prefer to beat a team at their best, but I'll take whatever I can get. It would be amazing if they were starting their third QB.

Both QBs practiced today. Unclear at this point if they were limited or participated in the whole session.

wco81 · Post #378 » by **wco81** » Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:11 am

McCoy lit up the 49ers last year.

If you watch Hard Knocks, which has a lot of footage from their game vs. the Rams, they were down 4 OL so they started a rookie 6th rounder opposite Donald but mostly doubled him.

McCoy got the ball out quick and he hit a big downfield pass against press coverage to Moore, again another quick release.

If they get any time for Hopkins to get downfield, that will be trouble.

CrimsonCrew · Post #379 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:22 pm

wco81 wrote:McCoy lit up the 49ers last year.

If you watch Hard Knocks, which has a lot of footage from their game vs. the Rams, they were down 4 OL so they started a rookie 6th rounder opposite Donald but mostly doubled him.

McCoy got the ball out quick and he hit a big downfield pass against press coverage to Moore, again another quick release.

If they get any time for Hopkins to get downfield, that will be trouble.

Yeah, this game is far from a gimme. Even down two starting OTs and both starting WRs, the Chargers had lots of missed opportunities against us. Herbert missed a couple potentially big throws, they had a couple drops. Reverse those, and there's a good chance we lose that game.

Jikkle · Post #380 » by **Jikkle** » Sat Nov 19, 2022 8:40 am

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Seems like the running game is there to be had but guys aren't executing their blocks properly so we're missing out on big running plays.

Definitely need to upgrade at Center this offseason as Brendal isn't cutting it. He isn't the only one but he seems like he has the most negative plays out of everyone.

I tend to give Burford a pass since he's a rookie and it seems like he does have the physical tools to play the position at a high level he just needs experience.